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Interesting:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... grx8ml7m0o

It's not going away, but at least we confirmed your idea is absolutely ludicrous.

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 21:09

threesixty wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 14:58

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 14:43 So if you get those calls right, you still lose them?

Therefore, if you challenge twice, and you get them both correct, lose your challenges, and there is an incorrect call in the 90th minute but you can't challenge it, and you still lose all the millions you're so
worried about, what then?

 

 

Yes a call you SUSPECT to be incorrect in the 90th cant be challenged because you've used up all your challenges.  At least it's better than going all game where you've lost 2 goals already because the ref is shit and you couldn't do anything about it at all. Which is what you are proposing by removing VAR altogether. And more importantly it's up to you as a team whether you challenge rather than a group of ref's that adhere to the big 6 clubs that won't even bother if it doesn't suit them. 

So you want an unfair system, to replace the current shit system?

A team could make 2 wrong 'calls', the other team 2 'right' calls, but they could still get fucked over, and in the end, it's still all just interpretation that could be wrong.

Absolutely fucking ridiculous, like most of your wacky ideas.

The whole thing needs scrapping.

 

only1billybonds wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 21:56 The whole system has to go apart from goal line technology. If up to 5 minutes are taken to reach a final decision then surely that can't be conclusive.
The introduction of the system was supposed to guarantee conclusively and if its faiiing in that area then it has to be binned.

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 11:39

SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: ↑13 Jan 2026, 21:32

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑13 Jan 2026, 17:58

There will be occasions when you're right up against the margin of error and it'll be a millimetre decision regardless. All you're doing is changing the problem slightly rather than solving it. If the margin is 5com, you'll still get occasions where it's 4.99cm or 5.01cm. Wherever you have to draw any line or border, not matter how thick, there will always be occasions when you're on it or over it.

 

No sorry, you're wrong. If the margin of error is a clearly stated 'x', there is no credibility at all in complaining, 'oh, yes he WAS offside but only by 'x' minus a tiny bit'. The complainer would be laughed at. Even now, the gripes against 'toes-length' offsides are no longer taken seriously.

 

Please explain how you envision your new VAR?

only1billybonds wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 21:56 The whole system has to go apart from goal line technology. If up to 5 minutes are taken to reach a final decision then surely that can't be conclusive.
The introduction of the system was supposed to guarantee conclusively and if its faiiing in that area then it has to be binned.

The whole system has to go apart from goal line technology. If up to 5 minutes are taken to reach a final decision then surely that can't be conclusive.
The introduction of the system was supposed to guarantee conclusively and if its faiiing in that area then it has to be binned.

Fauxstralian wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 21:20 DRS (cricket) & Hawkeye (tennis) work because they are decisions of fact … did the ball pitch outside leg or was it hitting the stumps … was the forehand hitting the line 
VAR & football has too many subjective decisions 
To maintain the immediacy of football I’d rather put up with a few errors by human refs
Even though we get raped by the Northern cunts discombobulated by traffic lights & paved roads when they come to London 

DRS (cricket) & Hawkeye (tennis) work because they are decisions of fact … did the ball pitch outside leg or was it hitting the stumps … was the forehand hitting the line 
VAR & football has too many subjective decisions 
To maintain the immediacy of football I’d rather put up with a few errors by human refs
Even though we get raped by the Northern cunts discombobulated by traffic lights & paved roads when they come to London 

Or... just fuck it off.

It’s shit refs on the field having their shit ref mate in VAR making shit decisions, the VAR ref doesn’t want to upset his mate on the field because next week it will be the other way round. Get independent people in the VAR who aren’t afraid of upsetting their mate on the field.

threesixty wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 14:58

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 14:43 So if you get those calls right, you still lose them?

Therefore, if you challenge twice, and you get them both correct, lose your challenges, and there is an incorrect call in the 90th minute but you can't challenge it, and you still lose all the millions you're so
worried about, what then?

 

 

Yes a call you SUSPECT to be incorrect in the 90th cant be challenged because you've used up all your challenges.  At least it's better than going all game where you've lost 2 goals already because the ref is shit and you couldn't do anything about it at all. Which is what you are proposing by removing VAR altogether. And more importantly it's up to you as a team whether you challenge rather than a group of ref's that adhere to the big 6 clubs that won't even bother if it doesn't suit them. 

Human nature and error is always going to be an issue when situations will always be interpreted subjectively. 1 man's handball is another man's arm in a 'natural silhouette position'. It's all a bollocks and it was always going to be.

The reason why I was so eager for limited technology to be introduced was for goal line technology because that was irrefutably conclusive but just as important is that it instantly works without delay to the normal rhythm of a Football match. 

All we've achieved now with regards to VAR is to open up a predictable pandoras box of so many variable outcomes and interpretations where it will always be a controversial way of refereeing a game. To rub salt in the wounds we also suffer greatly with how long it takes ruining all the whole instantaneous spectacle of the game which was what made Football so appealing as a spectator. The raw instant emotion of it all. Now it's like pulling teeth and why people loved the QPR Cup game because it reminded us of a time without all the nonsense of VAR. 

And this is the problem- not the tech but the implementation

Don’t see the difference between last night’s disallowed goal and Arsenal’s tonight. Love the consistency of VAR.

Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 14:59 If you need a micrometer to decide who is offside, then it's not football its mathematics.


 

If you need a micrometer to decide who is offside, then it's not football its mathematics.

 

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 14:43 So if you get those calls right, you still lose them?

Therefore, if you challenge twice, and you get them both correct, lose your challenges, and there is an incorrect call in the 90th minute but you can't challenge it, and you still lose all the millions you're so
worried about, what then?

  

So if you get those calls right, you still lose them?

Therefore, if you challenge twice, and you get them both correct, lose your challenges, and there is an incorrect call in the 90th minute but you can't challenge it, and you still lose all the millions you're so
worried about, what then?

Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 14:18 threesixty wants the possibility of there being potentially 10+ of them a game, coma, decided by the respective teams.

It needs scrapping. It's the best game in the world, bar none, why the fuck mess with it? It's made the game fundamentally worse, that can't even be questioned, those that have the misfortune of a bad heat of the moment decision just have to deal with it. We had to deal with the Brighton fiasco and 2 incorrect calls, we just had to wait 5 fucking minutes to find out, their fans were robbed of the elation. Load of old cսnt.

 

threesixty wants the possibility of there being potentially 10+ of them a game, coma, decided by the respective teams.

It needs scrapping. It's the best game in the world, bar none, why the fuck mess with it? It's made the game fundamentally worse, that can't even be questioned, those that have the misfortune of a bad heat of the moment decision just have to deal with it. We had to deal with the Brighton fiasco and 2 incorrect calls, we just had to wait 5 fucking minutes to find out, their fans were robbed of the elation. Load of old cսnt.

Five minutes to decide whether or not Haaland, who was offside but did not touch the ball, interfered with the play.

Problem is the huge inconsistency with interpretation.

onsideman wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 11:39 It wasn't even close to fractional. Everyone was so busy focusing on whether he was level with or behind the defender that they had ignored the fact that the keeper was ahead of them both. It couldn't have been clearer to me

RootsRadical wrote: ↑14 Jan 2026, 12:24 I didn't notice that.
Why didn't the commentators say anything, and why did VAR take so long to see it?

It's also entirely subjective what they do and don't choose to look at, if it's something the ref on the field hasn't blown for. This is the murkiest bit of it. They can conjour something almost out of nothing if they choose to.