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BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 23:05goose wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:42BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:05You completely miss the point .... and clearly dont understand the concept of an analogy. The use of an analogy is not to exactly replicate the scenario (that wouldn't be an analogy would it) its to make the scenario simpler to understand for the stupid among us.An analogy is a comparison between two things to show how they are similar.
There’s no similarity or parallel between Gaza and West Ham moving stadiums. That’s the point. But you carry on grasping for some of you wish.There doesnt have to be an exact similarity on every fucking level otherwise it would be exactly the same.
How analogies workAnalogies compare two things that are otherwise unlike.They are based on the idea that if two things are similar in some ways, they may be similar in other ways.Analogies can be used to help people understand abstract concepts by comparing them to something more concrete.
The analogy and the point I was making wasnt about your homeland being bombed it was about being forcefully moved against your will to a new home, slightly tongue in cheek I admit, comparing it to our move to the London Stadium.
Do you get it yet? No I didnt think so a bit too much for your timy little brain to comprehend. Even if you did understand now you are to embarrassed to admit it.
XKhammer wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 00:16Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 23:36 It’s truly shocking seeing people supporting a state that have an ideological superiority complex and a desire to destroy all Jews, accusing those not in support of them as Nazi’s.
The same people that want to save democracy by rigging it in their favour, through ‘independent’ agencies using government funds to discretely pay for media channels to promote their propaganda, and have official agencies secretly push for censorship of any media that opposes their agenda.
The first paragraph l tend to agree with
The second l dont as comes across as paranoia of a conspiracy theorist loon
XKhammer wrote: ↑06 Feb 2025, 00:16Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 23:36 It’s truly shocking seeing people supporting a state that have an ideological superiority complex and a desire to destroy all Jews, accusing those not in support of them as Nazi’s.
The same people that want to save democracy by rigging it in their favour, through ‘independent’ agencies using government funds to discretely pay for media channels to promote their propaganda, and have official agencies secretly push for censorship of any media that opposes their agenda.
The first paragraph l tend to agree with
The second l dont as comes across as paranoia of a conspiracy theorist loon
Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 23:36 It’s truly shocking seeing people supporting a state that have an ideological superiority complex and a desire to destroy all Jews, accusing those not in support of them as Nazi’s.
The same people that want to save democracy by rigging it in their favour, through ‘independent’ agencies using government funds to discretely pay for media channels to promote their propaganda, and have official agencies secretly push for censorship of any media that opposes their agenda.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 23:34Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 23:18BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 22:59So you justify this land grab because the Isrealis have levelled their homeland. Wow that is great logic bomb the fuck out of them means they should leave their homeland!
I appreciate that is exactly what Isreal wants to happen now but dont you understand thats exactly why the Palestinians wont leave because they will never get their homes or their land back if they do. Unlike you that fucked off to be a redneck dork in the good ole US of A, they treasure their homeland however much its been bombed to oblivion.
You are happy for the Isrealis to recommence the genocide and to boot the Palestinians out of Gaza then out of the West Bank. Is that the end game you are looking forward to? But you do realise that wont end it even if upur wildest dreams did come true - it would start all over again. But as I keep saying it wont happen.
First off the only reason the place is in rubble is because Hamas attacked Israel, let’s remember that shall we.
The place is in ruins, who’s gonna rebuild the fucking shit hole?
Obviously you don’t want the U S, so who Billy?
Howling do you want these people to suffer ffs?
Personally I don’t give a shit, I know one thing the US tax payer ain’t gonna pay for the rebuild, so who Billy?Oh so now you dont want them to suffer having bombed them to oblivion. Thats kind of you.![]()
If you'd actually read what I said resettling the Palestians is not a new or stupid idea. Yes Gaza has been levelled and the ordinary Palestinian should not be living in the rubble of a warzone, nobody should. So offer to resettle them temporarily and rebuild Gaza using the funds from the rich arab states and the US and make Isreal pay reparations. But suggesting that the USA should own Gaza in a land grab force all Palestinians to leave and then to turn it into a billionaires playground of condos probably developed and owned by Trump and his cronies is frankly insulting to all Arabs and can only be an attempt by Trump to get someone else to come up with a more palatable compromise because it is the most ridiculous of suggestions!
Hey I hope thats the outcome and maybe this is just a distraction from the utter chaos of his first 2 weeks in power.
Hey look over there... !!!!!!!!!!
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 23:18BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 22:59Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:22Oh so you’re an advocate of letting them remain in the Stone Age. Got it. Very good Billy’
I wonder what Jordan and Egypt will do when they have a migrant crisis? Wonder if they will step up or will they tell the Palestinians sorry too bad we
dont have the money to burn in rebuilding your war zone.
Sommer you realize that Israel is going nowhere the better Billy. You obviously live in denial.So you justify this land grab because the Isrealis have levelled their homeland. Wow that is great logic bomb the fuck out of them means they should leave their homeland!
I appreciate that is exactly what Isreal wants to happen now but dont you understand thats exactly why the Palestinians wont leave because they will never get their homes or their land back if they do. Unlike you that fucked off to be a redneck dork in the good ole US of A, they treasure their homeland however much its been bombed to oblivion.
You are happy for the Isrealis to recommence the genocide and to boot the Palestinians out of Gaza then out of the West Bank. Is that the end game you are looking forward to? But you do realise that wont end it even if upur wildest dreams did come true - it would start all over again. But as I keep saying it wont happen.
First off the only reason the place is in rubble is because Hamas attacked Israel, let’s remember that shall we.
The place is in ruins, who’s gonna rebuild the fucking shit hole?
Obviously you don’t want the U S, so who Billy?
Howling do you want these people to suffer ffs?
Personally I don’t give a shit, I know one thing the US tax payer ain’t gonna pay for the rebuild, so who Billy?
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 22:59Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:22BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:55Let me assure you redneck that this will never happen. It would require the agreement of the Arab States and no one in that region wants it, so unless Trump unilaterally enters Gaza, which will be an illegal move, its dead in the water.
You really have no idea about world politics do you. Congratulations you are now a fully fledged American idiot!
You talk of corruption you dont think all this effort by Trump wont end up with him lining his pockets. If Biden is found to be corrupt, which I would doubt any truth coming out of the US right now, at least Biden had the grace to hide it instead of waving it in the faces of the US nation.Oh so you’re an advocate of letting them remain in the Stone Age. Got it. Very good Billy’
I wonder what Jordan and Egypt will do when they have a migrant crisis? Wonder if they will step up or will they tell the Palestinians sorry too bad we
dont have the money to burn in rebuilding your war zone.
Sommer you realize that Israel is going nowhere the better Billy. You obviously live in denial.So you justify this land grab because the Isrealis have levelled their homeland. Wow that is great logic bomb the fuck out of them means they should leave their homeland!
I appreciate that is exactly what Isreal wants to happen now but dont you understand thats exactly why the Palestinians wont leave because they will never get their homes or their land back if they do. Unlike you that fucked off to be a redneck dork in the good ole US of A, they treasure their homeland however much its been bombed to oblivion.
You are happy for the Isrealis to recommence the genocide and to boot the Palestinians out of Gaza then out of the West Bank. Is that the end game you are looking forward to? But you do realise that wont end it even if upur wildest dreams did come true - it would start all over again. But as I keep saying it wont happen.
goose wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:42BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:05You completely miss the point .... and clearly dont understand the concept of an analogy. The use of an analogy is not to exactly replicate the scenario (that wouldn't be an analogy would it) its to make the scenario simpler to understand for the stupid among us.An analogy is a comparison between two things to show how they are similar.
There’s no similarity or parallel between Gaza and West Ham moving stadiums. That’s the point. But you carry on grasping for some of you wish.
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:22BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:55Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:18When you say ethnic cleansing are you talking about Hamas attacking Israel Zeb?
Billy,
you have TDS, being stuck on stupid is not an option.
I think You’re secretly shitting yourself because you’re worried it just might work.
Bit like how the Dem party are shitting themselves right now because DOGE are auditing all the wasteful Biden regime spending on foreign aid while people in North Carolina and Los Angeles are being told sorry, no money for you.
Funny it’s the very same people that hired over 80,000 more IRS agents to audit the tax payer.
Don’t be surprised to learn that your boy Biden and his cronies were ne k deep on back handlers and corruption at the expense of the tax payer.
Certainly explains how they are all going ballistic right now.Let me assure you redneck that this will never happen. It would require the agreement of the Arab States and no one in that region wants it, so unless Trump unilaterally enters Gaza, which will be an illegal move, its dead in the water.
You really have no idea about world politics do you. Congratulations you are now a fully fledged American idiot!
You talk of corruption you dont think all this effort by Trump wont end up with him lining his pockets. If Biden is found to be corrupt, which I would doubt any truth coming out of the US right now, at least Biden had the grace to hide it instead of waving it in the faces of the US nation.Oh so you’re an advocate of letting them remain in the Stone Age. Got it. Very good Billy’
I wonder what Jordan and Egypt will do when they have a migrant crisis? Wonder if they will step up or will they tell the Palestinians sorry too bad we
dont have the money to burn in rebuilding your war zone.
Sommer you realize that Israel is going nowhere the better Billy. You obviously live in denial.
goose wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:42BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:05You completely miss the point .... and clearly dont understand the concept of an analogy. The use of an analogy is not to exactly replicate the scenario (that wouldn't be an analogy would it) its to make the scenario simpler to understand for the stupid among us.An analogy is a comparison between two things to show how they are similar.
There’s no similarity or parallel between Gaza and West Ham moving stadiums. That’s the point. But you carry on grasping for some of you wish.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:05goose wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:57BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:47Jeez that wasnt my analogy was it... it was the move from The Boleyn to The London Stadium nice shiny and new but Upton Park was our shithole and our home!Again someone is giving you a nice new home, and paying for it.
And Upton Park has been blown to pieces and is littered with unexploded bombs.
which one are you choosing?You completely miss the point .... and clearly dont understand the concept of an analogy. The use of an analogy is not to exactly replicate the scenario (that wouldn't be an analogy would it) its to make the scenario simpler to understand for the stupid among us.
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:22BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:55Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:18When you say ethnic cleansing are you talking about Hamas attacking Israel Zeb?
Billy,
you have TDS, being stuck on stupid is not an option.
I think You’re secretly shitting yourself because you’re worried it just might work.
Bit like how the Dem party are shitting themselves right now because DOGE are auditing all the wasteful Biden regime spending on foreign aid while people in North Carolina and Los Angeles are being told sorry, no money for you.
Funny it’s the very same people that hired over 80,000 more IRS agents to audit the tax payer.
Don’t be surprised to learn that your boy Biden and his cronies were ne k deep on back handlers and corruption at the expense of the tax payer.
Certainly explains how they are all going ballistic right now.Let me assure you redneck that this will never happen. It would require the agreement of the Arab States and no one in that region wants it, so unless Trump unilaterally enters Gaza, which will be an illegal move, its dead in the water.
You really have no idea about world politics do you. Congratulations you are now a fully fledged American idiot!
You talk of corruption you dont think all this effort by Trump wont end up with him lining his pockets. If Biden is found to be corrupt, which I would doubt any truth coming out of the US right now, at least Biden had the grace to hide it instead of waving it in the faces of the US nation.Oh so you’re an advocate of letting them remain in the Stone Age. Got it. Very good Billy’
I wonder what Jordan and Egypt will do when they have a migrant crisis? Wonder if they will step up or will they tell the Palestinians sorry too bad we
dont have the money to burn in rebuilding your war zone.
Sommer you realize that Israel is going nowhere the better Billy. You obviously live in denial.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:55Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:18When you say ethnic cleansing are you talking about Hamas attacking Israel Zeb?
Billy,
you have TDS, being stuck on stupid is not an option.
I think You’re secretly shitting yourself because you’re worried it just might work.
Bit like how the Dem party are shitting themselves right now because DOGE are auditing all the wasteful Biden regime spending on foreign aid while people in North Carolina and Los Angeles are being told sorry, no money for you.
Funny it’s the very same people that hired over 80,000 more IRS agents to audit the tax payer.
Don’t be surprised to learn that your boy Biden and his cronies were ne k deep on back handlers and corruption at the expense of the tax payer.
Certainly explains how they are all going ballistic right now.Let me assure you redneck that this will never happen. It would require the agreement of the Arab States and no one in that region wants it, so unless Trump unilaterally enters Gaza, which will be an illegal move, its dead in the water.
You really have no idea about world politics do you. Congratulations you are now a fully fledged American idiot!
You talk of corruption you dont think all this effort by Trump wont end up with him lining his pockets. If Biden is found to be corrupt, which I would doubt any truth coming out of the US right now, at least Biden had the grace to hide it instead of waving it in the faces of the US nation.
zebthecat wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:11BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:01Both analogies end with you being moved to a shiny shithole you didnt want to go to and were sent there against your will!I sort of did but missed the bit where they bombed the shit out you and killed half of your relatives.
This is unfiltered Trump we are getting now as he's surrounded himself with toadies. There are no adults left in the room.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 21:01Both analogies end with you being moved to a shiny shithole you didnt want to go to and were sent there against your will!
goose wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:57BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:47Jeez that wasnt my analogy was it... it was the move from The Boleyn to The London Stadium nice shiny and new but Upton Park was our shithole and our home!Again someone is giving you a nice new home, and paying for it.
And Upton Park has been blown to pieces and is littered with unexploded bombs.
which one are you choosing?
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:47goose wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:25BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 19:33Im not far left... im just not stupid enough to think Trump is doing this for anyone other than himself!
Relocation is a solution Ive already said that. But rather than imposing it on them, dont you think maybe having a region wide disussion with some real diplomats might help. Ive nothing against the principle it the way hes positioned it as a land grab and development into a condos.
Hmmm here's an anology for you how about if someone came a long to you and said you live in a shithole Im going to move you to a shiny new place that isnt your home whether you like it or not and that shiny new home is the London Stadium!Financially speaking that’s a terrible analogy. If someone offered to buy my current home and offered me a brand new one just down the road for minimal cost, and offered to pay the upkeep for me……….. I’d snap their arm off.Jeez that wasnt my analogy was it... it was the move from The Boleyn to The London Stadium nice shiny and new but Upton Park was our shithole and our home!
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:18When you say ethnic cleansing are you talking about Hamas attacking Israel Zeb?
Billy,
you have TDS, being stuck on stupid is not an option.
I think You’re secretly shitting yourself because you’re worried it just might work.
Bit like how the Dem party are shitting themselves right now because DOGE are auditing all the wasteful Biden regime spending on foreign aid while people in North Carolina and Los Angeles are being told sorry, no money for you.
Funny it’s the very same people that hired over 80,000 more IRS agents to audit the tax payer.
Don’t be surprised to learn that your boy Biden and his cronies were ne k deep on back handlers and corruption at the expense of the tax payer.
Certainly explains how they are all going ballistic right now.
goose wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 20:25BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 19:33Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 19:17 One minute it’s grizzling about ‘genocide’ of terrorists and the need for aid, then the next it’s grizzling about terrorists potentially being relocated from their now uninhabitable shithole.
You far left retards are never happy.
Im not far left... im just not stupid enough to think Trump is doing this for anyone other than himself!
Relocation is a solution Ive already said that. But rather than imposing it on them, dont you think maybe having a region wide disussion with some real diplomats might help. Ive nothing against the principle it the way hes positioned it as a land grab and development into a condos.
Hmmm here's an anology for you how about if someone came a long to you and said you live in a shithole Im going to move you to a shiny new place that isnt your home whether you like it or not and that shiny new home is the London Stadium!Financially speaking that’s a terrible analogy. If someone offered to buy my current home and offered me a brand new one just down the road for minimal cost, and offered to pay the upkeep for me……….. I’d snap their arm off.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 19:33Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 19:17 One minute it’s grizzling about ‘genocide’ of terrorists and the need for aid, then the next it’s grizzling about terrorists potentially being relocated from their now uninhabitable shithole.
You far left retards are never happy.
Im not far left... im just not stupid enough to think Trump is doing this for anyone other than himself!
Relocation is a solution Ive already said that. But rather than imposing it on them, dont you think maybe having a region wide disussion with some real diplomats might help. Ive nothing against the principle it the way hes positioned it as a land grab and development into a condos.
Hmmm here's an anology for you how about if someone came a long to you and said you live in a shithole Im going to move you to a shiny new place that isnt your home whether you like it or not and that shiny new home is the London Stadium!