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Thomas Tuchel might be availeble soon and I rate him even though it hasnt been rosey with Bayern... Over to you

"I'm sure if you check back to last season, then I was calling for Carrick at some point. I tipped him to do well this season with Boro. But, possibly for all the reasons given below, he hasn't done it with them. I just think if Palace are able to get someone like Glasner, then we can do a little bit better than a mid table Championship manager."

"Word is Bayern are working on a package to get Tuchel to stay. If he wins them the Champions League, they will throw silly money at him."

"Word is Bayern are working on a package to get Tuchel to stay. If he wins them the Champions League, they will throw silly money at him."

Rangnick has rejected Bayern

"But you get the point. I'm actually with Trunds on this one: I'd love for us to have Amorim as our next boss. He's a risk, like all appointments, but his track record is excellent. But I'm just saying that clubs too easily rule out Championship managers these days. Yet there is some talent - as well as some utter shite - in those lower divisions. I suspect Carrick might be one of them, but who knows?"

"Nobody told me there was a time limit, Shorty! ;-) Trunds said he couldn't think of any examples. I'm just saying he's a younger man than me if that's the case!"

How far back you want too go.? Human evolution has progressed a fair bit. Since some of them names were coaching.!

"Just off the top of my head, our own David Moyes did it (Preston to Everton), Martin O'Neill did it (Norwich to Leicester), John Gregory (Wycombe to Villa), Redknapp sort of did it (Bournemouth to West Ham - albeit via the assistant manager's role). There are more, I'm sure. Hoddle left Swindon the month he promoted them - and then went to Chelsea with some success. It's not a huge list - you're right (although they are niche parameters) and many of the examples are old. But that sort of proves the point: clubs have stopped fishing in that pond and instead are more likely to reach overseas. But the chances are, you're more likely to appoint a Frank De Boer than a Pep. I'm not professing that we appoint John Gregory, btw! Just to be clear. But he was doing well at Wycombe and, people forget, he led Villa to 5th place and an FA Cup Final in the Premier League. Before he defaulted to shit!"

Foreign. Domestic. Most fail. Who knows.? Maybe because only a percentage of clubs can succeed.! Maybe the question you are asking is why Foreign Managers/Coaches get picked before their home grown counterparts.? And no two. You can keep that charlatan Brenda.

Would you swap David Moyes for Brendan Rogers? Job swap.

"""But most foreign managers do fail"" Agreed. But (again on the flip side) what Championship manager has moved to a Premier League club and didn't fail? All I'm asking for is one example where it's worked."

"southbankbornnbred 1:18 Thu May 2 You're all over the shop. Do you think Carrick will change his philosophy then if he comes to West Ham and doesn't think we've got the players to play his way? If we're just going to get a manager who's going to adapt to the players, and not come with his own ideas, why not just stick with the Dinosaur currently in charge? You went apoplectic when some on here suggested we get Postecoglu last season, because 'he hasn't managed in the Premier League', yet now you want Carrick. Spurs lost one of the best club strikers on the planet, and they're still battling for top 4 playing mostly electric football. Your biggest problem is you talk on here like you're the oracle, without ever actually making much sense. You don't give opinions, you speak as if everything you say is fact, yet you want 2 managers with completely different philosophies."

"But most foreign managers do fail (as do most British managers). For every Pep or Arsene, there are many more Frank De Boers. For every Ferguson, there are more Glenn Roeders. What I find interesting is that some foreign managers seem to bounce back sooner - such as Nuno at Forest (who has never pulled up any trees in England: just look at his days in Tottenham). Whereas people like Potter (who did a good job at Brighton) do not. Maybe one is being more selective than the other, granted?"

i'd love De Zerbi here.......... and i think we offer a good bridge between brighton and the real top clubs.

"southbankbornnbred 1:19 Thu May 2 ""Trunds - but that's an extremely distorted way of looking at it."" So is suggestion that a foreign manger might not be able to adapt to the Premier League because they haven't managed here before. They've been the most successful."

I swear I read De Zerbi wants out at Brighton this morning because they can’t match his ambition.

"Howe got his side promoted, kept them there, and then moved on to a bigger club and has done a good job amid preposterous expectations. It can be done. It has been done."

"Trunds - but that's an extremely distorted way of looking at it. Because you are, by definition, excluding some of the most successful Championship managers: those who got their teams promoted."

"Eerie, Frank has openly said he plays the style that he thinks gives them the best chance of staying in the Premier League. When he got Brentford promoted, they played a shorter game - because compared with the rest of the Championship they had some better technical players. He changed that when they got to the Premier League and couldn't sign the technical players he would like (all eaten up by bigger clubs). Some sides and managers play that way out of necessity. I think he's capable of playing a neater, shorter high tempo game that our fans would enjoy. Klopp rates him. He wouldn't be my first choice, though."

"Those moved to the Premier League with their clubs they were originally managing. I'm asking who was the last manager to move jobs from a Championship team to a Premier League team and made a success of it? Not trying to be difficult, but there isn't a wealth of them."

"Eddie Howe and Thomas Frank, Trunds. If Bruce is (rightly) on your list, then Howe and Frank have to be, surely? There are some good managers in the Championship - as with other leagues around Europe. My broader point is that they tend to get a look-in only after most Premier League sides have exhausted their search around Europe - including some pretty weak leagues."

"So you're calling for Carrick, because he plays possession based attacking football who it is hoped will bring through the youth players at the club, or Frank, who plays a completely different style of football, he's a long ball counter attacking merchant, with from what I can tell no real experience of bringing youth players through at Brentford? Chuck a couple more darts at the board."

"On the flip side of that, Nagal, when was the last time a Championship manager moved to a Premier league club, and made a success of it? As I said below, the last few managers who have made that step up are Chris Wilder, Nathan Jones, Steve Bruce and Frank Lampard."

"On the flip side of that, Nagal, when was the last time a Championship manager moved to a Premier league club, and made a success of it? As I said below, the last few managers who have made that step up are Chris Wilder, Nathan Jones, Steve Bruce and Frank Lampard."

One thing with Amorim though is that his whole playing and management career have been in Portugal. He might know that league inside out but can he adapt to an entirely different one? That's why people who've proved themselves in the PL get a good reputation. Fonseca might not have done the PL but he has proved himself in 4 different countries already.