May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.
Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?
Window this close season comes in two parts:
Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September
twoleftfeet wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 08:51
The easiest thing would be to do to Paqueta what we did to Rice, agree to let him go at the end of the season in return for one more season. Let’s see if it motivates the lazy, diving Brazilian.
If you think he's lazy (he clearly isn't) why the fuck do you want him for another season you dopey cսnt
Oh bless you for being slow and retarded
Have a lovely day little man x
Don't understand saying Paqueta is lazy. He always puts in a shift, unfortunately often a headless chicken shift, but he aint lazy. Two goals in 2 games is promising, I really think he is on his way back to being the player he was with us in his 1st year.
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 08:20
we're not skint, stubbo. please stop with the bullshit. as inconsistent as he's been, losing another senior player this late is unforgivable, and I pray now for a burnley2. It's the least these cunts deserve
We have PSR headroom but that doesn't mean we have Cash in the bank or that we don't have a storm brewing. This is the last year Declan's transfer sits on the books, balancing last year's spend up out.
Next year, that 100m of revenue vanishes and the reality of us still owing transfer fees of more than a hundred million bites with little to off set it.
Pretty sure it's why we've been culling wages this year. The need for a big sale each year is simply reality...not for us, but for all clubs in the league. Because you get revenue on the books in year one, but you don't get all the cash in year one. And the debt you accrue is spread.
PSR is fucked up. Were affected like many others...especially Villa who are you against it. We don't have PSR concerns this season....but I think you might find it's a different story next season.
I think it rewards smart forward thinking owners who strive for a sensible sustainable player trading and good scouting and player development and actually is a good set of guidelines to point clubs toward that- and it’s not exactly handicapping ‘small’ clubs with smart football administrators at the helm with several able to punch well above their weight.
It penalises idiot backward owners like ours who are unable to formulate any long term or sensible/sustainable plans. It’s Sullivan’s absolute kryptonite for his ‘business model’.
It does mean all clubs need to make tough decisions on selling players they may ideally want to keep but to an extent it prevents stockpiling of talent.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 09:51
by stubbo-admin
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 09:21
Based on what we’ve seen of Paqueta last 2 seasons and even 3 games of this season ( after bet fix allegations cleared ) he is losing the ball far too often and struggling with the lack of time and space. But thats imo because he’s not played in his best position deeper as an 8. Potter, like Moyes and Loppy did a few times, have this notion that because he’s creative with passes thru the lines and ability to chip balls thru etc, that he has to be a no 10 attacking midfielder. His best form ever was at Lyon as a deeper lying midfielder. He doesnt have the pace to play on the half turn or carry the ball. He likes a bit more time and tries to protect the ball and gets that more with the play in front of him and not with his back to goal. With Fernandes and Magassa coming in he could be one to rotate with Fernandes who also is more of a number 8 although can play as a 10. So imo we need another midfielder who is good at running at defences in the number 10 role to create chances, score goals etc. Timber seems the ideal fit from what we read and video clips. His big issue has been injuries or he would be at a top CL level team I suspect.
Long story short, sell him if we can get a proper attacking midfielder like this Tomber geezer. Itherwise he stays
Much as I dislike the football, he's actually currently our best. Number 9 for what Potter is trying to do.
Losing him is like losing 4 player options from the squad...a number 8, 9, 10 and a wide left attacker.
His versatility, ball recovery, progressive passing and general talismanic role within the squad and the Club are all things that are not easily replaced.
twoleftfeet wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 08:51
The easiest thing would be to do to Paqueta what we did to Rice, agree to let him go at the end of the season in return for one more season. Let’s see if it motivates the lazy, diving Brazilian.
If you think he's lazy (he clearly isn't) why the fuck do you want him for another season you dopey cսnt
Oh bless you for being slow and retarded
Have a lovely day little man x
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 09:21
by Sir Alf
Based on what we’ve seen of Paqueta last 2 seasons and even 3 games of this season ( after bet fix allegations cleared ) he is losing the ball far too often and struggling with the lack of time and space. But thats imo because he’s not played in his best position deeper as an 8. Potter, like Moyes and Loppy did a few times, have this notion that because he’s creative with passes thru the lines and ability to chip balls thru etc, that he has to be a no 10 attacking midfielder. His best form ever was at Lyon as a deeper lying midfielder. He doesnt have the pace to play on the half turn or carry the ball. He likes a bit more time and tries to protect the ball and gets that more with the play in front of him and not with his back to goal. With Fernandes and Magassa coming in he could be one to rotate with Fernandes who also is more of a number 8 although can play as a 10. So imo we need another midfielder who is good at running at defences in the number 10 role to create chances, score goals etc. Timber seems the ideal fit from what we read and video clips. His big issue has been injuries or he would be at a top CL level team I suspect.
Long story short, sell him if we can get a proper attacking midfielder like this Tomber geezer. Itherwise he stays
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 08:56
by fraser
twoleftfeet wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 08:51
The easiest thing would be to do to Paqueta what we did to Rice, agree to let him go at the end of the season in return for one more season. Let’s see if it motivates the lazy, diving Brazilian.
If you think he's lazy (he clearly isn't) why the fuck do you want him for another season you dopey cսnt
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 08:51
by twoleftfeet
The easiest thing would be to do to Paqueta what we did to Rice, agree to let him go at the end of the season in return for one more season. Let’s see if it motivates the lazy, diving Brazilian.
Yup. The time for projects was two years ago for them to be coming to fruition now. Sullivan just can’t work in those timeframes. It seems. Unable to think past the next six months or spend money he won’t see some sort of return on in that space.
There have been countless opportunities to invest in young talent. Moyes was hugely at fault for this, never thinking past the immediate.
The big thing I was hoping for from Potter and the reason I assume he and Macaulay were hired was for us to be shopping in the ‘potential’ pool. They haven’t had a chance yet seen as it’s been panic stations before and the entire time they’ve been here. If we pick up with what we are getting at the last minute now there is still hope that this could come to fruition.
I DESPISE the notion that Sullivan is taking that he’s digging us out of this mess though. He could have gone and got Fernandes for this money a month ago but was pissing about lowballing them to the detriment of his team and manager. All he’s doing is correcting his own mistakes and cheapness at the last possible minute.
But this is our whole problem isn't it, it is never the right time to start a proper visionary project that will look way into the future and establish how we want to play and where we want to go. It is always fire fighting or handing over to some manger we get on the cheap who promised to get us playing great entertaining football, but whom always seem to fuck up and get us close to relegation. When does it stop? How about now? Get a serious management team together and get to work.
Politely, Mex, I disagree completely.
There have been periods when we were well set and SHOULD have started a longer-term plan, with a progressive young manager etc. After Bilic went, for example (before Pellegrini). After Moyes left the second time, for example (before Loppy). After Pards was sacked, even. On each occasion, we had a decent enough core of players - or the money, or both - to be less worried about relegation threats etc.
So, you're right in that sense. That's when you build your club and show some patience. Because you can afford to.
But there have also been occasions when, because the squad has been so poor, or we've been skint, what we've needed was a problem solver. Somebody to make order from chaos, and who can grind out results against better opponents on a tighter budget. And I'd say we're in that place right now.
If we lose to Forest on Sunday (hopefully we won't), I genuinely think Potter should go. Personally, I don't think he's any good - and he's certainly struggling to make order from chaos. But if we sacked him while bottom of the league and shipping almost four goals a game, that is NOT the time to appoint another "project" manager who will need time, money, a clean slate and a long run-up at the job. That is exactly when you appoint a firefighter. Because you're in a relegation fight at that stage, and five-year plans go out of the window unless you build in the possibility that you might spend some of it in the Championship.
We're a really poor side right now. Hopefully, the new lads will improve us.
As Stubbo also said, we need a permanent structure above the manager a proper Director of Football with control of everything and a long term vision now. We cannot keep going like this with Sullivan. I am really pleased that this is the aim of the protests Hammers United are organising.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 08:44
by stubbo-admin
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 08:20
we're not skint, stubbo. please stop with the bullshit. as inconsistent as he's been, losing another senior player this late is unforgivable, and I pray now for a burnley2. It's the least these cunts deserve
We have PSR headroom but that doesn't mean we have Cash in the bank or that we don't have a storm brewing. This is the last year Declan's transfer sits on the books, balancing last year's spend up out.
Next year, that 100m of revenue vanishes and the reality of us still owing transfer fees of more than a hundred million bites with little to off set it.
Pretty sure it's why we've been culling wages this year. The need for a big sale each year is simply reality...not for us, but for all clubs in the league. Because you get revenue on the books in year one, but you don't get all the cash in year one. And the debt you accrue is spread.
PSR is fucked up. Were affected like many others...especially Villa who are you against it. We don't have PSR concerns this season....but I think you might find it's a different story next season.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 08:43
by El Scorchio
*waits patiently for the first story on c+h framing Paqueta as an ungrateful troublemaking cսnt that is performing ‘way below expected levels’ who the angels Sullivan and Brady stuck by through his darkest hours but his disruptive behaviour is tearing the club apart so they were left with no option but to sell/were powerless to keep him.*
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 08:35
by fraser
Steinburg now saying he's staying... Unless something drastic happens... Laugh a minute this club
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 08:34
by goose
We’re not exactly skint but we do have cash flow challenges, hence the need to sell Kudus.
if the budget allows, loan deals with an obligation are a smart way to manage PSR. We did it with Todibo.
question is, do we have the budget to replace Paqueta right now?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 08:25
by fraser
Sullivan is still calling the story bullshit... I just don't get his angle because what is he trying to pull because it all looks so obvious.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 08:20
by Takashi Miike
we're not skint, stubbo. please stop with the bullshit. as inconsistent as he's been, losing another senior player this late is unforgivable, and I pray now for a burnley2. It's the least these cunts deserve
Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 07:42
Mixed feelings about Paqueta going.
Pro sale: hasn't been any good the past two years. Showboat, fiver and loses the ball to often.
Cons sale: going to a PL club, to late to get a decent replacement, leaves us short in midfield, Brady promised not to sell
it's a loan so they don't have to spend any more money this window, and remember the cunts still haven't replaced kudus. we're a certainty for the drop, and jarrod will be the next to go in january
Another loan? Wtf?
Loans at this point aren't really loans though....they're just deferred payment accounting tricks.
With PSR and the way income years 'drop off' but incoming payments tend to get spread you need to keep making big sales. So pushing the income and expenditure out by a year can make sense. It's not really a loan...just a sale where the payment revenue hits the books a year later.
Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 07:42
Mixed feelings about Paqueta going.
Pro sale: hasn't been any good the past two years. Showboat, fiver and loses the ball to often.
Cons sale: going to a PL club, to late to get a decent replacement, leaves us short in midfield, Brady promised not to sell
it's a loan so they don't have to spend any more money this window, and remember the cunts still haven't replaced kudus. we're a certainty for the drop, and jarrod will be the next to go in january
Another loan? Wtf?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 08:08
by honky cat
The other view could be that the club has wanted to get rid of Paq for 2 years for £80m and hasn't been able to because he's been a fucking idiot with this FA business. He was only cleared 2? weeks ago. So there was a limited timeframe to sell and replace before the window closed, and it seems he wants to move - when he owes us a good season.
*I know that's what Sullivan wants me to think.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 07:59
by El Scorchio
I wonder if Emerson has just been causing so much trouble they just want him out no matter what. Sounds like he’s been a real dick since Diouf signed.
As for Paqueta the club are ‘making all the right noises’ publicly but it’s obvious they are a willing party to all this. Other clubs who wanted to keep hold of a wantaway player have managed. Newcastle and Brentford. So I expect us to be able to be similarly strong. Of course we won’t be and the pathetic message will come out that we just ‘couldn’t do anything about it’ while gleefully pocketing a load of money for Sullivan’s retirement fund.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 07:55
by Ron Eff
Nutsin wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 07:25
Paqueta is a showboating liability, gives up way too much possession putting us on the back foot way too often. Saying that we can’t sell now it’s too late. I’d prefer we sell in January preferably to a Saudi club,and sell him for a fair price and bring in the right replacement straight away. String Villa along though so they end up with nobody this window, payback for the Jhon Duran fiasco.
I’m more concerned with our center halves, the only one who can head the ball is Mavropanos ffs and he’s got two left feet. I’d much rather see us sell Aguerd and bring in a replacement this window. Todibo was a bad buy, not sure what his position is but he ain’t a center half. There must be at least one in the Championship we can bring in as an upgrade to Aguerd and who can win a header or two to help our new keeper out surely.
Looks Like we dropped a bollock on the new goalkeeper He Looks like he shits himself every time a cross comes in to our box.
Anyone know how much longer Summerville is out for? And how about Cornet can’t we give him away ffs just get him off our books.
So many fires to put out and still no one who can step in and step up to lead the team, Let’s hope these two kids we just brought in can do an immediate job for us in midfield, can’t fall too far behind the rest.
Still onwards and upwards!
It’s a fair point re Duran. We certainly shouldn’t be looking to do anything at a discount to Villa. Unless the alternative it he’s sold to Spurs!
I hope he hasn’t thrown a tantrum. If he has, it’s difficult to keep him. He plays about enough as it is giving the ball away, without being less motivated.
IF we can get a creative replacement in 24 hours, maybe it is best to get our money back and move on. He’s been ok. Brilliant at times, dreadful at others, but I do like him, and we need mavericks in an otherwise dull, methodical team.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 07:52
by Takashi Miike
Keep dreaming" wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 07:42
Mixed feelings about Paqueta going.
Pro sale: hasn't been any good the past two years. Showboat, fiver and loses the ball to often.
Cons sale: going to a PL club, to late to get a decent replacement, leaves us short in midfield, Brady promised not to sell
it's a loan so they don't have to spend any more money this window, and remember the cunts still haven't replaced kudus. we're a certainty for the drop, and jarrod will be the next to go in january
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 07:45
by honky cat
Ron Eff" wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 07:14
Away from Paqueta, how on earth are we only receiving €700k plus maybe another €300k on add on’s for Emerson?
How can we do such bad business all the time. He has been a good signing for us, is 31, you must still be able to get a few million quid! There is surely league two players going for more at the same age.
I would think he's been let go for a small fee so the player can negotiate a better package with marseille. He could go for free next summer, and now he's off our wage bill. It's a shame as I would have rather kept him this season.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 07:42
by Keep dreaming
Mixed feelings about Paqueta going.
Pro sale: hasn't been any good the past two years. Showboat, fiver and loses the ball to often.
Cons sale: going to a PL club, to late to get a decent replacement, leaves us short in midfield, Brady promised not to sell
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 07:42
by Takashi Miike
the 3ft parasite continues with his self destructive shit
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 Aug 2025, 07:33
by stubbo-admin
Nutsin wrote: ↑31 Aug 2025, 07:25
Paqueta is a showboating liability, gives up way too much possession putting us on the back foot way too often. Saying that we can’t sell now it’s too late. I’d prefer we sell in January preferably to a Saudi club,and sell him for a fair price and bring in the right replacement straight away. String Villa along though so they end up with nobody this window, payback for the Jhon Duran fiasco.
I’m more concerned with our center halves, the only one who can head the ball is Mavropanos ffs and he’s got two left feet. I’d much rather see us sell Aguerd and bring in a replacement this window. Todibo was a bad buy, not sure what his position is but he ain’t a center half. There must be at least one in the Championship we can bring in as an upgrade to Aguerd and who can win a header or two to help our new keeper out surely.
Looks Like we dropped a bollock on the new goalkeeper He Looks like he shits himself every time a cross comes in to our box.
Anyone know how much longer Summerville is out for? And how about Cornet can’t we give him away ffs just get him off our books.
So many fires to put out and still no one who can step in and step up to lead the team, Let’s hope these two kids we just brought in can do an immediate job for us in midfield, can’t fall too far behind the rest.
Still onwards and upwards!
Summerville in full training. Should be back after the international break. Though doesn't fit the system.
Cornet...Genoa want him, but only offering 33% of his wages. Club holding out for more.
