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"Been through bad time lately with suffering with this. Dark thoughts as well. I know some posters on here suffer with this. Anyone come through the other side of this shit?

"A number of posters have been yellow carded and told to stay off this thread unless they have anything constructive to add.This is a thread that has been very useful to so many, for any other posters with scores to settle, argue on another thread. This thread is sacrosant.Thank you"

"I always find it interesting to hear different people's experiences on different drugs. On paper citalopram, sertraline, paroxetine, fluoxetine, mirtazapine etc have very little between them. They are all off generic now, but when they were actively promoted, drug companies usually found it very hard to find anything to say about their own product that separated it from the competition. Only thing I would say, is try to stick with any new treatment you are prescribed for as long as you can. Side effects are often at their worst when you first start taking something, and usually diminish as your body gets used to the drug."

"Bolty, I can drink on mine as well, I don't drink as much nowadays though"

"Same here, I have drunk on setraline and never had any real issues, drugs on the other hand...."

"Block 6:06 Tue Jan 14 Can't remember, but I binned them within a few days. Sertraline took a week or two to work but without any of the side effects Citalopram gave me."

"All this bickering probably just highlights the misunderstanding across the board between being depressed and depression. Like Joe, I ""ran away"" from a marriage that had sucked all that was ""me"" out of me. I had & have a wide range of interests, so had no real worries about giving stuff I loved doing up - it wasn't even ""big"" stuff - I used to enjoy having music on whilst at home and pottering about, but even that got whittled down to an ""approved list "" of artists. It was all give on my part. One day, on the way to work, all the ducks lined up in my mind; I had nothing more to give (up). I am sure it wasn't depression, clinical or otherwise, but the marriage had to end and I was pretty fed up that I couldn't see a way of making it work. I was ""on automatic pilot"" for several weeks, still looking for an opening, a path through, but nothing. There was great peer pressure to ""front it out"", meetings with these people, meetings with those people; nothing gave me any glimmer of hope, so what benefit is that in a house with 3 young kids? Then, of course, the fireworks started. The human, and apparently limitless, ATM I had morphed into suddenly stopped working... ...3 years later, it all turned around, she abandoned our kids and I put the family back together; it was a struggle, but seemed to work out this time. The ""Man up, one size fits all"" solution only exists in the minds of simpletons. You know who you are."

"As far as drugs go, you sometimes have to make hard decisions. This is about friends of ours, in fact, my wife's roommates when I married her. He went to university for engineering at the same time I was there and I dated his wife briefly then, before they became a couple. Having that degree in the booming city we lived in, he had a great job and they just had their first (and only for later reasons) kid. A few years after we had move from that city, he found himself on bridge ready to throw himself off. Thankfully he had enough clear-headedness remaining get himself back home and eventually get help. I met him a few years later as her mom and mine live in the same small town and he was a completely different person. First thing he said, out of the blue, when I said hi was some obscure question about the new Star Wars. It was a bit tough to see but she still has a husband and his son still has a father. This is not a joke, I guess would be the gist of that."

"As far as drugs go, you sometimes have to make hard decisions. This is about friends of ours, in fact, my wife's roommates when I married her. He went to university for engineering at the same time I was there and I dated his wife briefly then, before they became a couple. Having that degree in the booming city we lived in, he had a great job and they just had their first (and only for later reasons) kid. A few years after we had move from that city, he found himself on bridge ready to throw himself off. Thankfully he had enough clear-headedness remaining get himself back home and eventually get help. I met him a few years later as her mom and mine live in the same small town and he was a completely different person. First thing he said, out of the blue, when I said hi was some obscure question about the new Star Wars. It was a bit tough to see but she still has a husband and his son still has a father. This is not a joke, I guess would be the gist of that."

"Hoddesdon will do that to people. Haha, indeed, are you from there then?"

"B-man, Citalapram is fucking horrific, did you drink on them? Cough, not good mate, hopefully they work out for you!"

Hoddesdon will do that to people. so will west ham.

"I work in the pharmaceutical industry and have been involved with various anti-depressants over the years. As with lots of therapy areas, one drug might suit one person better than another and vice versa. Often we don't know why this is, but switching until you find the one that is best for you is very common. There are no trials that show that one SSRI (or SNRI) is 'better' than any other. It's all horses for courses. Food craving is an unusual side effect. Are you sure you're not just a greedy cսnt? :)"

"Bolty, I've had depression all my life, nothing has worked, so this regime is a last chance for me"

"I was proper fucked with anxiety for about three years, was on Sertraline for a couple of years and it sorted me right out, 50mg but stopped them early last year and been fine ever since. Citalopram fucked me up when I tried it, massively. All down to the booze though."

"Was on the max 200mg for Sertraline, in the process of gradually reducing. As I said earlier, I found they've made me too numb. Putting chemicals in to correct your mood can be a necessary thing, but sometimes you need to release. For example, despite wanting to on several occasions because of different things I wouldn't deal with, I can't actually remember the last time I was able to cry Which might sound great, but if you're genuinely upset about something it's not good to not be able to get that mounting tension out. You just feel like shit. One of the other side effects for me is made me constantly craving food and binging (no I'm not just a greedy cսnt!)"

Jesus fucking wept. What on earth are you talking all that for?

"Bolty, I'm on 300 Mg Quetiapine, 10 Mg Promethazine and 45 Mg Mirtazapine, also take 2 Mg Circadin for sleep I rattle when I walk :-)"

"Was on 100mg every day, which I'm looking to drop to 50mg by the end of Jan. Chances are the dosages were too high with setraline, know a few people who are on it and find it really helpful."

"Block, Been on both of them, varying dosages."

"Blunders, which tablets did you use mate? I went on Citalapram(sp) firstly, I felt like shit, made me dizzy, sickness and generally lousy. Then switched to Setraline which has been absolutely brilliant, but obviously everyone reacts differently to drugs."

"Firstly, anyone who says shit like ""cheer up"", ""just stop doing X/Y/Z if it makes you unhappy"".... doesn't have a fucking clue what they're talking about. There is a massive massive difference between going through a rut or having the hump over something, and having a mental illness. To me Depression is a black cloud that hangs over you, a feeling of utter dread in your gut, a voice constantly at the back of your brain telling you you're a failure. It starts affecting everything you do. I've done 2 courses of CBT myself, the first one did fuck all. The therapist was shit. The most recent time I did it, probably saved my life because I saw absolutely no future for myself. I had to fight to get through every day. I just didn't want to be around anymore, I had no fight left. You've seen a GP which is the first step. I've been on medication a few different times overall probably for the majority of the past ten years I reckon. It has its advantages, but after a while I've found it tends to make me a bit too numb and they can also have some pretty bad side effects that can make you feel worse. But if you decide you don't want to be on them, you must come off them gradually and on medical advise. Don't just stop taking them. I'd also recommend getting a book called Feeling Good by Dr David Burns. Or there's a weekly discussion based podcast from the same author if that's more your thing. Best of luck toms."

"Royal, I'm pulling your plonker son. 8 years is a long time to deal with it, being on the other side of it and the one being a pain in the arse when I act up or out of character the mrs knows that it's not me, she's managed to grow patience and takes a step back and lets me go through it, rather than trying to fight me as it makes things a whole lot worse. I guess the difference is, she knew how to handle me and the situation, which does take time. At points she's wanted to walk away but the only reason she didn't was because she knew the ""real"" me."

"if his (joe) missus is making his life hell, why should he stick around??"

"Cheezey Bell-End 3:10 Tue Jan 14 Short term - no, long term - yes"

Bungo 4:44 Tue Jan 14 That's bollocks. Joe knows all there is to know about depression and anxiety. He was a little bit sad once for 3 and a half days.

"Royal, you run away because you couldn't handle it. Yes , I had 8 years of it then “ran away” How long should I have stuck it out for? Just remember ; I drive a truck , I am not educated , I have no medical. Skills and no training in any sort of health . Mental or otherwise . I think 8 years was long enough before running away . How long should I have given it ?"