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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 13:44
by Lee Trundle
Hammer I am" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:57
Lee Trundle" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:50
Hammer I am" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:42
 
you're just being disingenuous at this stage, no I wouldn't be happy with China being the dominate world player, but I don't think it warrants invading allies and sovereign nations to dent their trading power. You'd have to be a cretin to believe otherwise 
America won't be invading Greenland or Panama.
 
I'm glad you've ruled it out at least, Something Trump was unwilling to do when specifically asked. Just out of interest If that were to happen I guess you'd condemn him at that point wouldn't you?
Stick to being worried about America invading Greenland or Panama over what I think of Trump.

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Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 13:29
by Mr Anon
What's interesting about Greenland is the UK legally has first refusal to buy if Denmark decide to sell it, would be hilarious if that played out. Might be the reason for Trump's sudden u turn on Starmer last week

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:57
by Hammer I am
Lee Trundle" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:50
Hammer I am" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:42
Lee Trundle" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:37 So just to be clear, you're much happier with China being the dominate world power?
 
you're just being disingenuous at this stage, no I wouldn't be happy with China being the dominate world player, but I don't think it warrants invading allies and sovereign nations to dent their trading power. You'd have to be a cretin to believe otherwise 
America won't be invading Greenland or Panama.
 
 
I'm glad you've ruled it out at least, Something Trump was unwilling to do when specifically asked. Just out of interest If that were to happen I guess you'd condemn him at that point wouldn't you?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:53
by BerlingtonBertie
The yanks royally fucked us over when we parachuted into Suez. Now the two faced cunts want the Panama Canal. Horrible cunts Americans. 

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:50
by Lee Trundle
Hammer I am" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:42
Lee Trundle" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:37 So just to be clear, you're much happier with China being the dominate world power?
 
you're just being disingenuous at this stage, no I wouldn't be happy with China being the dominate world player, but I don't think it warrants invading allies and sovereign nations to dent their trading power. You'd have to be a cretin to believe otherwise 
America won't be invading Greenland or Panama.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:46
by Eerie Decent
Hammer I am" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:23 This is the man that's crass enough to blame the Washington air crash on Biden and diversity hire even before the black boxes had been fished out the river. I'm sure you lot lapped it up though
 
 
It's an opinion. Many people more intelligent than you or I have said for a while now that DEI would have disastrous effects long term, it's not something he's just pulled out of nowhere. You can disagree with that by all means, others will disagree with you, but it hardly means they're just 'lapping it up'.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:42
by Hammer I am
Lee Trundle" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:37 So just to be clear, you're much happier with China being the dominate world power?
 
 
you're just being disingenuous at this stage, no I wouldn't be happy with China being the dominate world player, but I don't think it warrants invading allies and sovereign nations to dent their trading power. You'd have to be a cretin to believe otherwise 

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:39
by Lee Trundle
Hammer I am" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:37
Lee Trundle" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:30 ON a rating out of 10, how worried are you about what the Americans call the Gulf of Mexico?
 
That was sort of my point, such a petty meaningless thing to do, for nothing else either than stroke his ego and get the sort of moron that actually cares about it on side.
 
 
You do realise that the french do exactly the same thing with the English Channel?

A body of water much closer to our hearts.  How much worry do you have over them calling it La Manche?  Is it more or less than what the Americans, or I, call the Gulf of America?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:38
by Far Cough UKunt
I have been down the Suez canal one way and both ways down the Panama canal, have also done the Kiel and Corinth canals.

I'm the fucking canal man.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:37
by Hammer I am
Lee Trundle" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:30 ON a rating out of 10, how worried are you about what the Americans call the Gulf of Mexico?
 
 
That was sort of my point, such a petty meaningless thing to do, for nothing else either than stroke his ego and get the sort of moron that actually cares about it on side.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:37
by Lee Trundle
So just to be clear, you're much happier with China being the dominate world power?

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Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:34
by Hammer I am
Lee Trundle" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:21 Trump standing up to China, in terms of the Panama Canal, is a good thing.

Unless you agree on what the Chinese are doing globally is better for the world (it isn't).
 
 
Tell me exactly what you're talking about in regards to China and the Panama Canal?Chinese companies operate in ports at the ends of the canal after they legally bid for the rights to do so but so do U.S. and Taiwanese companies in bigger numbers75% of canal use is the US. while China is .21% of it's traffic.

What exactly is it that means US should seize the canal?

China is the biggest user of the Suez Canal by the way, should US seize that to?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:32
by goose
Hammer I am" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 12:23 This is the man that's crass enough to blame the Washington air crash on Biden and diversity hire even before the black boxes had been fished out the river. I'm sure you lot lapped it up though
I listened to his speech on LBC - it was was crazy but to be fair to him he did say they had listened to the tapes and they had a good idea of what caused the crash.

probably not dwarfs but something around ATC capability.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:30
by Lee Trundle
ON a rating out of 10, how worried are you about what the Americans call the Gulf of Mexico?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:23
by Hammer I am
This is the man that's crass enough to blame the Washington air crash on Biden and diversity hire even before the black boxes had been fished out the river. I'm sure you lot lapped it up though

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:21
by Lee Trundle
Trump standing up to China, in terms of the Panama Canal, is a good thing.

Unless you agree on what the Chinese are doing globally is better for the world (it isn't).

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 12:18
by Hammer I am
Eerie Decent" wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 09:45
Hammer I am" wrote: 30 Jan 2025, 15:46 Well I think that would affect pretty much everyone in the long run, besides that it would be a quiet forum if you only should comment on things that personally affect you
As I asked before, what specifically worries you about it in the long run? Not some blokes article, I'm asking you why you're so worried?

And aside from Greenland, what other things are you so worried about? I'm genuinely interested.
 if Trump is willing to attack an ally in the name of "national security" then it will probably be the end to the trans atlantic alliance and a threat to world peace. It's a land grab, same as Panama canal would be, its more to do with his ego than concerns about Russia or China, his ridiculous renaming of the Gulf Of Mexico should tip you off about that

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:40
by Leavemyarcelona
One Sunny Day" wrote: 27 Jan 2025, 16:22 Another paedo gang been jailed. They seemed to have slipped through the radar for 13 years. For some reason Elon Musk, Nigel Farage, Laurence Fox and their supporters are being very quiet about this one. (Can forgive Tommy Robinson, this time, seeing he's banged up for bullying a child. I'm sure had he been free, he would have shown up at the court trying to disrupt the trial by videoing people.)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dxj570n21o
Who says their quiet?

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 11:08
by only1billybonds
What a shock, the BBC going all negative on Brexit. Still, the usual suspects piss is still being sufficiently boiled so clouds n silver linings.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:55
by Far Cough UKunt
ag ag ag

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Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:53
by Lee Trundle
Swiss. wrote: 31 Jan 2025, 10:37 Everyone should read this:

Five key impacts of Brexit five years on

Everything I predicted has come true. Those who voted to leave really are the gullible and the stupid.
9 years later, and they still taste as good now as they did back then.

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Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:37
by Swiss.
Everyone should read this:

Five key impacts of Brexit five years on

Everything I predicted has come true. Those who voted to leave really are the gullible and the stupid.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 10:28
by only1billybonds
Think the yanks are looking at Greenland strategically seeing as it's closer to America than it is to Denmark. Better off in their hands rather than the Chinese or Russians.

Looks like Guantanamo is going to be getting busy again.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 31 Jan 2025, 09:45
by Eerie Decent
Hammer I am" wrote: 30 Jan 2025, 15:46 Well I think that would affect pretty much everyone in the long run, besides that it would be a quiet forum if you only should comment on things that personally affect you
As I asked before, what specifically worries you about it in the long run? Not some blokes article, I'm asking you why you're so worried?

And aside from Greenland, what other things are you so worried about? I'm genuinely interested.

Re: The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 30 Jan 2025, 17:36
by WHU(Exeter)
So there will undoubtedly be others within the South Yorkshire police force, who were also aware of this latest revelation, I'd guess even when it was going on, who would rather see the two perpetrators leave quietly and that would be that?

As well as a period of many years, where some of  those amongst them who did want to do the right and proper thing, quit or were forced out of the police service, for daring to want to do more about the systematic raping of vulnerable minors?

​​​​​​But it was all because they were underfunded and stretched?

Council tax bills will be out soon. Be lovely to wake up in Rotherham, (I know, I'm stretching it a bit here), to find out it's another 5% increase and then when you see the broken down bit, most of that is for increased police costs.

Still, if you're angry about any of this you're a gammon racist.