West Ham Online

Posted: **09 Dec 2024, 09:19**

There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 13:18**

goose wrote: ↑04 Apr 2025, 06:54
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:22
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:16
“Could happen”
”Not gonna happen”

righto.

Yeah , not gonna happen is my opinion. I’m not a one trick pony. I listen to El Erian but have enough sense to realize he is not always right. He has an opinion and many others share a different opinion that’s what makes a market. Nobody knows with any certainty, let’s see what happens! Now I’m done arguing with you, go argue with someone else.

“Not gonna happen”
“Nobody knows with any certainty”

lol

just the $2trn wiped off yesterday (and counting)

The US Economy is built on a house of cards with a foundation of 30Trillion + National Debt. Prior Administrations have ignored this and spent funny money we don't actually have on programs that we don't need or to prop up a considerable number of people on benefits or just to provide an illusion that all is well. Prior administrations have let the rest of the world use the US as a Financial Doormat by taxing US Imports and just assuming we'll support wars without end.

I don't therefore get the objection when steps are taken to partially redress the balance. Don't forget the Tariffs are not even a full reciprocity! Fully agree we need to live within our means and reduce the size of government. As for the markets, they would have corrected eventually for one reason or another and they will come back. I hope that along with that comes the longer term prosperity that is being promised - who knows if that will eventually happen - but we have no choice but to hope that the outcome is good.

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 12:48**

Yank owned company that Mrs V works for (no link, site, dogs etc) is being floated this month and they were all given shares which were projected to be worth about 14 grand...today they are worth about the price of a night out in Wetherspoons

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 11:55**

Breaking

China has just said it will add a 34% tariff on US goods starting from 10 April.
Its finance ministry says the US tariffs on Chinese products are "not in line with international trade rules".US President Donald Trump has announced 54% tariffs on China, which include previous duties already in place. That makes China one of the hardest-hit countries on America's tariff list.

oh dear, good job the US doesn't have a trade deficit of near £300bn with China..............

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 10:42**

this made me chuckle:

Some Canadians may be angry about Trump's policy, but others are finding it amusing.
One of the targets of Trump’s tariffs is Norfolk Island – a tiny Australian territory with about 2,200 residents.
The island’s been hit with a 29% tariff.

Locals say the economy relies on tourism and they don’t export anything to the US – so the tariff has become something of a running joke. “Everyone's laughing about it,” Gye Duncan, a former resident, tells Reuters news agency. “They're either laughing about it or confused why because there's no real reason, or no logical reason why he (Trump) would do that.” People on the island are hoping the sudden international attention will give them a much-needed publicity boost and attract more visitors to the rugged volcanic island in the southern Pacific.

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 08:59**

only1billybonds wrote: ↑04 Apr 2025, 08:57 Mr Anon.

To be fair, most posters have left most threads.

Fair point

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 08:58**

goose wrote: ↑04 Apr 2025, 06:54
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:22
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:16
“Could happen”
”Not go.

Yeah , not gonna happen is my opinion. I’m not a one trick pony. I listen to El Erian but have enough sense to realize he is not always right. He has an opinion and many others share a different opinion that’s what makes a market. Nobody knows with any certainty, let’s see what happens! Now I’m done arguing with you, go argue with someone else.

“Not gonna happen”
“Nobody knows with any certainty”

lol

"just the $2trn wiped off yesterday (and counting)"

"Winning!"

Where's the Epstein list Nutsin?

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 08:57**

Mr Anon.

To be fair, most posters have left most threads.

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 08:53**

"Yeah , not gonna happen is my opinion. I’m not a one trick pony*

Nutsin, that's exactly what you are

And loved your comment that everyone knew the economy would tank when Trump took office (after months if saying the opposite) I guess you must have made an absolute fortune in shorting the market then, well done mate!

Not sure if you've noticed but most trump supporters vacated this thread weeks ago, you must be feelings jg lonely

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 08:16**

"You do realize you need high unemployment for Stagflation."

*cough* Japan

Posted: **04 Apr 2025, 06:54**

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:22
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:16
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:09

I know what El Erian is saying what COULD happen. Good to see that you do listen and are now using better resources to form an opinion. Well done there.

However that’s the doomsday scenario, not gonna happen, Gov’ts will cave and Tariffs will come down. You’ll see. And this is a big win for the American worker.

“Could happen”
”Not gonna happen”

righto.

Yeah , not gonna happen is my opinion. I’m not a one trick pony. I listen to El Erian but have enough sense to realize he is not always right. He has an opinion and many others share a different opinion that’s what makes a market. Nobody knows with any certainty, let’s see what happens! Now I’m done arguing with you, go argue with someone else.

“Not gonna happen”
“Nobody knows with any certainty”

lol

just the $2trn wiped off yesterday (and counting)

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 22:22**

goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:16
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:09
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:55
I do realise that but it’s not something that happens over night. The job losses come when growth stops.
Your favourite Muslim economist has predicted the very same thing.

Tarrifs ‘might’ bring manufacturing jobs back, but then again they might not. The consensus is not, but time will tell.

I know what El Erian is saying what COULD happen. Good to see that you do listen and are now using better resources to form an opinion. Well done there.

However that’s the doomsday scenario, not gonna happen, Gov’ts will cave and Tariffs will come down. You’ll see. And this is a big win for the American worker.

“Could happen”
”Not gonna happen”

righto.

Yeah , not gonna happen is my opinion. I’m not a one trick pony. I listen to El Erian but have enough sense to realize he is not always right. He has an opinion and many others share a different opinion that’s what makes a market. Nobody knows with any certainty, let’s see what happens! Now I’m done arguing with you, go argue with someone else.

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 22:16**

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 22:09
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:55
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:49

Oh that old Chestnut, we’ve been hearing the drum beats for Stagflation for years. LOL.

You do realize you need high unemployment for Stagflation. Quite the opposite of what Trump is creating.

Tarrifs are bringing manufacturing jobs back to the USA.

Try again.

I do realise that but it’s not something that happens over night. The job losses come when growth stops.
Your favourite Muslim economist has predicted the very same thing.

Tarrifs ‘might’ bring manufacturing jobs back, but then again they might not. The consensus is not, but time will tell.

I know what El Erian is saying what COULD happen. Good to see that you do listen and are now using better resources to form an opinion. Well done there.

However that’s the doomsday scenario, not gonna happen, Gov’ts will cave and Tariffs will come down. You’ll see. And this is a big win for the American worker.

“Could happen”
”Not gonna happen”

righto.

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 22:09**

goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:55
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:49
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:30
If you want to give it the proper name its stagflation.

Oh that old Chestnut, we’ve been hearing the drum beats for Stagflation for years. LOL.

You do realize you need high unemployment for Stagflation. Quite the opposite of what Trump is creating.

Tarrifs are bringing manufacturing jobs back to the USA.

Try again.

I do realise that but it’s not something that happens over night. The job losses come when growth stops.
Your favourite Muslim economist has predicted the very same thing.

Tarrifs ‘might’ bring manufacturing jobs back, but then again they might not. The consensus is not, but time will tell.

I know what El Erian is saying what COULD happen. Good to see that you do listen and are now using better resources to form an opinion. Well done there.

However that’s the doomsday scenario, not gonna happen, Gov’ts will cave and Tariffs will come down. You’ll see. And this is a big win for the American worker.

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 22:08**

So you are saying , Thatcher ,Reagan , Bush etc all got it wrong and the Great depression never occurred which was caused by a very similar policy , hope Trumps right haha

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 21:55**

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:49
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:30
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:18
You do realize that you have told us that we are heading for a recession which is deflationary and that Tariffs will create inflation? So which one is it limited one?

If you want to give it the proper name its stagflation.

Oh that old Chestnut, we’ve been hearing the drum beats for Stagflation for years. LOL.

You do realize you need high unemployment for Stagflation. Quite the opposite of what Trump is creating.

Tarrifs are bringing manufacturing jobs back to the USA.

Try again.

I do realise that but it’s not something that happens over night. The job losses come when growth stops.
Your favourite Muslim economist has predicted the very same thing.

Tarrifs ‘might’ bring manufacturing jobs back, but then again they might not. The consensus is not, but time will tell.

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 21:49**

goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:30
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:18
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:55
Both things I posted are facts.

How many trillions have been wiped off US pensions today?

You do realize that you have told us that we are heading for a recession which is deflationary and that Tariffs will create inflation? So which one is it limited one?

If you want to give it the proper name its stagflation.

Oh that old Chestnut, we’ve been hearing the drum beats for Stagflation for years. LOL.

You do realize you need high unemployment for Stagflation. Quite the opposite of what Trump is creating.

Tarrifs are bringing manufacturing jobs back to the USA.

Try again.

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 21:47**

The economic problems in most western countries are structural at heart. Using MMT to solve them has not and will not work (spend a little less, tax a little more). Cheap energy, decent paid productive jobs, remove idiotic idealogical barriers in the workplace, stop spunking money on foreign adventures and illegal immigrants. Simple

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 21:30**

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 21:18
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:55
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:50

Let’s be honest you’re pretty fucking far from a critical thinker.

Both things I posted are facts.

How many trillions have been wiped off US pensions today?

You do realize that you have told us that we are heading for a recession which is deflationary and that Tariffs will create inflation? So which one is it limited one?

If you want to give it the proper name its stagflation.

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 21:18**

goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:55
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:50
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:33
Everything assumption you’ve made about the impact of tariffs is a ‘what if’.

The only facts are that tariffs are inflationary and that the markets have dropped like a stone since those tariffs were announced.

Let’s be honest you’re pretty fucking far from a critical thinker.

Both things I posted are facts.

How many trillions have been wiped off US pensions today?

You do realize that you have told us that we are heading for a recession which is deflationary and that Tariffs will create inflation? So which one is it limited one?

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 20:55**

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:50
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:33
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:26
We’re talking what if’s now ffs! That’s all you got limited one?

Everything assumption you’ve made about the impact of tariffs is a ‘what if’.

The only facts are that tariffs are inflationary and that the markets have dropped like a stone since those tariffs were announced.

Let’s be honest you’re pretty fucking far from a critical thinker.

Both things I posted are facts.

How many trillions have been wiped off US pensions today?

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 20:50**

goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:33
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:26
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:15
Other points like ‘looking at a longer time period chart’? Or Fibonacci?
move over Warren Buffet.

By repeating propaganda you mean pointing out that tariffs are generally inflationary? That’s just basic economics.

if Trump hadn’t won and the markets had performed identically you would be shouting it from the rooftops. You’re so entrenched in your binary thinking that you’re simply unable to see any nuance in anything.

We’re talking what if’s now ffs! That’s all you got limited one?

Everything assumption you’ve made about the impact of tariffs is a ‘what if’.

The only facts are that tariffs are inflationary and that the markets have dropped like a stone since those tariffs were announced.

Let’s be honest you’re pretty fucking far from a critical thinker.

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 20:38**

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:28
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:26
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:15
Other points like ‘looking at a longer time period chart’? Or Fibonacci?
move over Warren Buffet.

By repeating propaganda you mean pointing out that tariffs are generally inflationary? That’s just basic economics.

if Trump hadn’t won and the markets had performed identically you would be shouting it from the rooftops. You’re so entrenched in your binary thinking that you’re simply unable to see any nuance in anything.

We’re talking what if’s now ffs! That’s all you got limited one?

The EU has had Tarrifs against the USA for years how inflationary was that then?

Your very own federal bank has stated it believes tariffs will be inflationary.

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 20:33**

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:26
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:15
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:00

Yeah I would if I were you. Your qualifications are obviously limited. All you ever do is repeat propaganda from liberal networks.

And come on here to argue any little point you can find.

I noted you didn’t care to mention all the other points made. Typifies how limited you are.
Lets be honest you’re a bit of a wanker really, aren’t you!

Other points like ‘looking at a longer time period chart’? Or Fibonacci?
move over Warren Buffet.

By repeating propaganda you mean pointing out that tariffs are generally inflationary? That’s just basic economics.

if Trump hadn’t won and the markets had performed identically you would be shouting it from the rooftops. You’re so entrenched in your binary thinking that you’re simply unable to see any nuance in anything.

We’re talking what if’s now ffs! That’s all you got limited one?

Everything assumption you’ve made about the impact of tariffs is a ‘what if’.

The only facts are that tariffs are inflationary and that the markets have dropped like a stone since those tariffs were announced.

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 20:28**

Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:26
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:15
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:00

Yeah I would if I were you. Your qualifications are obviously limited. All you ever do is repeat propaganda from liberal networks.

And come on here to argue any little point you can find.

I noted you didn’t care to mention all the other points made. Typifies how limited you are.
Lets be honest you’re a bit of a wanker really, aren’t you!

Other points like ‘looking at a longer time period chart’? Or Fibonacci?
move over Warren Buffet.

By repeating propaganda you mean pointing out that tariffs are generally inflationary? That’s just basic economics.

if Trump hadn’t won and the markets had performed identically you would be shouting it from the rooftops. You’re so entrenched in your binary thinking that you’re simply unable to see any nuance in anything.

We’re talking what if’s now ffs! That’s all you got limited one?

The EU has had Tarrifs against the USA for years how inflationary was that then?

Posted: **03 Apr 2025, 20:26**

goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:15
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 20:00
goose wrote: ↑03 Apr 2025, 19:44
Get my head around moving averages?? lol thanks so much for the advice. I’ll chuck all my qualifications in the bin.

Yeah I would if I were you. Your qualifications are obviously limited. All you ever do is repeat propaganda from liberal networks.

And come on here to argue any little point you can find.

I noted you didn’t care to mention all the other points made. Typifies how limited you are.
Lets be honest you’re a bit of a wanker really, aren’t you!

Other points like ‘looking at a longer time period chart’? Or Fibonacci?
move over Warren Buffet.

By repeating propaganda you mean pointing out that tariffs are generally inflationary? That’s just basic economics.

if Trump hadn’t won and the markets had performed identically you would be shouting it from the rooftops. You’re so entrenched in your binary thinking that you’re simply unable to see any nuance in anything.

We’re talking what if’s now ffs! That’s all you got limited one?

West Ham Online

The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)