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"85 million !?! Lol, if we get that I'd piss myself Bloke was fucking terrible today, showboating twat"

Hammer and Pickle 12:07 Tue Jun 4 Yeah and there is no similar thing like this happening ever.. oh yeah the Post Office that went well didn't it .

Fine him half a million and get him to do a JOKEY ad for Paddy Power taking the piss out of himself with any fee going to charity. Move on

"i'm choosing to put aside any rational deduction and rally the horses. the dream is that he swerves a conviction because it can't be proven, but becomes a toxic asset to any possible buyers and as a result shows undying loyalty to the club that stuck by him, becomes pivotal in our league winning form and every cսnt outside of WHU pisses and moans about having a bloke who fiddled our sponser out of 100 bags leading the way."

"Are these new details?... apparently 60 people placed bets of between £7 and £400 and winnings totalled £100,000. He could have just shared a weeks wages out! The FA want to ban him for life... not going to end well is it."

This is an example of the FA being woke? Blimey! What is woke?

"It was the timing of the charges announcement that made me suspicious. Why did the useless cunts have to do it the day out new manager was announced? All seems a bit personal to me, and for what he's alleged to have done, pretty much speculative bollocks. But what do you expect from such a fucking woke, corrupt, tinpot fucking organisation"

"It wouldn't surprise me if this rumbles on for a while. The FA can't deal with two things at once and they are desperately trying to sweep the 115 charges on Man city under the carpet. This is the perfect storm to do that as like others have said, this is probably the tip of the iceberg and will now take up all their resource."

I fully expect Paqueta to be found guilty if only for the reason that surely the FA must have evidence of collusion between him and those placing the bets otherwise I don't see how it would have progressed this far. What I don't understand though is why it is seen as the far more damaging charge of match fixing. I can't see how his actions could influence the outcome of matches... had he been sent off I can see the argument but that didn't happen?

Given this has dragged on for almost a year with no resolution the club should be suing the FA for the £85m transfer fee with Paqueta suing them for the Man City contract they have jeopardised

"I looked back at the Grobelaar case, and although a good number of years ago, there was evidence that he took a bribe. He claimed he took it to gather evidence but that sounds more than a bit fishy. Supposedly his attempts didn’t end up changing the result of matches so was cleared of match fixing, but there were apparent efforts to do just that. Fast forward to the Paqueta case, and without any clear evidence of wrongdoing to our knowledge, the FA want to ban him for life (if you believe the media sensationalism) for picking up a couple of yellow cards that have not altered the result of any game. Doesn’t feel at all right to me. Like I say, if he’s guilty it should be a criminal fraud case, not a match fixing civil case where a couple of FA cronies decide if he is guilty and any subsequent punishment."

"I have a horrible feeling this is just a colossal shitburg with the player at the visible tip being framed to cover up years of corruption involving FA officials, club employees and betting companies. It absolutely reeks to high heaven."

"That was my thinking too, Ron. If it is as bad as the FA charge implies it to be, then it really should be more of a Police matter. Until then, this just looks all a bit amateurish trying to prove him guilty of something that's not all that obvious (from the info we know of). I hope Paquetas Lawyers tie the GA up in knots and embarrass them if they really have shoddy circumstantial ""evidence""."

Either there is a causal link and he's guilty or they can prove a > 50% probability that they can give credence to based upon un biased analysis of data. The second is harder as analysing data is notoriously hard and you only have to give alternative data that might suggest another description of events.

"The FA has set itself up as prosecutor, judge and jury in its own case. It won’t present evidence there was unusual betting activity nor show what connection there is to Paqueta other than he was carded. They are out of control, are taking the piss and need to be brought into line by the legal system."

"Your logic is ok, Rossal, but if they had hard evidence they would, I assume, pursue a criminal charge and put him in front of a jury. Instead, it is a civil case where three people decide his fate. Is it right that three people can potentially decide a man’s career based on their assumption that he is involved?"

"The only person who can guarantee Paqueta gets booked is the referee, I’m assuming that the video evidence of each offence will be looked at thoroughly and judged on whether any were worthy of booking the player. Standard of refereeing is so shit and could give an opportunity as to whether there should even have been a booking. As has been mentioned, if it was a relative’s or friends benefit you’re trying to achieve, why would you wait until the 93rd minute?"

"The only person who can guarantee Paqueta gets booked is the referee, I’m assuming that the video evidence of each offence will be looked at thoroughly and judged on whether any were worthy of booking the player. Standard of refereeing is so shit and could give an opportunity as to whether there should even have been a booking. As has been mentioned, if it was a relative’s or friends benefit you’re trying to achieve, why would you wait until the 93rd minute?"

The Bournemouth one is strange Was expecting/hoping to be subbed early and leaves the booking to the 93rd minute? Surely you’d get it done in the first hour at least as that would make you more likely to be subbed early as well Throw this nonsense out

Alfs 8:18 Mon Jun 3 Well I would guess the people of Paqueta island are not drowning in cash so doubt they would have the money to spunk needed to move the odds like the way they were moved I would also guess that they don't reguarly use Betway out there So putting those things together along with the 4 cards in question which all look reckless/deliberate at best then as i say.....lets hope they just can't prove it

"*’umble, actually."

His Lawyers only want more time so they can help him flee the Country from Old Bill... https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5537311/2024/06/03/lucas-paqueta-betting-breaches-charge-response/

"In my ‘unblemished, and I’m ready to be corrected if I’m wrong, the more debate we have about the standard of refereeing we have in the context of the Paqueta Affair, the better for him and the club and the worse for the FA and the bookies."

"Rossal 6:31 Mon Jun 3 Or, during the summer break he's on his Island having dinner with a few of his mates and he says ""The refs in England are terrible, you get booked for the tiniest of things. I'll probably have 20 yellow cards before Christmas""."

Tim having trouble? Stick to Europe and homegrown.

The club appears to be experiencing unusual headwinds when it comes to agreeing personal terms with Brazilian players in this transfer window. How very unfortunate.