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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

* what the bulk.of them.want

"Darlo I wasn't defending Vox. They're clearly arseholes. Just suggesting that like in the US and indeed most western countries, the left is happy to pass laws that make women less safe and reduce their opportunities when it comes to men claiming they're women and then cry about the right implementing policies reducing the safety and opportunities of women. Mickey - this is THE culture wars thread. Keep up mate. O1BB This is already happening in the UK, if a bloke who says he's a man (on arrest) claims to be a women then he is recorded in crime statistics as being a woman. The number of reported rapes committed by women in the UK has gone up exponentially in the last decade. Technically if a woman 'assists' a man rape someone then she's deemed to have committed the offence. However, that used to be rare as hen's teeth. Now there are multiple records of women raping people. These stats are then used by trans lobby as example that woman are somehow as much as threat as men in terms of sexual offences when actually 99% of sexual offences are committed by men. It's insane. That's your real answer to your question."

"O1bb yes I think.that is probably. Want the bulk.of them.want, along with a bit of legal.support if they find themselves discriminated against for jobs, housing etc..which isn't unreasonable. ."

"Debs. Not aiming this at you but this scenario is where the arguement falls flat on its arse. The activists will insist on a person who has a beard and balls be called a woman if he so chooses to go that way but i dont think many of thes trans activists would call it girl on girl violence. fwiw, i think the genuine trans people just want to be left alone to live their lives, the activits are the ones who create all the agro."

"Oh great, another fucking culture wars thread"

01bb in all.hinesty I think k.itd be whatever the legal charge would be...common assault?.gbh depending on severity...not a lawyer so don't know where that line is drawn

Fifth I take your point but there are people on here that can hardly support family values on the one hand and a party that barely recognises violence towards women on the other. Then claim.to.tale the feminist moral.ground on.trans issues. Vox by the way also.want to.take away women's abortion rights..

Fair enough debs. I strongly suspect that your answer would be the common one among those supporting the trans movement. ie. Just ignore anything that suggests its all bollox.

Slightly going back on topic (which has been raised here)... in Spain they very recently passed a law which basically meant that blokes who say they are women have to be treated as women in all circumstances and it's hate speech to say they're not or to bar them from female spaces. That is a danger to women and was passed by the left wing government. The left (I mean political parties) think anyone in the population who disagrees with them on this is a bigot. And then they lose close elections. The Spanish left can't complain about the right closing gender department when it basically just abolished the concept of sex in law. Twats.

O1bb I don't know....you'd have to ask.them.

You clearly know fuck.all.about how these things work goose. Governments have various instruments of enforcing or not enforcing the law. For example instructing the police not to come down hard on demonstrators etc. The message will be clear regarding how to treat cases of domestic violence your naivete is shocking.

This thread has gone from Woke Watch is yet another to have turned basically to political argument and certain people just abusing each other with an apparent masochistic fervour. ABUSE ME ABUSE ME. I love WHO.

"I'll try again. When a bloke identifies as a woman, the trans activists insist that this person be classed as a woman. If this 'woman' batters a (real) woman, would this be seen as an attack on a woman by a man by the trans lot?"

Vox aren’t the police you dimwit. There are laws protecting people from violence which the police are employed to enforce. unless you’re suggesting they’re legalising domestic violence?

Master I didn't bring up.the issue..

People of Spain have spoken. Fuck all to do with anyone else.

Bruuno.you are all.over the place.....if you are wanting equality then why support a party wanting to get rid of a department that promotes equality ? Oibb how is that relevant to.Vos's apparent family values?

Goose this is like trying explain things to.a five year old. If Vox don't acknowledge that extent or barely even this existence violence towards women then In what world do.you think they will lean on law enforcement to take it seriously?.or in what world do.you think they'll do anything to.protect women to get away from such scenarios with their children? How many men do.you think will be killed each week compared to women through domestic violence? Now where were we with their family values again?

And ag at debs mocking someone’s intellect!

"Debs. Whats your view on the question i asked? Genuinely interested in how those on the (cultural,not real) left feel about this."

"Debs. Whats your view on the question i asked? Genuinely interested in how those on the (cultural,not real) left feel about this."

I like the cut of vox’s jib. There should be laws against domestic violence that cover both sexes equally. We are living in times of equality after all

Women aren’t the only people in families. A law that protects everyone from domestic violence seems pretty fair to me.

Goose You really aren't getting it are you. ... when insaid Prawn sandwich it seemed I overestimated you. They deny the existence and severity of gender based violence towards women...so tell me again about their family values. O1bb .....one of my best mates at uni was trans ...I wouldn't have fancied my chances....for a stat she was nearly a foot taller

Women are more likely to suffer domestic abuse but that doesn’t mean you need gender specific laws. Violence requires equal punishment no matter your gender.