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Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 19:25BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:59Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:45Billy throwing out insults again, don’t you realize how pathetic that makes you look Billy?
With Trumps new executive order that is gonna hurt the Iranians economically you can expect Hamas to receive less funding.
Bringing in all the others in the region and getting them on board will change the perspective of those in the region.
The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery.
There will of course be those that will be against it no matter what is offered, to be expected.
What is obvious is having Hamas in charge of Gaza isn’t an option.Those whipped up by Trumps bullying and posturing are hysterical redneck dorks, if the cap fits wear it with pride!
Not sure you have any moral high ground when it comes to hurling insults around, your Moyesiah meltdowns are legendary and you cսnt everybody off!
"The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery."
You seriously beleive Trump or Isreal are doing it for the Palestinians prosperityyou fucking retard!
No Billy, I believe it’s a way forward that helps the Palestinians right now, it helps bring in other Arab nations to be part of the solution and it will help the entire region to climb out of poverty and misery. Of Course it helps the Jews too and it also helps the U S recover some of the costs for rebuilding.
Nothing retarded about it. What’s retarded is to constantly pick a fight with a much stronger enemy who has the capability of ruining everything around you and bombing you back to the Stone Age.
Now that’s fucking retarded.
Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 19:17 One minute it’s grizzling about ‘genocide’ of terrorists and the need for aid, then the next it’s grizzling about terrorists potentially being relocated from their now uninhabitable shithole.
You far left retards are never happy.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:59Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:45BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:26Typical Trumpism everything is black and white you either support the idea or you want to destroy Isreal!
Nutsack and here is the nub thats not how proper level headed politicians work. Like I say if theyd sold the idea as a solution to the Palestinians problem and hey another radical idea for you, actually discussed it with the Palestinians and the surrounding nations first, then maybe people wouldnt see it as another of Trumps mad Imperialist ideas. Use some fucking sense and some diplomacy and sit down with all parties dont make it look like a land grab with Netanyahu's smugly smiling next to you! How do you think that would land?
Oh and to get Hamas out of Gaza you are going to have to allow Isreali/US troops to clear it. You think Iran and the terror groups will let them ride on through! Its a disaster waiting to happen.
But you just keep chanting USA USA USA USA! Fucking redneck dork!
Oh and my view is this wont happen, but maybe hes just sabre rattling like the tariffs, in the hope someone else comes up with a better solution.Billy throwing out insults again, don’t you realize how pathetic that makes you look Billy?
With Trumps new executive order that is gonna hurt the Iranians economically you can expect Hamas to receive less funding.
Bringing in all the others in the region and getting them on board will change the perspective of those in the region.
The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery.
There will of course be those that will be against it no matter what is offered, to be expected.
What is obvious is having Hamas in charge of Gaza isn’t an option.Those whipped up by Trumps bullying and posturing are hysterical redneck dorks, if the cap fits wear it with pride!
Not sure you have any moral high ground when it comes to hurling insults around, your Moyesiah meltdowns are legendary and you cսnt everybody off!
"The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery."
You seriously beleive Trump or Isreal are doing it for the Palestinians prosperityyou fucking retard!
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:45BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:26Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:06 Letting them remain there as is-is obviously not an option.
Investment to rebuild is gonna be practically impossible as nobody in their right mind would spend Billions rebuilding while Hamas are still there.
So the countries surrounding the area are gonna have to deal with migration of Palestinians looking for help.
So there is that as an option.
OR
You could try to do something positive where all those surrounding countries are included in relocating the desperate Palestinians to a safe area where they get to live comfortably in peace and then have a conglomerate of surrounding countries get together to build a demolition site into an area for all to enjoy, that creates jobs and prosperity for the region.
We will also have the help of these surrounding countries out all the Hamas militants that shelter in Egypt, Jordan etc:
When people have something to lose they tend to value it.
It won’t be easy but doing nothing is the worse of all options and doing the same thing that’s been happening for years obviously doesn’t work.
At least this brings in the other surrounding countries to help influence the Gazans to see sense and gives the Palestinians their Palestinian state that they’ve always wanted.
But allowing them to live like rats in the rubble is not an option.
Personally I don’t think they “ The Palestinians” have much of a choice.
The Saudis and Qataris will need to be heavily involved
The Abraham accords will come back in to focus again, you can expect more countries to jump on board to build prosperity in the region.
Any tax revenue could be used in part to help provide social programmes for the New Palestinian state.
One things for certain there will always be some cսnt throwing water on any idea that doesn’t include the destruction of Israel.
Typical Trumpism everything is black and white you either support the idea or you want to destroy Isreal!
Nutsack and here is the nub thats not how proper level headed politicians work. Like I say if theyd sold the idea as a solution to the Palestinians problem and hey another radical idea for you, actually discussed it with the Palestinians and the surrounding nations first, then maybe people wouldnt see it as another of Trumps mad Imperialist ideas. Use some fucking sense and some diplomacy and sit down with all parties dont make it look like a land grab with Netanyahu's smugly smiling next to you! How do you think that would land?
Oh and to get Hamas out of Gaza you are going to have to allow Isreali/US troops to clear it. You think Iran and the terror groups will let them ride on through! Its a disaster waiting to happen.
But you just keep chanting USA USA USA USA! Fucking redneck dork!
Oh and my view is this wont happen, but maybe hes just sabre rattling like the tariffs, in the hope someone else comes up with a better solution.Billy throwing out insults again, don’t you realize how pathetic that makes you look Billy?
With Trumps new executive order that is gonna hurt the Iranians economically you can expect Hamas to receive less funding.
Bringing in all the others in the region and getting them on board will change the perspective of those in the region.
The prosperity provided will help convert some of the Palestinians into conforming to the idea, I’m sure they are tired of the constant wars and misery.
There will of course be those that will be against it no matter what is offered, to be expected.
What is obvious is having Hamas in charge of Gaza isn’t an option.
BillyJenningsBoots wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:26Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:06 Letting them remain there as is-is obviously not an option.
Investment to rebuild is gonna be practically impossible as nobody in their right mind would spend Billions rebuilding while Hamas are still there.
So the countries surrounding the area are gonna have to deal with migration of Palestinians looking for help.
So there is that as an option.
OR
You could try to do something positive where all those surrounding countries are included in relocating the desperate Palestinians to a safe area where they get to live comfortably in peace and then have a conglomerate of surrounding countries get together to build a demolition site into an area for all to enjoy, that creates jobs and prosperity for the region.
We will also have the help of these surrounding countries out all the Hamas militants that shelter in Egypt, Jordan etc:
When people have something to lose they tend to value it.
It won’t be easy but doing nothing is the worse of all options and doing the same thing that’s been happening for years obviously doesn’t work.
At least this brings in the other surrounding countries to help influence the Gazans to see sense and gives the Palestinians their Palestinian state that they’ve always wanted.
But allowing them to live like rats in the rubble is not an option.
Personally I don’t think they “ The Palestinians” have much of a choice.
The Saudis and Qataris will need to be heavily involved
The Abraham accords will come back in to focus again, you can expect more countries to jump on board to build prosperity in the region.
Any tax revenue could be used in part to help provide social programmes for the New Palestinian state.
One things for certain there will always be some cսnt throwing water on any idea that doesn’t include the destruction of Israel.
Typical Trumpism everything is black and white you either support the idea or you want to destroy Isreal!
Nutsack and here is the nub thats not how proper level headed politicians work. Like I say if theyd sold the idea as a solution to the Palestinians problem and hey another radical idea for you, actually discussed it with the Palestinians and the surrounding nations first, then maybe people wouldnt see it as another of Trumps mad Imperialist ideas. Use some fucking sense and some diplomacy and sit down with all parties dont make it look like a land grab with Netanyahu's smugly smiling next to you! How do you think that would land?
Oh and to get Hamas out of Gaza you are going to have to allow Isreali/US troops to clear it. You think Iran and the terror groups will let them ride on through! Its a disaster waiting to happen.
But you just keep chanting USA USA USA USA! Fucking redneck dork!
Oh and my view is this wont happen, but maybe hes just sabre rattling like the tariffs, in the hope someone else comes up with a better solution.
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:29 If the Palestinians were a really nice bunch of people you can negotiate with, then I might be able to see your point there, BJB.
But they're not.
I'd send them, and their supporters, back there if it's literally a minefield.
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:06 Letting them remain there as is-is obviously not an option.
Investment to rebuild is gonna be practically impossible as nobody in their right mind would spend Billions rebuilding while Hamas are still there.
So the countries surrounding the area are gonna have to deal with migration of Palestinians looking for help.
So there is that as an option.
OR
You could try to do something positive where all those surrounding countries are included in relocating the desperate Palestinians to a safe area where they get to live comfortably in peace and then have a conglomerate of surrounding countries get together to build a demolition site into an area for all to enjoy, that creates jobs and prosperity for the region.
We will also have the help of these surrounding countries out all the Hamas militants that shelter in Egypt, Jordan etc:
When people have something to lose they tend to value it.
It won’t be easy but doing nothing is the worse of all options and doing the same thing that’s been happening for years obviously doesn’t work.
At least this brings in the other surrounding countries to help influence the Gazans to see sense and gives the Palestinians their Palestinian state that they’ve always wanted.
But allowing them to live like rats in the rubble is not an option.
Personally I don’t think they “ The Palestinians” have much of a choice.
The Saudis and Qataris will need to be heavily involved
The Abraham accords will come back in to focus again, you can expect more countries to jump on board to build prosperity in the region.
Any tax revenue could be used in part to help provide social programmes for the New Palestinian state.
One things for certain there will always be some cսnt throwing water on any idea that doesn’t include the destruction of Israel.
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 18:06 Letting them remain there as is-is obviously not an option.
Investment to rebuild is gonna be practically impossible as nobody in their right mind would spend Billions rebuilding while Hamas are still there.
So the countries surrounding the area are gonna have to deal with migration of Palestinians looking for help.
So there is that as an option.
OR
WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 17:43 Who do I think the idea is? Well if it's a modern contemporary of someone promoting this idea, then Ben Gvir.
Trumps just applying the finishing touches.
And no Billy, I don't agree with any of it.
WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 17:20 Billy Jennings Boots..you think this is Trump's solution?
a new "radical" idea?
How long has that "tail wagging the dog" expression been around, concerning all this?
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 04:55 Oh I forgot the Dept of Education is being dismantled too. Way too heavily influenced by the far left.
Trump also signed an Executive order banning men from woman’s sports.
But I’m really looking forward to watching the US take out the Mexican Drug Cartels, I’m reading they think they have half a chance in a fight with the border patrol.
I Hope the reports are true and the Cartels do step up, will be a lot of fun watching tha Apache helicopters and the F22 and F35’s obliterate the soppy cunts.
Nutsin wrote: ↑05 Feb 2025, 04:12 So Trump made an announcement today that it is gonna take years to rebuild Gaza. He said it is unsanitary and unsafe due to all the undetunated munitions laying around and unsafe structures.
So he wants the USA to move in and rebuild it into the middle eastern Riviera. A place that all can go to to enjoy.
It won’t be entirely funded by USA, there is a lot of money over there, so Qatar and the Saudis are expected to want in on the action.
build homes for the Palestinians (Nice homes so they can settle in a nice area outside of Gaza and finally have their own state and live in comfortable peace.
Sounds like a good idea for all including the Israelis, they won’t have the Palestinians on their border and a big win for the Middle East. Whoever gives up the land for the Palestinian territory will be in on the profits.
Sounds like a good idea to me.
One things for sure, Trumps not short of ideas and he’s not fucking about this time.
They sent out buyout letters to the entire CIA, a huge number of FBI agents too.
And DOGE are exposing USAID as a huge corrupt money pit, guilty of ridiculous amounts of ridiculous spending on all kinds of ridiculous causes outside of the USA. Wait till DOGE is done auditing the Pentagon.
Oh and Trump wants the states to establish its own Sovereign wealth fund.
MAGAZA!