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"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

Why don't you 'do your research' on the other negative stories you hear?

"Nurse, it's down to opinions. The climate change is bullshit, because I've done my research on it. However there are a number of people out there who live and die by the news they're fed each day, to which is 90% negative bullshit, which then leads to negative self talk which leads to anxiety which can also lead to depression."

"Surely that's a problem of perception? For example, right now you are on another thread pooh-poohing fears of catastrophe due to climate change. You are presenting evidence which you think contradicts, or at least adds balance, to the debate and calling people who support the climate change issue idiots. Why can't you adopt the same attitude to the other 'negative bullshit' things you hear and watch? Why is your cynicism so selective?"

"Totally agree, Scum."

"What I know is, those that constantly go on about their ""mental health"" on social media and wear it like a badge of honour, tend to not have depression and are just feeling a bit down, usually brought on by them fucking something up. People with real depression do what they can do hide it and keep it to themselves, sometimes until it is too late. What I also know is this countries obsession with Mental health has created a generation of people worrying about it and actually bringing it on themselves, there is nothing wrong with telling people to man up sometimes as that's what some people just need to do, the worlds a tough place and we are no longer mentally preparing our children for that, we are doing the exact opposite, this is causing huge issues along withe the whole ""gender"" thing. Real depression is awful and tough to get out of and people need real help. Most people though are just down and want sympathy. That is not depression. But they convince themselves it is."

"There's a lot of reasons to be stressed/depressed or anxious in today's world. Everything you read hear or watch is total negative bullshit, your subconcious takes in this information which can lead to negative self talk then anxiety/depression. To suggest today's world is a lot less stressful to me is utter nonsense."

"Branded it's an illness. When you have anxiety no matter how much you think to yourself and tell your brain that there's no need to feel stressed or anxious, you're brain doesn't listen. It's like the wiring is fucked."

"The oestrogen in men thing is interesting. Psychologists say that women are much more likely to be prone to negative emotions, ie anxiety and depression than men. There are also more women working in the States than men these days. The UK can’t be far behind. That can’t be good for men’s mental health. But the most likely reason why it seems more common with men is that there’s less of a stigma about admitting it these days, especially among men. The ‘pull your socks up. I was depressed for 3 1/2 days’ crowd is much smaller these days."

"WE, as a society, have lost a lot of our physical role models, too. As a lad, when I was growing up, every Sunday, without fail, either we, as a family, travelled to visit one of my uncle or aunt's family, or one of them came to visit us. That extended family offered a lot of unrealised support as there were always a few extra peers that you could bounce ideas off; and the slightly older ones always took the opportunity to demonstrate how much cleverer they were when us young'uns came up against something we were not sure about. My kids saw their nan once a month, and their cousins often no more than twice a year. If that is repeated as families evolve then it's little wonder fragmentation and additional feelings of being alone materialise."

Quite. There is literally no need to be stressed about anything.

I think people have far too much time to think what they are or are not and give it a category and then there are people who are genuinely mentally ill.

I think people have far too much time to think what they are or are not and give it a category and then there are people who are genuinely mentally ill.

"Some great posts on this thread, thank you for everyone who's talking about this. Also thankyou to those who've whomailed, I appreciate it hugely. I will be in touch."

"Really? It's not like your kids are going to get rickets or due of malnutrition. You're not going to die from smallpox or mangled on a muddy field with a spear through your chest. You are literate, you can afford to go on holiday, there is a mass transport system, wall-to-wall entertainment, food is cheap, there is a welfare safety blanket, and humans have never been in less peril in their day to day lives."

"Not so much more to get stressed/worried/negative about, more that society puts importance on a lot more things that really don't matter - however it is entrenched in us that they do."

"you get stress/anxiety in physical jobs too, especially if you're working with lazy cunts and under bad management"

People now days have the tools to be a lot more critical of each other especially with social media. I also believe that there's a lot more expected of people these days as well as there being a lot more to get stressed/worried/negative about.

good point Nurse. less physical jobs = less T flowing around the system.

"Maybe, also, more of you do less physical jobs. I dunno"

yes

so why is there so much more of it in men these days? - just because we hear it more? - the oestrogen in mens diets? - the changing role of women v men? - social media?

I do believe depression and anxiety are for the week minded. However weak-mindedness can be due to a number of factors and not always the fault of the individual and so I always feel sympathy for those that struggle with it.

"Mace66 10:46 Wed Jan 15 Re: Anxiety/depression Block 9:29 Wed Jan 15 Re: Anxiety/depression however something I read was that if you allow the thoughts to consume you and face them head on, for you to realise they aren't all that bad will help you overcome depression/anxiety. I'm trying to get my head around how that works if somebody is so low they are considering putting an end to it all. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- How successful this is will depend to a large extent on the severity of the depression. Those with milder symptoms may sometimes be able to rationalise their thoughts. Those at the more severe end of the spectrum (e.g those with suicidal thoughts), will find this a lot harder if not impossible."

"mace, depression and anxiety for people occur for various reasons, anxiety can be brought on by unresolved issues, however the logic behind it is that facing the issues instead of burying your head in the sand means the situation is resolved and then you don't have that problem to be anxious about. Same with panic attacks, if you allow them to happen instead of fighting/running away from them and then realising they aren't actually going to hurt you(which many people when they do suffer with panic attacks feel they're having a heart attack etc) then you don't fear them anymore. I'm not saying this works for all, It's something I read. I understand the logic behind it but it's not something that will work for everyone. I think ""professionals"" put anxiety/depression down to fear. So when you face your fears and realise it's not as bad as your head made out it alleviates the depression/anxiety. Read the book ""feel the fear but do it anyway"" by Susan Jeffries explains this theory."

"Manuel 10:21 Wed Jan 15 Na, but then again I don't really like people in general."