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"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

BRANDED 3:07 Wed Jan 15 Sorry I thought you were worried about the 1920's ... :-)

Jasnik 3:10 Wed Jan 15 Re: Anxiety/depression I don't worry about the past as far as I know but point it out if I do. I tend to live in the present for most things except investing which requires betting on future outcomes based upon historical data. It makes you focussed on what might effect change in investors minds or in a shifting economy.

Newspapers were available everywhere back then with a lot supporting the left and unions. Check the film out This Happy Breed. Its about an ordinary working class family living in Clapham between 1920 and 1940. Life is much better for women now and might be considered less good for men because their position and purpose has shifted quite a bit.

Branded does that mean your depressed and not an anxious as you seem to be worrying about the past. Anxiety is worrying about the future. Depression is worrying about the past.

"Branded missing the point shocker. I meant in terms of technology, you tit."

"Branded missing the point shocker. I meant in terms of technology, you tit."

"In the 1920s there was mass unemployment and great poverty, the national strike and a ""huge fear"" the UK would go communist. There were slums everywhere and people still died of bacterial diseases."

"Branded, turn on social media, you get negative shit posted. Turn on the radio, you hear people slagging each other off critisising anything and everything. Turn on the news, you always hear about something or other which is negative. It's very difficult to avoid now days, unless you want to go back to living in the 1920's"

"It’s fundamentally to do with how you are wired, and how you interpret the various messages that your brain receives Once again, you explain things so much better than I do, this is what I was trying to explain."

"In theory you can escape from World news or, just search good news. There are plenty of places for good news https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org However, I'm with Griff. Some people have a propensity towards these issues and those people need to find more active solutions to their condition. I had an employee who was always miserable. He always attracted the wrong type of girlfriend and saw negativity in everything. a few years later I heard he had taken his own life. It was mostly about women with him but it came out as constant miserableness. I have a mate who was in a successful pop band. He is wealthy and has a beautiful wife but is constantly anxious. He's currently converting to being a Buddhist monk. My brother in law is well off and successful and says all he cares about is a warm house because his house was always cold when he was a kid. He also cares about theoretical physics too but doesn't bother too many with that, just the heating."

"I think the negativity of media stories added to the fake ""look at how successful and what a great time I'm having #LivingMyBestLife"" disposable, instant-gratification Instagram culture we've created has really fucked a lot of people up."

"Going by Maslow, as our basic needs of food, water, shelter, not getting shot etc. are a given, we move on to wanting (and worrying) about more esoteric and less readily-achievable things - things that generally don't cause physical ill if you don't get them."

"My understanding of how we got to this point in the discussion is that Block said (words to the effect) that modern life is more stress/anxiety producing. I queried this, because we are demonstrably more wealthy, safe, healthy and entertained than any previous generation, and Block countered by saying (in so many words) all these modern benefits are negated because of saturation coverage of upsetting world news."

Dandy Lyon 11:09 Wed Jan 15 I do believe depression and anxiety are for the week minded. ============================================== Oh the irony.

"You are both making assumptions and you are probably both right. 'Negative' media in itself may not cause/deepen depression and associated anxiety but if you engage with that media emotionally then maybe it can? The same with social media. I have times when I am off social media and don't even watch the news because I find myself engaging emotionally with it and it harms me. Other times it doesn't. I take the best approach to me and where I am in my BP cycle. So Nursey and Blocky, you are both right! Not that is any way tolerated on WHO these days!"

"Fwiw, and there are varying schools of thought on this, but I’m not a believer that things/events LEAD TO or CAUSE depression (with the exception of PTSD, but that’s something different) It’s fundamentally to do with how you are wired, and how you interpret the various messages that your brain receives"

"Nurse, it doesn't take a genius to work out a constant barrage of negativity can lead to anxiety and depression. IT depends on the person, whether they take things too literally or have the capability to ignore the negativity. But to suggest it wouldn't have an impact is wrong. FWIW, those were the first few I found, There's plenty more articles around."

"Thanks for taking the time, Block. However... Two of those articles don't say what you want them to say. One of them provides no evidence for their assertion. The remaining one outlines in very basic terms a study that was conducted, but does not say how many participants, how strong the statistical analysis was, and doesn't provide a link to the full study. Maybe there is something in what you say, but this is a long way from proof. It makes more sense to me to think that if people are depressed, it's more likely to be as a result of relationships, events and circumstances that affect them directly."

Dogs are so much better than humans. This is an undeniable fact.

https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/your-stories/how-getting-a-dog-saved-my-life/#.Xh8GQuj7S70

* thumbs up *

Sure. Or a cat.

You missed out `Get a Dog' BRANDED son...??

"I like these descriptions: Anxiety is worrying about the future. Depression is worrying about the past. However, I understand the worrying gets out of control. Getting a grip is doing something. Unfortunately for some that is a catastrophic event so let me rephrase. You can go to a doctor. Get therapy. Use a mindfulness app. Do meditation. Take drugs relevant to your condition. avoid the things that might induce anxiety ( in my sisters case it was negative news amongst a dead end life plus recognising we live in the present) or research some other kind of solution that might work. All of it requires an action that relates directly to your condition."

Young lad … early 20’s killed himself a few years back… chucked himself out of the 15th floor in the building I work at… nasty business as his Mum and dad worked in the same building… he’d been trying to kill himself for years… found overdosed etc... always seemed ok and happy on the outside when I had seen him… but app’ told people for years that he was gonna end his life as he was just tired of living… people like that no matter what will not be helped… must have been fucking tough for his Mum and Dad to come back and work at this place.