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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

*.homophobic ...bloody phone

You are changing your argument goose. You said gay is a lifestyle choice .it clearly isn't and to make that statement is hemophilia and bigoted. You can believe in the tooth fairy for all.i care. It doesn't mean you are right nor does it mean it cannot be open to criticism..

"And what if non-hetero sexual orientation is a choice? Or there happens to be an element of free will in it? Does that make it equal and relativised by the choice to hate gays or trans people? Of course it doesn’t - whether it is a choice or not, we are free to be what we are, and hating anyone is just a sign we are in trouble."

I suppose since it was realised the few might well die if they didn’t take a small measure to very minorly inconvenience the many.

Again with the hysteria Debs. Not agreeing with something isn’t hateful or hating them. Believing in the traditional family structure isn’t hateful towards gays.

Out of a few hundred people turning up here for a few days of back slapping peanuts are banned from site and the menus have had to be changed for one kid. Since when did the needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many?

Except your view is bigoted because being gay isn't a lifestyle choice so you believe in hating on a group.of people that have no control.of what they are. You can choose to to not be hateful .

Len.i. can't presume to.know who.or what he knows. My.points still stand. Questioning bigotry in religion is not bigotry. That goes for any religion. As you know I have Jewish heritage. Some of their rules are very sexist. If they want to.practice them fine where it doesn't impact on others outside that faith or physically would do .harm.to girls. The bigotry comes when you use parts of their faith to excuse hatred for an entire group.of people. As was done in Northern Ireland against Catholics for example. Goose would know this and is trying some Surf style twisting of an argument to bully others. It's just making him.look.like a hypocritical.tit.

"Debs there’s nothing to stop people sinning. They are given the opportunity to repent for those sins. But being gay isn’t something you can continually repent for, it’s a lifestyle choice. If that’s you then crack on but it doesn’t change what’s in the bible. I have my views and you have yours. Difference is I don’t label ppl bigots because they don’t agree with me. I’m not trying to push my views onto others and force them to accept it."

Debs The point is Willtell claim to personally know of Muslims who etc etc. He doesn't. He made that up.

* choir boys

"Goose plenty of catholics break the rules of Catholicism.and still still count themselves as Catholics. Priests who.rape choir's for example. Where is that acceptable in the Bible? Are you seriously going to claim.there aren't Catholic men and women who don't have pre-marital sex ? Or that there are Catholic men who don't abuse female family members then force them.to have abortions? Expecting people in the here and now to live by the strict moral.codes that used such bigotry a means of social.control over thousands that couldn't even read or question.those rules is bizarre. Taken to.its natural.conclusion we'd still be stoning people for being unfaithful. ( some do yes and would you not think that terrible?, but by your argument its just being consistent with the faith) Believe what you want as religious freedom.is a protected status in terms of you not being discriminated against but that doesn't mean your religion.or any other doesn't teach views that arent bigoted and nor does it mean it is bigoted to question them. If they fly in the face of our equality laws or where the two conflict then the.outcome gets tested in court."

Once again Willtell makes a cսnt of himself.

Once again Willtell makes a cսnt of himself.

If they’re doing those things then they aren’t a practicing Muslim. Try popping down the local mosque with your boyfriend and see how that goes down.

"Morning Pointy - fancy updating us on your latest thoughts on me, 360 and the priest?"

"Willtell ""I've known some Muslims get drunk, have gay relationships and eat bacon sarnies"" No you haven't you old bollocks merchant"

"Where as signing off with LIAR, BIGOT RACIST & KNOBHEAD is the sign of victory? You’re all over the shop Will. Jumping into the Farage story without actually reading the details, calling people racist for pointing out the teachings of the Quran, and calling me a bigot for holding a religious view. Is that what ‘winning’ looks like?"

"Willtell Explain how my clearly exposing the fallacy in your logic and thus rendering your argument nonsensical constitutes me losing the argument. Again, you can use symbols if you need to. Incidentally, you do understand how this whole thing works, yes? There are other viewers of this thread who can see you are making an idiot of yourself. Just ploughing ahead and pretending you are right in spite of clear evidence that you are wrong doesn't make me or any of them think you are less dim-witted. Rather the contrary, I would guess. H&P does this as well, which is why he is the site idiot."

Yup! When you lose an argument calling your opponent a rapist is an excuse for being wrong as well as lying. Who’s taken over your user name Surf? You used to be accurate but has senility got to you lately?

"How’s everyone getting on in this heat? Just put the bins out and came back drenched. It’s unrelenting isn’t it? Might follow the advice from one of the papers a few years back, plant some very quick growing trees for shade, (will they grow in these parched conditions?), failing that an umbrella can keep heatstroke at bay."

Yup go and let the family out of the basement Will. Your work here is done lol.

"False premise. He didn't suggest for a moment that every Muslim agreed with him. In general, Muslims do agree with him. Nor did he mention bacon sandwiches at all, so non sequitur there. And since you are clearly no expert, drinking alcohol is a very small sin in Islam. You are a hypocritical, unprincipled rapist who doesn't understand how logic works."

Anyway I'm getting bored playing with you cretins now and I've got a family that want to go out...

"""What he did was expose you as having double standards - gooses views are bigoted, Muslims' identical views are not bigoted."" ------------------------------------ It would be racist and bigoted to assume that every every Muslim believes that gay marriage and adoption is wrong. I've known some Muslims get drunk, have gay relationships and eat bacon sarnies. It really is that simple Surface you silly old sod..."