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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

"O1bb with that logic we may as well scrap.all.law....those things will.haplen anyway. Murder, death by dangerous driving, fraud etc Goose the aim.isnt to protect everyone if they don't recognise the gender violence towards women existing. You can't protect people from.a problem.that you deny exists."

"They’re proposing broadening a law to protect EVERYONE. I think that’s a good idea, Debs doesn’t. That’s about the long & short of it."

"Debs. Do you reckon domestic violence will lessen if the laws around it are tightened? I'm telling you now it wont. By the time plod turn up, the victim has already been CLUMPED. If the abuser spends the next few months inside it wint mean the abused suffered any less. Like i said,violence is sadly built in to some people and no amount of laws will change that."

"O1bb I never said anywhere men shouldn't be .protected and they are..Men would still realistically be in the minority in that regard but nobody should have to put up.with domestic violence. Strengthening the law is more about punishments and dealing with the way the issue is treated etc, not a lawyer so don't know it's full provisions under our law, but probably come from.a time when the lawcdidnt even recognise domestic violence as a crime in itself. I remember my ex brother in law hitting my sister hecwas a 6ft pub bouncer she is 5ft 2 and had two.kids under 5 with her."

Willtell look back.through the thread...I never said men shouldn't be protected in the law. I simply said that that law would have initially been needed because women weren't getting protection from.violent men. As usual goose is making shit up ....its what he does.

"Debs. I'm not saying what laws should or shouldnt exist. Laws mean nothing to law breakers whether they are speeding,killing or stealing etc. As for men deserving the same protection as women from abusive partners,that should be a given. My Sister has worked for a charity that helps sufferers of domestic abuse and you would be staggered if you knew the amount of men she has seen walking through the door."

Yes okaaaaaaaaaaaay Debz……

Yes okaaaaaaaaaaaay Debz……

Debs you can't have women only laws. Violence is illegal already but the problem is proving one to one violence. How about transgender women? What happens when one lesbian attacks her lesbian partner or wife/husband? It all gets too muddled surely?

Debs you’re denying men the same level of protection based purely on gender

CLUMP A BIRD

"Spot on only1billybonds. When politicians make laws or policies to appease protest groups, they invariably end up being bad laws or policies."

O1bb so.if you have a party that has any power in government that denies the existence of gender based violence towards women how do you think that will help in anyway?. It hardly promotes family values if the men who are pre-disposed to beat a woman up thinks the government are effectively going to turn a blind eye to it. You can't begin to go about fixing a problem.that you think doesn't exist

"Man on woman violence is abhorent but it will still happen whether laws are made or not. If a bloke is enough of a cսnt to clump a bird, then tougher laws wont stop them. Theft,murder,drugs and countless other things are illegal but all and more occur across the world daily. As hard as it is to swallow,some people have a shitload of anger in them and this will be expreesed through violence. If a woman is on the end of it then thats to bad ( in the eyes of the thug ibvs)"

Goose show me where I said that? I clearly stated that their law could be amended to.protect men....so show me the exact post where insaid .men don't need protection where necessary. Stop making stuff up.

Side I think.you need medical.help. Where are all.these long suffering Cockney Tory men that need our protection? You are being beyond ridiculous. Also.where did I.once say that men don't deserve protection in the law if being abused...please show me?

So there’s no need to protect men from domestic violence? Blimey

Yes it would be.....if there wasn't a need for it.it. Maybe if men stopped beating up.women in such large numbers such a law wouldn't have been needed in the first place as clearly such protections didn't exist. Maybe your traditional.family values means going back.to.thise good old days?

Debz your need to have the moral high ground on everything comes from your lefty sway. Except as you’ve shown your morals are only for certain people and not for any tories or as it seems men….cockneys can be giggled at if necessary so you can win and have the feel good factor about yourself….

Being denied protection under law based purely upon you gender sounds a bit bigoted to me.

Well someone has to.look after you cabbage

"Are men a marginalised minority in Spain? They are looking to.repeal.and replace with a new law. Given they openly deny the existence of gender based violence against women,. it'll be intriguing to see jow much or how little protection they give to females as they seem.to.thi k.its the men that are at risk."

Debs wants chubby Gregg's sosige roll eaters protektid

"Again Debs, nothing is being repealed - only broadened to protect everyone. Unless you think minorities don’t deserve the same protection under law as the majority?"

Side this has fuck.all.to.do.with politics in relation to.your obsession with left v right. Cockneyr or not...facts are facts. ..and the fact is where you are from.in the country doesn't protect you from.discrimination on class grounds. Should it? That's a different question . ...but as you despise the left wing so much you'd probably say no.