Paqueta - Latest news

[Alan]

"Sport Bible New report on Lucas Paqueta's spot-fixing charges reveals how much of next season West Ham star can play There has been an update on Paqueta's case. Alex Brotherton Lucas Paqueta will be free to play for West Ham for most of next season despite facing spot-fixing charges. Paqueta has been charged by the Football Association with four separate instances of spot-fixing. The 28-year-old stands accused of deliberately getting himself booked during four Premier League matches. It is one of the most serious cases of spot-fixing involving a top-flight player in England, and could land Paqueta with a lengthy ban. However, the Brazil international can continue to play until the disciplinary process has been completed. According to The Times, the outcome of the process could be delayed until the end of the 2024-25 season or beyond. That is due to the complexity of the case; Paqueta's lawyers say it will take many months to secure all the witness statements and relevant information they need for their defence. That's because the case spans three countries - England, Brazil and Spain - and involves a large number of people. The charges allege that Paqueta got himself booked during matches against Leicester City, Aston Villa, Leeds United and Bournemouth over the past two seasons so that “one or more persons” could profit financially. The investigation that preceded the charges took eight months. In September 2023, Brazilian outlet Globo reported that suspicious gambling patterns were identified in Brazil relating to Paqueta being booked against Aston Villa in March that year. The bets were reportedly made using West Ham's shirt sponsor Betway, via accounts belonging to people linked to Paqueta. The FA initially gave the player until June 3 to respond to the charges, but his lawyers were granted an extension. English football's governing body has refused to put a timescale on the case. Paqueta has been linked with a move to Brazilian giants Flamengo this summer, but this latest development will give encouragement to new West Ham boss Julen Lopetegui that he can use the midfielderthis season."

[Fauxstralian]

Understood before the last delay the FA made an offer which involved some sort of ban but not life which was rejected of course
Our response should have been to say we wouldn’t sue if the case was thrown out immediately 
The FA have dug a hole and don’t know how to get out of it without looking like cunts

[Russ of the BML]

The Club at this point should get involved instead of sitting back for the outcome, hire some very fucking expensive lawyers, and move to have the whole thing thrown out.


 

Indeed. The club have been far too easy on this up to now. They should release a statement and say that they and Lucas have co-operated fully up to now, but if charges are not brought before midway through June then they will no longer co-operate and deem the case closed. Get the lawyers to them start firing shots back. As you say, bring it or throw it out. I am also sure Lucas also has some personal rights around personal freedom that can be thrown. 

It's just an absolute farce now. 

[stubbo-admin]

The Club at this point should get involved instead of sitting back for the outcome, hire some very fucking expensive lawyers, and move to have the whole thing thrown out.

 

[John Drake]

The further delay is because VAR are looking at it now

[Manuel]

This truly is BS now and we need to do something. Yes I feel sorry for the player, but more importantly this is seriously hampering our transfer plans etc.

[Fauxstralian]

He was due to be sold to Man City after that Bournemouth game for something around £80m … sue for that 
Imagine he was going to double his wages … sue for what he has missed out on over 2 years
At the time of the charge wasn’t Prince William President of the FA?
Sue him personally 
This has got beyond a joke 

[honky cat]

 

I'd imagine their people are desperately looking for anything they can possibly find to nail on him.

100% this. Not only are the club looking for transfer fees but he would claim to have lost endorsements and sponsorships. How can the FA afford to lose?

So what to do? Can he be sold off to a South American club? or are all transfer dealings on hold pending the outcome of the case? Could be a lengthy and difficult case for the club to start against the FA. We're screwed in the short term. 

[Pub Bigot]

Paqueta and West Ham should start suing the FA now. 

This. It’s become a saga now. What could be the reason to delay that was supposed to happen and what legal grounds have they got for holding up the career of a player and the progress of a club? 

Even if the player is guilty, West Ham are not, and they’re hurting the club by dithering. 

[Mex Martillo]

Paqueta and West Ham should start suing the FA now. 

[El Scorchio]

Apparently another two month delay in this.
Joke.
It's cruel for the player and it's shit for us.

This has got all the signs of the authorities not wanting to lose face. Nothing to do with being right or wrong; all to do with being seen to be right.

They bottle this one, you can bet Manchester City's lawyers will be all over this case like a bad rash.

For the media, it'll me more "Tevez's goal at Old Trafford 100% saved us from relegation, no matter what else happened that day".

 

 

My thoughts exactly. It's probably not leading to a comfortable place for the FA to be in (i.e. they lose) and they don't want to deal with the ramifications of that. (i.e. likely having to pay a shed load of damages) I'd imagine their people are desperately looking for anything they can possibly find to nail on him.

In the meantime though we are stuck with a player who is clearly affected by all this and clearly no longer wants to be here. We don't know if we can/have to replace him or not or even what sort of fee we could expect for him. Certainly not the 85 million (IIRC) we would have been due previously, so the FA have cost us that and god knows what they've cost him in potential earnings, and it's just hanging over yet another transfer window.

[goose]

If the FA do not win this case I hope Paqueta and his lawyers have a field day.

as should the club as this is seriously hampering our recruitment plans.

[Mike Oxsaw]

Apparently another two month delay in this.
Joke.
It's cruel for the player and it's shit for us.

This has got all the signs of the authorities not wanting to lose face. Nothing to do with being right or wrong; all to do with being seen to be right.

They bottle this one, you can bet Manchester City's lawyers will be all over this case like a bad rash.

For the media, it'll me more "Tevez's goal at Old Trafford 100% saved us from relegation, no matter what else happened that day".

[El Scorchio]

Apparently another two month delay in this.
Joke.
It's cruel for the player and it's shit for us.

[Mex Martillo]

Finally and unsurprisingly coming out that Paqueta has been suffering during this 2 year farce. Due to end in June?

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... r-west-ham

[Mike Oxsaw]

If the main case against Paquetá is that members of his family put these bets on then they should have just said that they did it because his sometimes clairvoyant niece Maria had seen him get a yellow card in a dream. Given the paltry amounts that were laid on that actually seems more believable than that it was a criminal conspiracy to win just a few grand when the main instigator gets paid more than that every week.

Well, that's more plausible that "the authorities" taking covert action against West Ham because the oiky little barrow boys had the audacity to win a trophy and then seemed on the verge of roughing up the Big 6 media-friendly cartel in the PL/CL.

[Jean-Luc Paul Goddard]

If the main case against Paquetá is that members of his family put these bets on then they should have just said that they did it because his sometimes clairvoyant niece Maria had seen him get a yellow card in a dream. Given the paltry amounts that were laid on that actually seems more believable than that it was a criminal conspiracy to win just a few grand when the main instigator gets paid more than that every week.

[Texas Iron]

Biggest anti West Ham stirrer was Henry Winter Journalist…stating that West Ham would have been relegated without Tevez…

Arrogant KnowNothing C U N T

[Mex Martillo]

I agree Gary, Betway is crap. I started an account with them because they sponsor West Ham. Also got the 25 quid joining gift, promptly won handsomely as I correctly bet we would finish in the top 6 only to find the winnings were half theirs as the gift was some fictional money that wasn't really mine. So I have this "money" with them that I try and use to bet on the season and FA cup, which I do twice a year, but every time I have to go through the crap chat bot thing to unlock the account which they keep freezing due to inactivity. And that is not easy as it is usually a nightmare just to find the frigging crap chat bot. Bloody rubbish, I should pack it in, but feel that is what they want me to do. A business based on people joining getting pissed off and abandoning their account.

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

I know it's drifting slightly off-topic, but can somebody remind me, given all the other results that day, what score at Old Trafford would have relegated us?

Any loss.
A DRAW was all we needed.

SHEFF UTD can fuck right off .

Just like ASTON FOOKIN VILLA IN  THE LEAGUE CUP Q/F ..

I despise both 

[Monsieur merde de cheval]

I'm bored with this cսnt 

[Gary Strodders shank]

Betway are a shower of shit 

I see they have withdrawn their license application in Brazil ahead of regulations coming in.

Transparency is needed to see if Paqueta and his family were initially approached by the bookmaker and club sponsor and encouraged to open an account.

They were previously fined a record amount for courting so called VIP customers with inducements days out and bonus funds encouraging them to continue betting when they couldn't afford it and in one case accepting funds which turned out to be stolen from an employer.

They also recently received a separate fine for advertising on our club children's webpage

I've personally had an issue in getting paid out from them after they offered me a free bet which won at 25/1 and found you cannot get through to anyone other than the useless bot help facility which is not fit for purpose.
 
Phone calls to the London office and emails to various departments and directors are not responded to.

They treat the customer with utter contempt 

As for Paqueta s pals I see most of the bets were less than £50 and some as small as £7 

I also suspect they had also backed him to score and in other markets as well as the bookings.

Hopefully that will prove to be the case and he will escape a ban.











 

[goose]

Yeh whatever happened elsewhere a draw would have kept us up………. But people still say Tevez goal ‘saved’ us.

Tevez goal was 2006/07 season not when we got relegated in 2010/11 

I know, that’s what we’ve been talking about. A draw at Man U would have been enough.
ladyboy jumped in and started waffling about 10/11.

[eusebiovic]

Yeh whatever happened elsewhere a draw would have kept us up………. But people still say Tevez goal ‘saved’ us.

Tevez goal was 2006/07 season not when we got relegated in 2010/11 

[MaryMillingtonsGhost]

We finished bottom that year on less than 38 points you retard.
Charlton and sheff united were not in the PL then either.

 

 

Yep, bottom of the league on 33pts.

[goose]

Yeh whatever happened elsewhere a draw would have kept us up………. But people still say Tevez goal ‘saved’ us.