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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 19:23
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 19:16
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 18:06
Nutsin wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 17:30
You make 150k per year you are paying 45% income tax and 2% N I contributions. So 47%, So you clear 79,500 LOL.
Fuck that!
Not quite over 50% but pretty close. Then if you want to buy a home because you work hard and are considered successful only to get hit with Property tax. Good eh!
 
I don’t think anyone on 150k is considering giving it up to claim benefits and start shop lifting.
Never said they would.

allow me to explain it to you like I’m talking to a 6 year old.

My point is the kids today see no opportunity to better themselves. All they see is handouts, no incentives to work, what’s the point? Work your ass off to get nowhere.

Heavy taxation kills ambition and the entrepreneurial spirit.

Hope that helps!
Maybe you could get a 6 year old to explain how to calculate income tax & NI as well while you’re there as you seem incapable.

not one person ever decided against being ambitious because of the top rate of income tax. 

If you work hard you often do get somewhere, but a large chunk of society don’t fancy working hard.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 19:16
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 18:06
Nutsin wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 17:30
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 14:43
Don't be silly.
"most" of what you earn isn't taken from you at all.

and not working or shoplifting just makes the situation worse for everyone.
You make 150k per year you are paying 45% income tax and 2% N I contributions. So 47%, So you clear 79,500 LOL.
Fuck that!
Not quite over 50% but pretty close. Then if you want to buy a home because you work hard and are considered successful only to get hit with Property tax. Good eh!
 
I don’t think anyone on 150k is considering giving it up to claim benefits and start shop lifting.
Never said they would.

allow me to explain it to you like I’m talking to a 6 year old.

My point is the kids today see no opportunity to better themselves. All they see is handouts, no incentives to work, what’s the point? Work your ass off to get nowhere.

Heavy taxation kills ambition and the entrepreneurial spirit.

Hope that helps!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 18:54
by Nurse Ratched
, wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 18:16 An annual salary of £150k will leave you with £91k after tax and NI are deducted.
Pfft. COYI wouldn't get out of bed for that.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 18:16
by ,
An annual salary of £150k will leave you with £91k after tax and NI are deducted.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 18:06
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 17:30
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 14:43
Nutsin wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 14:28
Why would they want to work, most of what people earn is taken from them. 
Don't be silly.
"most" of what you earn isn't taken from you at all.

and not working or shoplifting just makes the situation worse for everyone.
You make 150k per year you are paying 45% income tax and 2% N I contributions. So 47%, So you clear 79,500 LOL.
Fuck that!
Not quite over 50% but pretty close. Then if you want to buy a home because you work hard and are considered successful only to get hit with Property tax. Good eh!
 
I don’t think anyone on 150k is considering giving it up to claim benefits and start shop lifting.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 17:30
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 14:43
Nutsin wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 14:28
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 09:26 After our game last night, I flicked over onto a programme about shoplifting in the UK. That show made me incredibly sad. There is a sizeable chunk of society who do not give a shit about anyone else, and most of them are kids. They don't wanna work for anything, they just feel they can take whatever they want and its fine. They live off the state and are happy to cheat the tax payer.

zero sense of community and zero work ethic, and we're not talking about a few people here - this is a big chunk of the country.
Why would they want to work, most of what people earn is taken from them. 
Don't be silly.
"most" of what you earn isn't taken from you at all.

and not working or shoplifting just makes the situation worse for everyone.
You make 150k per year you are paying 45% income tax and 2% N I contributions. So 47%, So you clear 79,500 LOL.
Fuck that!
Not quite over 50% but pretty close. Then if you want to buy a home because you work hard and are considered successful only to get hit with Property tax. Good eh!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 14:43
by goose
Nutsin wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 14:28
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 09:26 After our game last night, I flicked over onto a programme about shoplifting in the UK. That show made me incredibly sad. There is a sizeable chunk of society who do not give a shit about anyone else, and most of them are kids. They don't wanna work for anything, they just feel they can take whatever they want and its fine. They live off the state and are happy to cheat the tax payer.

zero sense of community and zero work ethic, and we're not talking about a few people here - this is a big chunk of the country.
Why would they want to work, most of what people earn is taken from them. 
Don't be silly.
"most" of what you earn isn't taken from you at all.

and not working or shoplifting just makes the situation worse for everyone.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 14:28
by Nutsin
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 09:26 After our game last night, I flicked over onto a programme about shoplifting in the UK. That show made me incredibly sad. There is a sizeable chunk of society who do not give a shit about anyone else, and most of them are kids. They don't wanna work for anything, they just feel they can take whatever they want and its fine. They live off the state and are happy to cheat the tax payer.

zero sense of community and zero work ethic, and we're not talking about a few people here - this is a big chunk of the country.
Why would they want to work, most of what people earn is taken from them. 

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 10:49
by goose
violator wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 10:40
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 09:26 After our game last night, I flicked over onto a programme about shoplifting in the UK. That show made me incredibly sad. There is a sizeable chunk of society who do not give a shit about anyone else, and most of them are kids. They don't wanna work for anything, they just feel they can take whatever they want and its fine. They live off the state and are happy to cheat the tax payer.

zero sense of community and zero work ethic, and we're not talking about a few people here - this is a big chunk of the country.
I saw that too, didn't they say that anything nicked with a value less than £200 isn't pursued by the old bill?
Yeh that's what they said, apprently 'they' are trying to change the law.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 10:40
by violator
goose wrote: 02 Apr 2025, 09:26 After our game last night, I flicked over onto a programme about shoplifting in the UK. That show made me incredibly sad. There is a sizeable chunk of society who do not give a shit about anyone else, and most of them are kids. They don't wanna work for anything, they just feel they can take whatever they want and its fine. They live off the state and are happy to cheat the tax payer.

zero sense of community and zero work ethic, and we're not talking about a few people here - this is a big chunk of the country.
I saw that too, didn't they say that anything nicked with a value less than £200 isn't pursued by the old bill?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 09:26
by goose
After our game last night, I flicked over onto a programme about shoplifting in the UK. That show made me incredibly sad. There is a sizeable chunk of society who do not give a shit about anyone else, and most of them are kids. They don't wanna work for anything, they just feel they can take whatever they want and its fine. They live off the state and are happy to cheat the tax payer.

zero sense of community and zero work ethic, and we're not talking about a few people here - this is a big chunk of the country.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 07:48
by Hammer I am
 
I see you don't know what unequivocable means.

'The tragedy of 7 July 2005 demands that all of us, both in public life and in civil and religious society, confront together the problems of Islamophobia, racism, unemployment, economic deprivation and social exclusion – factors that may be alienating some of our children and driving them towards the path of anger and desperation.'
Nice quote mining as ever surface, your ability to avoid admitting you may have been ignorant on certain things and refuse to concede you may not be as 100% informed as you thought  is impressive. Is the below unequivocal enough for you? 

“We, as Muslim Imams and religious leaders, condemn the recent terror attacks in Manchester and London in the strongest terms possible. Coming from a range of backgrounds, and from across the UK; feeling the pain the rest of the nation feels, we have come together to express our shock and utter disgust at these cold-blooded murders.We are deeply hurt that a spate of terror attacks have been committed in our country once more by murderers who seek to gain religious legitimacy for their actions. We seek to clarify that their reprehensible actions have neither legitimacy nor our sympathy.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 03:49
by Nutsin
So First it was the USA Dems trying to take out the threat of Trump, then it was Romania and now it’s France banning LePenn.

Tell me again, who is the threat to Democracy?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 02 Apr 2025, 02:06
by SurfaceAgentX2Zero
Hammer I am" wrote: 30 Mar 2025, 11:20
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 28 Mar 2025, 15:27
Hammer I am" wrote: 27 Mar 2025, 08:13 Mr Horse Shit

"Genuine question. Whenever an act of terror is carried out do the Imams come out and condemn the acts or do they stay quiet?"


Yes they do, every time, at least the one's that aren't extremists posing as imans. You haven't heard them because the MSM news you have no love for don't bother reporting it (just believe the opposite of what they say remember? Your words not mine)
Very funny reply. would read again.

I'm a fucking newshound and I don't think I've seen any imam unequivocally denounce any terrorist act ever.
I see you don't know what unequivocable means.

'The tragedy of 7 July 2005 demands that all of us, both in public life and in civil and religious society, confront together the problems of Islamophobia, racism, unemployment, economic deprivation and social exclusion – factors that may be alienating some of our children and driving them towards the path of anger and desperation.'

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 11:26
by Gaffer58
Didn’t realise “onlybillybonds’ was a black lesbian!!!

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 09:33
by Nutsin
only1billybonds wrote: 31 Mar 2025, 09:15 "Very familiar, I have a degree in Archaeology and a doctorate in Indus Valley civilisation"

Fuck me, Indiana Jones has signed up to WHO!  
Billy, He’s only Indiana Jones midweek on the weekends he’s busy trying to get his Tardis to start.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 09:15
by only1billybonds
"Very familiar, I have a degree in Archaeology and a doctorate in Indus Valley civilisation"

Fuck me, Indiana Jones has signed up to WHO!  

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 09:01
by Eerie Decent
Thank fuck they apologised.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 05:03
by Hammer I am
Nurse Ratched" wrote: 30 Mar 2025, 22:13
riosleftsock wrote: 30 Mar 2025, 21:42
Are you familiar with Taqquya?
Also, are you familiar with the history of Assyria, Mesopotamia and the City of Ur?
Very familiar, I have a degree in Archaeology and a doctorate in Indus Valley civilisation

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Mar 2025, 04:50
by Hammer I am
riosleftsock wrote: 30 Mar 2025, 21:42
Hammer I am" wrote: 30 Mar 2025, 11:20
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 28 Mar 2025, 15:27
Very funny reply. would read again.

I'm a fucking newshound and I don't think I've seen any imam unequivocally denounce any terrorist act ever.
Are you familiar with Taqquya?
what's your point exactly? Are you  conceding imans have denounced violence and terrorism but they don't mean it? and are you saying that's true for all of them? bit of a walkback from no iman has ever denounced violence

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 30 Mar 2025, 22:13
by Nurse Ratched
riosleftsock wrote: 30 Mar 2025, 21:42
Hammer I am" wrote: 30 Mar 2025, 11:20
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 28 Mar 2025, 15:27
Very funny reply. would read again.

I'm a fucking newshound and I don't think I've seen any imam unequivocally denounce any terrorist act ever.
Are you familiar with Taqquya?
Also, are you familiar with the history of Assyria, Mesopotamia and the City of Ur?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 30 Mar 2025, 21:42
by riosleftsock
Hammer I am" wrote: 30 Mar 2025, 11:20
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 28 Mar 2025, 15:27
Hammer I am" wrote: 27 Mar 2025, 08:13 Mr Horse Shit

"Genuine question. Whenever an act of terror is carried out do the Imams come out and condemn the acts or do they stay quiet?"


Yes they do, every time, at least the one's that aren't extremists posing as imans. You haven't heard them because the MSM news you have no love for don't bother reporting it (just believe the opposite of what they say remember? Your words not mine)
Very funny reply. would read again.

I'm a fucking newshound and I don't think I've seen any imam unequivocally denounce any terrorist act ever.
Are you familiar with Taqquya?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 30 Mar 2025, 11:20
by Hammer I am
SurfaceAgentX2Zero wrote: 28 Mar 2025, 15:27
Hammer I am" wrote: 27 Mar 2025, 08:13 Mr Horse Shit

"Genuine question. Whenever an act of terror is carried out do the Imams come out and condemn the acts or do they stay quiet?"


Yes they do, every time, at least the one's that aren't extremists posing as imans. You haven't heard them because the MSM news you have no love for don't bother reporting it (just believe the opposite of what they say remember? Your words not mine)
Very funny reply. would read again.

I'm a fucking newshound and I don't think I've seen any imam unequivocally denounce any terrorist act ever.
Great "newshound" you are


.https://salaam.co.uk/7-7-its-aftermath/

https://mcb.org.uk/collation-of-respons ... er-attack/

https://mcb.org.uk/over-130-imams-relig ... nted-move/

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 51576.html

Took about a minute Stevie wonder, want more?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Mar 2025, 09:17
by goose
Taxing billionaires and huge companies is communism?
the things you learn………

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 29 Mar 2025, 09:05
by Takashi Miike
of course they don't question his politics, he's a fellow communist