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We'll give this as go as a single thread this time and see what preference is:


Match Centre:



Odds:

West Ham: 19/20

Draw: 29/10

Wolves: 3/1


Pre-Match Press Conference:

https://www.youtube.com/live/HSpgiiXnx1M

Tactical Preview: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sbCANrPY8M


Watch-along:

https://www.youtube.com/live/gUHRhZoBgYI


Streams:


https://sporthd.live/match/slg-onl-West ... q5XimsdogT


(With all live streams be mindful they can carry viruses etc.  Don't click on any ads and use a VPN).

  

                     Fab 

AWB   Todibo   Kilman   Emerson 

           Alvarez Paqueta 

Bowen   Paqueta   Summerville 

              Kudus 

Fullkrug will likely come on a bit earlier though or start and be replaced on 60 mins as he will not be anywhere near fitness levels needed for the Premiership imo.

Loppy is supposedly a defensive coach tasked with making us an attacking team, integrating 9 players and getting us back into Europe.  A very tall order but offered millions he took it so you get what you deserve as they say.

But a couple of things we perhaps forget. How did it ever get to needing 9 new players? Moyes is part of that problem.   And as Chelsea and Forest showed in the last few seasons, recruiting and trying to integrate a lot of new players takes time. Only this season, do they seem to be getting things right which is what Season 3 or 4 for them and a few managerial casualties later.  

And who was not seeing that Loppy was famed for his defensive prowess and expecting him to implement attack minded `football with high possession?  The Sullivan factor again ?

On Monday, Lop has to revert to more defensive play, we simply let in ridiculous amounts of goals.  That means a back 4 and 3 midfielders.  The fact we have no legs or pace in midfield also makes it a necessity or Wolves will sit back and exploit this high line and advanced wing backs tactic that pretty much every team has that we've played.   

And up front Bowen is wasted centrally.  Try Kudus as a false 9 centrally until Fullkrug is ready to come on.  Simply cannot waste him out on the left.  And place Paqueta deeper again. Yes it didnt work against Arsenal but did look reasonable against Newcastle.   

None of this might improve us but he has to do something more sensible that this attempt at gung ho high lines and attack with a team that is as slow as Dad's Army in the middle of the park.

The set up he had at Leicester will see us struggle and Wolves have the excellent Cunha who will expose our back 3

Soler Soucek Paqueta 

Bowen Fullkrug Kudus

That forward line for me if they're bang on it has the potential to be frightening, that could actually ruin some Clubs defences in the League, with a supporting cast of creative goal scorers behind them.

So let's fucking see it then......

Have to say I'd very much like to see Kudus played through the middle. 

He's got the best dribbling stats in world football pretty much for successful take ons....but doing that from deep means it often comes to nothing.   Against the last defender that takes on a different lens.  Plus he's much harder to knock off the ball than Bowen.

Not convinced he's got the passing skills to play as an 8, but again his ball carrying skills and strength of allied to Soler's passing could be a good thing, as long as he had the discipline to do the defensive work.

He's a bit of a quandary of a player if not playing wide right.

Agreed - start Fulkrug. He should be motivated enough - I don't really care whether it's to revive his career with us or to put himself in the shop window. I would also start Todibo if he's fit. I'm actually impressed by the fact he's got the balls to criticise the manager to his face for his questionable tactics. The only uncertainties for me are whether to play Kudus in midfield or out left and whether or not to play Summerville, who still isn't really doing enough.

I think it has to be Fullkrug starting after making such a big impact in the last game. He looked lively during that time and seemed able to get about OK without much issue. If we can't start him now, when can we..


 

Gonna be interesting to see who starts up top. 

Would clearly have been Antonio before today's disaster.

Now we have the ineffective Bowen, injured Ings unfit Fullkrug, and untried Kudus.

Guessing it will be Bowen and they won't risk Fullkrug from the start.
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It wasn't pretty...

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/wolverh ... on_id/2023

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.skys ... t-molineux

I'd fuck them off too if that was their idea of supporting me in the summer transfer window.

 

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 11:59

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 11:55

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 11:53 If it was Lopetegui, surely he would have been booted out already and not given at least another 2 games straight after? They wouldn't keep him in post if it was him that caused the fight, especially off the back of poor form as well. It wouldn't make sense.

We're talking about West Ham chaired by David Sullivan, here, MA.

If rumours (and they are just that, of course) are to be believed, it sounds like he sought a replacement for Lopetegui last week - and was rejected because it was a cheapskate offer.

That's nothing new. Sullivan's always doing that, just as he had Lopetegui rocking up the London Stadium whilst Moyes was still in charge. And he'll continue to do shit like that for as long as he's Chairman because he's the ring leader at this Circus.

Broken promises are ever-present in football.

Almost any manager could cite that as an excuse for leaving a job. It could be that they were 'only' given £20m to spend and not the £30m they were "promised". Or it could be that the chairman indicated the manager "might" get a new wage deal at the end of the season - and didn't get an offer because the finances deteriorated. Etc. etc. The list is endless.

Honestly, almost every manager who ever lived could probably give you a sob story about so-called broken promises. When I hear it, I generally switch off. It's a bit like a bad workman blaming his tools. Everybody was a bit shocked when Lopetegui walked from Wolves. He'd done well there, and was valued by club and fans. Which I think calls into question his own judgement.

southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 11:55

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 11:53 If it was Lopetegui, surely he would have been booted out already and not given at least another 2 games straight after? They wouldn't keep him in post if it was him that caused the fight, especially off the back of poor form as well. It wouldn't make sense.

We're talking about West Ham chaired by David Sullivan, here, MA.

If rumours (and they are just that, of course) are to be believed, it sounds like he sought a replacement for Lopetegui last week - and was rejected because it was a cheapskate offer.

I don't know the truth of any of this: it's possible Todibo has been disruptive at West Ham. I wouldn't rule anything out. But that would include Lopetegui being part of the problem.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 11:53 If it was Lopetegui, surely he would have been booted out already and not given at least another 2 games straight after? They wouldn't keep him in post if it was him that caused the fight, especially off the back of poor form as well. It wouldn't make sense.

If it was Lopetegui, surely he would have been booted out already and not given at least another 2 games straight after? They wouldn't keep him in post if it was him that caused the fight, especially off the back of poor form as well. It wouldn't make sense.

As for leaving Wolves (without the need to fight anyone), he was more than entitled too walk away from them after broken promises. I saw nothing wrong with that situation and he was justified.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑07 Dec 2024, 11:11 Nope. If he's a disruptive troublemaker then he needs launching out the Club. He's got previous for doing it, so he can fuck off elsewhere if he can't behave.

Can't quite believe I'm saying this as the geezer gives me kittens but I'd rather go with Mavropanos until the window re-opens.

Thing is if they stop this ridiculously highline nonsense Mavropanos can be alright at the back. He just has the turning circle of an oil tanker and the speed of Noble on ketamine.

Defend more mid-block should do it I reckon. Or fuck it, chuck the boy Casey in instead but not Todibo if he's still on one which apparently he is.

Nope. If he's a disruptive troublemaker then he needs launching out the Club. He's got previous for doing it, so he can fuck off elsewhere if he can't behave.

Can't quite believe I'm saying this as the geezer gives me kittens but I'd rather go with Mavropanos until the window re-opens.

Thing is if they stop this ridiculously highline nonsense Mavropanos can be alright at the back. He just has the turning circle of an oil tanker and the speed of Noble on ketamine.

Defend more mid-block should do it I reckon. Or fuck it, chuck the boy Casey in instead but not Todibo if he's still on one which apparently he is.

I think we need Todibo to play. Cunha for them is quick and the thought of Kilman and Stavros trying to keep up with him makes me shudder.  

Soucek went missing against Leicester and we cannot risk playing Coufal again surely?  Paqueta has to be played deeper again. He was not good at it against Arsenal but had his best game ( only decent one for ages ) against the Barcodes in the deeper role.

Id stick Antonio out wide with Summerville coming on when he’s knackered 2nd half.  He can still bulldoze his way thru against less physical full backs. His crosses can go anywhere but he still has the ability to get in behind teams.  

The biggest problem is that Wolves like Leicester will sit deep and let us have possession. They will be compact and pack the box and we struggle to break those teams down hence the Antonio wide role. Bowen has to play wide right and let Kudus play centrally as a false 9. His preferred area and allows him to turn and run. He may be up to fitness this game as he was obviously rusty against Leicester.

————-— Fab ———-
AWB—-Todibo-—Kilman—-Emerson
———- Alvarez ———— Paqueta
————————-Soler—————
Bowen———-Kudus————Antonio

Not confident but hopefully we dont play the suicidal high line with AWB as the most advanced player.  
 

For those that love a superstition/stat, West Ham have won 8 out of our past 9 Monday night matches under the lights. The only defeat was v Arsenal in 2022!

Our next 2 fixtures are both on a Monday night.
 

Most thought we would beat Leicester. All being even we win, but things are not even and who knows if the players are still really up for it, because the Wolves players will be, we can be sure of that. See some are saying they don't care etc but I'm pretty intrigued to see how it plays out and how we react. Just a fucking pain it's Monday again. Cunts.

As for the side, who cares.

Why is this dago clown still in charge? Doesnt matter what team El Wanker puts out, he has lost all the players.

Fabianski

Wan-bissaka Casey Kilman Emerson 

Soler Soucek Paqueta

Bowen Fullkrug Kudus 

3-2

Strap in!

Fabianski

AWB
Casey
Kilman
Emerson

Soler
Orford
Soucek/Paqueta

Bowen
Kudus
Summerville

 

As much as i say i can't be arsed, it's not true, actually pisses me off that our results do affect my day, win and i have a spring in my step, lose and im a bit fucked off with things, crazy really the club wouldn't give a shit about me, or any one fan really!

Line up is anyone's guess, expect those who have fallen out (rumored) with the Spaniard wont figure, well from KO at least, so that's 4 or 5 regulars not starting!

Expect us to win this one though, not that it will change much, just means Lopi is here for a bit longer, if however, we do lose or draw even he needs his cards the following morning.

2-0 and the big Kraut gets on the scoresheet again.

COYI



 

2-1 soucek late winner (header)
or it could be a right old bumming
​​​​so dont put any bets on as i havent got the score right in 40 odd years 
honky x 

First time in memory I couldn't give a fuck what team he puts out or how it goes.  I'm so fucked off with it.