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Lopetegui (sacked 8.1.2025)

Posted: 18 Aug 2024, 01:31
by maverick180
I was thoroughly looking forward to the start of this season

Was also prepared that things might take some time and wasn't expecting miracles over night What I didn't expect was a manager who after spending 6 weeks with the total dross he'd been left by Moyes would deem them fit to start in a premier league game And low and behold all of them played absolute shit

We're now 1 game in and none of our new players are any closer to bedding in or learning anything from their new team mates cos they barely spent a second on the pitch, half of them not at all I think it's gonna take somewhere between 6-10 games before we see the team anyone with an ounce of sense would play cos this bloke can't identify shit when he see's it I thought we was handed a miracle at half time when we went in level and low and behold he changed nothing I'm sure people are gonna make excuses for him and say it's too early to judge

But from what I've just seen today, this cսnt is David Moyes in a mission impossible mask

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 21:10
by goose
Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 21:03 You are not literally seeing nothing, unless you don't want to see it. You and other's are more than welcome to pretend and ignore we don't make countless goal scoring opportunities these days and if we had a fit and clinical Striker up top to put many of these chances away this season, the intensity around the blokes future would be non existent. Instead he has had to put up with no Fullkrug until very recently who's fitness is still lacking, his other main Striker Antonio involved in a potential career ending car accident and Bowen getting injured in the Liverpool game for 2 months on top of everything else going wrong for us up top. 

The signs are clear that the quality of passing as Team now is generally decent that creates a shit load of chances when we can field our main Keeper (shock, horror out injured due to new concussion protocol) and don't have to rely so much on the Greek tragedy in defence. People can overlook all those mitigating circumstances and pretend it doesn't make a jot of difference but to those like me it certainly does. And that's before we even get on to all the constant nonsense off the pitch involving conniving protagonists in charge conspiring to fuck it all up.

Sacking him off the back of losing away to Champions Man City and Champions elect Liverpool is laughable. 
I’d say they’re sacking him because he’s lost half the games he’s managed and conceded 2 goals a game while doing so.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 21:07
by Massive Attack
onsideman wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 20:56 You're embarrassing, Massive Twat. Truly embarrassing... or you're Mrs Lopetegui 
Cry more he's still here wanker....

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 21:03
by Massive Attack
You are not literally seeing nothing, unless you don't want to see it. You and other's are more than welcome to pretend and ignore we don't make countless goal scoring opportunities these days and if we had a fit and clinical Striker up top to put many of these chances away this season, the intensity around the blokes future would be non existent. Instead he has had to put up with no Fullkrug until very recently who's fitness is still lacking, his other main Striker Antonio involved in a potential career ending car accident and Bowen getting injured in the Liverpool game for 2 months on top of everything else going wrong for us up top. 

The signs are clear that the quality of passing as Team now is generally decent that creates a shit load of chances when we can field our main Keeper (shock, horror out injured due to new concussion protocol) and don't have to rely so much on the Greek tragedy in defence. People can overlook all those mitigating circumstances and pretend it doesn't make a jot of difference but to those like me it certainly does. And that's before we even get on to all the constant nonsense off the pitch involving conniving protagonists in charge conspiring to fuck it all up.

Sacking him off the back of losing away to Champions Man City and Champions elect Liverpool is laughable. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:56
by onsideman
You're embarrassing, Massive Twat. Truly embarrassing... or you're Mrs Lopetegui 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:42
by Ron Eff
Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 18:00 It was straightforward, leave Lopetegui to just get on with seeing out the season and see what comes of it. We weren't going to be relegated and then decide calmly which way to go from that point with a lot of talk about Allegri possibly waiting in the wings. Instead what we've done is create a massive needless shitshow desperately whoring ourselves about by making an absolute mess of it all. 
I was initially also onboard with giving Lopetegui time but you can’t honestly still believe this, while taking the stance you are on Potter?

We are halfway through the season and I still can’t see what style he is trying to play. We get pummelled by almost any half decent side. Defensively we are an embarrassment. We give up so many chances every game, and that can’t be purely down to personnel. Fuck knows what his idea is with bombing both full backs up the pitch and leaving two defenders like lambs to the slaughter on the counter. Worse still, he hasn’t realised in 21 games that it doesn’t work!

If I were seeing any signs to suggest he just needed time for his style to get up to speed, I would agree with persevering, but we are literally seeing nothing. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:19
by Massive Attack
Alfs wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 20:05 I do think contracts should have clauses in them to stop managers getting a massive payout for doing a shit job.  For example, play 20 games with a less than 33% win rate and you can be fired with no compensation.  And to counter that, the bonuses for being successful should be very generous. 

Seeing people get very rich because of their own failures is very irksome.
Potter would be fortunate then as he only got 38.71% (31.11% at Brighton) at Chelsea and they had to pay out an absolute fortune in the end for his Chelsea failure.

Anyway Potter, you have another night to sleep on it before finally deciding yes or no you classless prick... 😴

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:16
by Massive Attack
And there's more...

New manager appointment could delay West Ham's transfer businessLatest from Sky Sports' Rob Dorsett, speaking on The Transfer Show:

"They are going to sort it out in the next couple of days and I expect him [Potter] to be appointed in the next couple of days. 

“Then they will be talking to Potter about which new signings he would like. Virtually every club in the Premier League has a sporting director and a technical director.

“One is dealing with the managerial situation, it may be the sporting director in charge of the footballing policy. 

“I understand West Ham are pretty active even after spending £100m in the summer, they are looking at what is out there and are interested in Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall. It does not put their transfer business on hold, but it might be delayed.”

🤣

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:07
by Alfs
Rusta wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 20:01 He’ll be sacked before the pre game press conference I’m sure..Not even Sullivan could sink that low surely 
Or during it.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:05
by Alfs
I do think contracts should have clauses in them to stop managers getting a massive payout for doing a shit job.  For example, play 20 games with a less than 33% win rate and you can be fired with no compensation.  And to counter that, the bonuses for being successful should be very generous. 

Seeing people get very rich because of their own failures is very irksome.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:01
by Takashi Miike
RootsRadical wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 19:57 Latest from SKY Is we've had further positive talks with Potter and are hopeful he will take team for the Villa cup game.
Yet they've let Loppy take training today and IDs still expected to do the presser tomorrow for that game.

What a fucking shambles, Sullivan needs to be hounded out!
 
 
 
 
I heard earlier that the press conference has been allegedly put back until thursday

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:01
by Massive Attack
In the eternal words of Jimmy Cricket 'and there's more'....



🤡🤡🤡

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 20:01
by Rusta
He’ll be sacked before the pre game press conference I’m sure..Not even Sullivan could sink that low surely 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:57
by RootsRadical
Latest from SKY Is we've had further positive talks with Potter and are hopeful he will take team for the Villa cup game.
Yet they've let Loppy take training today and IDs still expected to do the presser tomorrow for that game.

What a fucking shambles, Sullivan needs to be hounded out!

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:40
by Massive Attack
Iron Duke" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 19:38 Yeah, I should have been clearer. I meant have they ever had to pay another club compensation for a manager? For us anyway?
Ah OK, nah like Mad dog says. GSB have always been penny pinching cunts and the latest one we baulked at paying out was Amorim which would have saved a lot of all this time and money wasted.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:38
by Iron Duke
Yeah, I should have been clearer. I meant have they ever had to pay another club compensation for a manager? For us anyway?

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:38
by Mad Dog
The last one would be pardew.  I can't think of any other examples. Certainly not in porn boy's era

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:36
by Massive Attack
Iron Duke" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 19:30 Have they ever appointed a manager for us who they had to pay compensation for? They don’t even like getting rid of managers before their contract is up. They would rather the team suffered even though that ultimately costs them prize money. Probably don’t want to have to pay the bonuses.
They had to pay up Bilic, Pellegrini and potentially Lopetegui for cutting short their stays. Unless you're a British manager of course then you can have as long as you want at it until your contract eventually runs out. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:30
by Iron Duke
Have they ever appointed a manager for us who they had to pay compensation for? They don’t even like getting rid of managers before their contract is up. They would rather the team suffered even though that ultimately costs them prize money. Probably don’t want to have to pay the bonuses.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:28
by Massive Attack
Keep dreaming" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 19:22 Marco Silva for 8m. Shame we don't think long term and always go for cheap options
And yet it always ends up costing us more in the long run anyway. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:22
by Keep dreaming
Marco Silva for 8m. Shame we don't think long term and always go for cheap options

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:04
by Massive Attack
Of course it's the Club and not him personally. You wouldn't blame him either after everything that's happened. Sullivan has created all this.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 19:04
by Texas Iron
Barrow Boy mentality running a 2Billion dollar club…

Spare us from further ignominies..

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 18:48
by goose
Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 18:24
Takashi Miike" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 18:17 I have to agree with a yt channel (not C&B) and their view that they're (the vermin) trying to get Loppy to walk without paying him off. Public humiliation for twenty four hours, his disgusting ITK propagandists shit stirring, and the bloke now set for a press conference having no idea where he stands with this vile fucking midget 
 
I hope he takes Sullivan to the cleaners with how they've treated him. Not just more recently but also the constant untenable 1 game to save your job threats or constant reports drip fed in to the Media about meeting other managers further undermining his position throughout the season. He had no chance having to deal with all that pressure, on top of everything else. Now expected to take Training sessions and Press Conferences to rub salt in the wounds as we flirt further with endless candidates. Shameful. 
But he won’t take Sullivan to the cleaners, he’ll take the club (his employer) to the cleaners.

You have to remember this isn’t Sullivan’s money.

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 18:24
by Massive Attack
Takashi Miike" wrote: 07 Jan 2025, 18:17 I have to agree with a yt channel (not C&B) and their view that they're (the vermin) trying to get Loppy to walk without paying him off. Public humiliation for twenty four hours, his disgusting ITK propagandists shit stirring, and the bloke now set for a press conference having no idea where he stands with this vile fucking midget 
 
 
I hope he takes Sullivan to the cleaners with how they've treated him. Not just more recently but also the constant untenable 1 game to save your job threats or constant reports drip fed in to the Media about meeting other managers further undermining his position throughout the season. He had no chance having to deal with all that pressure, on top of everything else. Now expected to take Training sessions and Press Conferences to rub salt in the wounds as we flirt further with endless candidates. Shameful. 

Re: Lopetegui

Posted: 07 Jan 2025, 18:23
by twoleftfeet
According to Nick ( C & B ) the issue was that the board on Sunday agreed to get rid of him but wanted to speak to Potter first but someone in that meeting told the media. He thinks Steidten is the issue and both he and Loppy should go.

it is Nick from C & B though so probably utter bollocks.