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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

"Even by 2Left's standards, that mental health comment is bonkers."

Darlo Debs 6:10 Wed Jul 26 'only a total tit would be arrogant enough to.think.it was cos I thought people don't like me.' Arrogant? How would that make me arrogant? You can't even speak English.

*On WHO ....

Mental Health and things that won't kill.you? Have you not seen the suicide rates in this country 2lf I think.its fairly safe to say your mental.health can.kill.you Blimey the things you read on .

In other news Kevin Spacey has been found not guilty. Do you think the Globe Theatre will reinstate him as fast as they dropped him?

Surf only a total tit would be arrogant enough to.think.it was cos I thought people don't like me. You are quite the comedian though probably unintentional I'll grant you that

"The NHS is broken, it’s a bottomless pit for money. It offers too much. Get rid of mental health, cosmetic surgery ( except in cancer cases ) and every other thing that won’t kill you. Concentrate on proper Illnesses and stop pandering to people."

"Debs 'Ark.at you thinking I give a toss what a random.loser on a football chat room.thinks of me in any way shop.or form.' The lady doth protest too much, methinks. After all, you did swan off the site in a massive sulk for about a year..."

Ark.at you thinking I give a toss what a random.loser on a football chat room.thinks of me in any way shop.or form. Bloody hilarious

"Debs Finally, nor have I suggested you are horrid because you support the NHS in its present form. I clearly stated it was a perfectly reasonable position. The reason I think you are horrid (your word, not mine) is down to your habitual lying and your omnipresent self-righteousness and assumption of victimhood. It's important you realise why I, and others, have such disdain for you."

"Debs Finally, nor have I suggested you are horrid because you support the NHS in its present form. I clearly stated it was a perfectly reasonable position. The reason I think you are horrid (your word, not mine) is down to your habitual lying and your omnipresent self-righteousness and assumption of victimhood. It's important you realise why I, and others, have such disdain for you."

"Debs You are doing it again. Nobody has mentioned the USA except you. Nor has anyone mentioned the elderly. I have certainly given no indication that I don't care about the elderly and I very much resent your clear implication that I don't. Incidentally, almost all of your beloved EU uses a system other than ours involving an element of medical insurance. Your self-righteousness is poisonous."

Surf what you seem.to.forget in all.this is that the elderly are probably the biggest users of the NHS most might even remember a time without it when affording a doctor appointment was beyond them The US insurance based healthcare system. leaves many without cover or only.partially covered and thousands go.bsnkrupt yearly trying g to.afford basic medicines If you'd be happy with that then maybe it's your values that are at odds with British ones...pretty sure you'd be welcome over there though. It'd get you away from.sll.the horrid people like me that want an NHS that belongs to.us all.

"Debs Goodness, gracious, me again! The adult population of the UK is about 55m. 22% of 55m (per lefty YouGov (100-78)) is about 11.5 million people. Nobody except you has mentioned the American system. Are you seriously disputing that 11.5 million people is not 'many, many, people' You really are a ghastly liar."

7 million is bigger than many countries.

Fifth Person becomes more conservative as they grow older shocker! üòÇüòÇüòÇüòÇüòÇüòÇ Have you changed your moral compass? How much should the state either support people or redistribute wealth and then leave them free to live their own lives unhindered by the state? Surely we are talking about the constant involvement of a huge state and a few vast institutions and corporations upon our lives. These very institutions set the tone by which we are supposed to agree and conform and they are staggered when individuals disagree.

"Forgetful.and a liar ""Many, many people believe that the best way to deliver the best medical care to the greatest number of people would be to introduce some form of insurance-based healthcare system,' No straw man just you spouting bullshit as usual You said many many people. Only in your cuntish feeble little head would 9% prepresent many many people. In a representative survey of probably a few thousand at most"

"Darlo Debs 4:57 Wed Jul 26 Re: Woke watch 'Prickly especially when you know inam.right. Your assertion.that most Brits wan an insurance based system.comes from.where exactly? Kate Andrews?.Conservative Home? It's bollocks by the way' More lies. I said no such thing. Not even close to it. Your attempt to deflect from what I actually posted by posting loads of evidence against what I didn't post is called straw-manning. Please try and avoid this fallacy. Having pointed out your usual lie, I stand by everything I post. You straw-manning, self-righteous little woman. * you see what I did there..."

Surf here you gomagain. I say something and you get all Prickly especially when you know inam.right. Your assertion.that most Brits wan an insurance based system.comes from.where exactly? Kate Andrews?.Conservative Home? It's bollocks by the way. 78% of Brits are happy with the free at the point of use system paid for by taxation .we have and if we compare it to the US as theirs is probably the one at most extreme opposite of that only about 9% of Brits would want their healthcare systemvfunded as Americans have it. YouGov study.

"The current NHS is an overly expensive, outdated, bloated, politically charged, self serving edifice of near cult proportion - it has served it's purpose and fails on every metric whilst attracting the globe's flotsum and chancers to board inflatable mermaids Long overdue a deep overhaul and ruthless culling"

"Branded All those concepts have changed so much though, left, right centre. The Road To Somewhere is a good book. Fundamentally argues left and right aren't meaningful anymore and it's more people who have an affiliation with place and tradition (""somewheres"") and those who feel they are citizens of the world (""anywheres""). It's why a lot of traditional ""left"" places (Red Wall) voted 'right' because the Tories have positioned themselves as the part of somewhere, if place, of country. I'm left wing in terms of economics. But what today is seen as right wing in terms of social policy eg I recognise that a communal sense of belonging is important, that the family unit should be supported (without demonising those who don't fit into it). What would have been standard Labour policy in previous decades But now the Tories probably represent most of my views on social issues more than Labour. I haven't changed my views in 25 years. So I don't think I've changed. I think political parties have changed. Right and left doesn't mean a lot. A lot of young people call themselves ""leftists"" and they don't actually know what left wing policies traditionally meant."

Branded that completely.misses the point I.made re centrist.but hey never mind Also.which much does get spent on diabetes medication not all ills are diabetes related and free at the point of use health service alcan also seek.to provide public health programmes and does so..They aren't mutually exclusive.

The biggest problem with a free at the point of delivery system is that it does not encourage healthy minded behaviours from many in society. I would much prefer a system that rewards the healthy minded. I constantly have conversations with fat cunts who want to have their cake and eat it and ask for the way in which that might be achieved. Stop eating the fucking cake as much is not the simple answer they like to hear.

"Centrism is the smug middle. They can be left or right centre but they mostly have similar ways of seeing the World. Probably happy with globalisation either in the form of giant corporations or socialist policies. They would be happy to be a middle manager in either. Have benefits of pension, wage and mild wokeist mindset. They completely believe in the idea of a progressive world of change no matter if its needed or desired."

"Darlo Debs 3:29 Wed Jul 26 'Branded funny you should mention the NHS..Farage openly called for an Insurance Based healthcare system back.in 2002' Good grief, she's at it again! Many, many people believe that the best way to deliver the best medical care to the greatest number of people would be to introduce some form of insurance-based healthcare system, whether within or without the NHS (so no inconsistency at all from Farage, there) You are free to agree or disagree. What you are not entitled to do is to suggest that someone who does favour that policy is a bad person. Or that you, in opposing it, are a particularly good person. The stench of self-righteousness is nauseating."