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Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 16:45
by northbankboy68
Everton 5th
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 10:46
by El Scorchio
threesixty wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 10:11
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 17:32
Andy Irvine back as his assistant. A few months he left things started to deteriorate undrr Moyes. IIRC Pearce left too soon after. Combine that with doing Sullivan’s bidding “I like a small squad” playing the same 14 players, not getting players in Jan windows then Sullivan’s half baked attempt at a DOF. Lots of obstacles removed and why Moyes is thriving again
He's not a terrible manager. What he does have is a terrible ego that needs specific people to check him on. Otherwise you eventually see a complete mess.
I think the interview with Mark Warbuton basically explained everything that went wrong. Then the Steven Bartlett interview with Moyes saying how he didnt rate the Argentinian World Cup winner Alvarez as even a backup option for Antonio (thats what we needed at the time) said everything about his unchecked ego. And the fact had no regrets over that decision was alarming.
The strange thing about Moyes is that he did well at Everton the first time because for some reason he could also pick a good unknown player. Shaha, Pienaar, Felani, Cahill etc.. he picked some really good players. I wonder if that skill has left him or he was let down by our board? Or did he have Irvine and others at Everton previously? Moyes really needs trusted people to curtail his ego.
Absolutely partly let down by Sullivan who just bought who he wanted half the time regardless of what C Moyes asked for. It’s clear several players at the club were not ones the manager wanted. Also it’s funny how there was transfer paralysis here for Moyes leading to ‘dithering Dave’ when he’s had no such at Everton and we still are. We did have a dithering Dave. Just the other one. It all leads back to the little dictator holding the purse strings.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 10:42
by Mad Ferret
fraser wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 10:26
XKhammer wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 10:22
Be careful what you wish for...just saying
Not me I'm happy he isn't here anymore, he went a year too late... We should have struck while the iron was hot. A massive missed opportunity.
He had us finishing in the top half and got us to a Euro quarter final in his final season.
You’d think he had us in a relegation battle.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 10:26
by fraser
XKhammer wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 10:22
Be careful what you wish for...just saying
Not me I'm happy he isn't here anymore, he went a year too late... We should have struck while the iron was hot. A massive missed opportunity.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 10:22
by XKhammer
Be careful what you wish for...just saying
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 10:11
by threesixty
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 17:32
Andy Irvine back as his assistant. A few months he left things started to deteriorate undrr Moyes. IIRC Pearce left too soon after. Combine that with doing Sullivan’s bidding “I like a small squad” playing the same 14 players, not getting players in Jan windows then Sullivan’s half baked attempt at a DOF. Lots of obstacles removed and why Moyes is thriving again
He's not a terrible manager. What he does have is a terrible ego that needs specific people to check him on. Otherwise you eventually see a complete mess.
I think the interview with Mark Warbuton basically explained everything that went wrong. Then the Steven Bartlett interview with Moyes saying how he didnt rate the Argentinian World Cup winner Alvarez as even a backup option for Antonio (thats what we needed at the time) said everything about his unchecked ego. And the fact had no regrets over that decision was alarming.
The strange thing about Moyes is that he did well at Everton the first time because for some reason he could also pick a good unknown player. Shaha, Pienaar, Felani, Cahill etc.. he picked some really good players. I wonder if that skill has left him or he was let down by our board? Or did he have Irvine and others at Everton previously? Moyes really needs trusted people to curtail his ego.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 10:06
by Fauxstralian
Think we are seeing the importance of Alan Irvine
All went to shit for Moyes when he left
Noticeable that he is back at Everton & was alongside Steve Clarke in getting Scotland to the World Cup
That said Everton did well to get Grealish & Dewsbury-Hall as they were exceptionally dull otherwise
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 09:03
by GBHammer63
May as well start a thread on Johnny Lyall, or Macari, just a ex manager, what Everton (and him) are doing is irrelevant to us.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 07:18
by Mad Dog
It won't last. He'll do what he always does and flog a team to death, piss off rhe squad and become so predictable it will be easy to nullify him
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 05:36
by Monsieur merde de cheval
An ambitious club with real intent would go balls deep for the Austrian at that two bob club over the river
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 05:20
by Monsieur merde de cheval
wils wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 22:52
It was time for him to go. Glad he's gone. But we have to admit seeing Everton up at 5th place will make everyone think we are a bunch of morons for wanting him out. No one is going to listen to our "But, but, but" as we explain our (what I think are good) reasons for wanting him gone.
So it's no good just shrugging and saying, "So?" We could do without this.
The board are the morons ...not the fans.
They are all business people apparently ...so should have done their due diligence and appointed a high calibre manager .
But no...it's always a 'name' with the cheapest option..
..in other words
on the dole and on the look out for a mug club to employ me on daft wages
Long live the memory of Deloris.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 05:01
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑07 Dec 2025, 00:03
What's with this Moyes obsession on here?
Fuck sake he went how long ago, yet time and again he gets bought up!
Like flogging a dead horse
.
He gets brought up every time he wins a match and climbs the table.
Never mentioned when he gets battered though
Re: Moyes
Posted: 07 Dec 2025, 00:03
by Sydney_Iron
What's with this Moyes obsession on here?
Fuck sake he went how long ago, yet time and again he gets bought up!
Like flogging a dead horse
.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 23:46
by Monsieur merde de cheval
He was 14th the other week, and will be again by the new year.
Everton are bang average ...at best..even we comfortably managed a draw .
Moyes is getting the best out of them TBF, but no way on gods earth are Everton a top six side...
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 22:52
by wils
It was time for him to go. Glad he's gone. But we have to admit seeing Everton up at 5th place will make everyone think we are a bunch of morons for wanting him out. No one is going to listen to our "But, but, but" as we explain our (what I think are good) reasons for wanting him gone.
So it's no good just shrugging and saying, "So?" We could do without this.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 18:51
by northbankfrank
Moyes was a stain on West Ham's history. In 4 years he only delivered 3 top half finishes, 3 European campaigns and a European trophy. Thankfully we've moved on from such woeful outcomes.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 18:41
by nychammer
It was becoming rotten under Moyes. There were some really dispiriting spankings that last season, but the real issue was Sullivan's choice of replacement. Its like he just needed someone cheap and unemployed, dosen't matter who or how they want to set us up just get someone else in to keep the fans quiet.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 18:34
by Tomshardware
They are 2 points off 12th.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 18:11
by Takashi Miike
5th in early december, yet we lost twenty games & conceded 74 goals in his final two seasons, permanently parking the fucking bus
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 17:53
by Mex Martillo
I agree Moyes was at his best with Irvine. I also like Pearce and Nolan. Glad Moyes is gone. I’d be ok with Irvine coming back.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 17:38
by Massive Attack
*Appears to have accidentally stepped in to EvertonOnline Forum by mistake*
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 17:37
by El Scorchio
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑06 Dec 2025, 17:32
Andy Irvine back as his assistant. A few months he left things started to deteriorate undrr Moyes. IIRC Pearce left too soon after. Combine that with doing Sullivan’s bidding “I like a small squad” playing the same 14 players, not getting players in Jan windows then Sullivan’s half baked attempt at a DOF. Lots of obstacles removed and why Moyes is thriving again
Exactly. Sullivan is the main reason no manager has ever properly succeeded here for any period of time. To add Moyes clearly had a complete short term view when he was here and things were absolutely falling apart in the last 18 months. He’s actually got a good squad at Everton as well. Far better than the one he left behind here.
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 17:33
by Sir Alf
Doh !!! alan Irvine
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 17:32
by Sir Alf
Andy Irvine back as his assistant. A few months he left things started to deteriorate undrr Moyes. IIRC Pearce left too soon after. Combine that with doing Sullivan’s bidding “I like a small squad” playing the same 14 players, not getting players in Jan windows then Sullivan’s half baked attempt at a DOF. Lots of obstacles removed and why Moyes is thriving again
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 17:28
by Maverick180180
Fair play to the saggy eyed fucker
in regards to us, Sullivan should be strung up and his corpse shat on
the issue with Moyes was it had long gone stale, boring to watch, results dried up and goals were conceded for fun
we wanted entertainment
so that cheap skate Welsh hobbit went out and hired every two bob cսnt who wouldn’t rectify what we wanted
what a waste of time and has sent us backwards, nothing to do with hindsight, this prick doesn’t care
Re: Moyes
Posted: 06 Dec 2025, 17:21
by Pub Bigot
So?
They won’t be there in May.
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