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If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 07 Apr 2024, 17:00
by Barty
Thomas Tuchel might be availeble soon and I rate him even though it hasnt been rosey with Bayern... Over to you

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 23:58
by twoleftfeet
You are such a moron vexed.

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 23:55
by RBshorty
Get Everton to throw a few bags on the Log guy. It’s bound too help them out.?

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 23:51
by Alfs
"You can get 12s for Armorim atm, which are the best odds I've seen since his name came up. Lopetegui still 2/1 fav, Fonesca 6s."

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 21:44
by Vexed
"There are two non negotiable things I want to happen. 1) Moyes to be fucked off out of the club regardless of how bad a replacement might be. 2) Aguerd is fucked off out of the club shortly after, the fucking snide bottlejob cսnt."

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 19:13
by Nagel
"The U21s started playing 3 at the back the year before Steidten came along. Don't know why. Maybe there was a glut of CBs coming through the ranks? Yes, Paqueta and Alvarez would be my preferred two, but that leaves a lot of CMs on the bench. I agree that Bowen would be better on the left than Kudus, but he'd still clearly be a less effective goal threat than he is on the right. The CBs you mentioned are probably better suited to the back 3, but it still means more backups are required. Just seems like even more squad players will be needed than we do already. More importantly perhaps, if Amorim didn't work out, how many top managers to replace him would also prefer playing a back 3? Not many, that's for sure. We could end up with another lopsided squad that requires another major rebuild all over again. It's just a bad idea."

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 18:33
by stubbo
"Tend to agree Nagel, although it's notable that Steidten switched the youth to playing 3-4-3 at all levels below the first team I believe? In a 3-4-3, There's no reason Paqueta and Alvarez couldn't be your two. Paqueta is tenacious enough to play deep, and you could argue is better with the pitch in front of him. He's physical enough to compete in the air, and not afraid to put a tackle in. I'm surprised we've not tried Bowen on the left wing at some point. He has always seemed someone capable of shifting both ways whereas Kudus is clearly prefers to play on the right and cut inside all the time...I suspect the balance would have been better with Bowen left and Kudus right (which would also open up Bowen's options for England more too, given the left side is much less nailed down). in a 3-4-3, Aguerd starts to look a more viable player. Mavropanos fits in on the right side, and even Zouma could remain when flanked by the two more mobile players. Agree re Fullbacks...neither is really suited, although Emerson is at least viable, and Cornet played LWB for PSG previously and is another option. Johnson has looked better on the ball of late so could be a consideration, but I'd expect we'd want more pace on both flanks at full back ultimately. But something like this I believe could legitimately work with our current squad: ---------------------------Areola -------Mavropanos---Zouma---Aguerd Johnson-------Alvarez------Paqueta------Emerson -----------Kudus-------Antonio------Bowen Definitely no place for Soucek or JWP though."

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 18:13
by ray winstone
"After Amorim, Lopetegui also refuses West Ham and only wants Milan https://www.abola.pt/futebol/noticias/depois-de-amorim-lopetegui-tambem-recusa-west-ham-e-so-quer-o-milan-2024042916365278465"

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 18:13
by ray winstone
"After Amorim, Lopetegui also refuses West Ham and only wants Milan https://www.abola.pt/futebol/noticias/depois-de-amorim-lopetegui-tambem-recusa-west-ham-e-so-quer-o-milan-2024042916365278465"

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 18:10
by Nagel
"If it's true that Liverpool didn't want Amorim because of his insistence on sticking with his favoured 343 formation that really doesn't bode well for us if he does come here. We'll have a glut of central midfielders - Alvarez, JWP, Soucek, Downes, Irving and Potts - all vying for just 2 places. Even if Paqueta stays would Amorim want him as a CM? He prefers more defensive minded players in his midfield pairing. Anyone want him back at LW? Thought not. There won't be a No 10 role so Kudus will have to be a back up to Bowen or play at LW, which would be a shocking waste of his talents. Our full backs are either too old to run up and down as wing backs or in the case of Emerson prefer to cut inside rather than stay wide. We'd need more CBs, not just better ones. That's not even mentioning the quality players we're already lacking in at LW and CF. Whatever formation we play we'll need quite a few new players but for a 343 we'd need a really serious squad rebuild. Even if Steidten worked wonders in the transfer market, it's never a good thing having a new manager working with a bunch of players who don't know each other, as you've seen recently at clubs like Chelsea."

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 18:01
by Hammer and Pickle
"The Portuguese source I’ve found talks of Amorim and Fonseca as top of West Ham’s wanted list (also Tuchel). Still all rather speculative atm, I’d say https://bolanarede.pt/especial-bola-na-rede/ultima-hora/ruben-amorim-continua-no-topo-da-lista-do-west-ham-mas-ha-mais-dois-candidatos-e-um-e-portugues/"

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:50
by BillyJenningsBoots
British is best What makes you so sure Lopetegu isnt getting the job?

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:30
by british is best
Exactly RB shorty . ‚öíÔ?è‚öíÔ?è

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:29
by british is best
Lopetegui isn't getting the job ..it's 100% a smokescreen. The dwarf might like him . The others on the board don't . He's well outnumbered. Forget Vanessa gold she's off . It's going to be AMORIM. Reports today out of Portugal are all saying as much.

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:29
by RBshorty
Everyone is missing the key component.? David Gold. Throughout his entire time dealing in football. David Sullivan has only had too get David Gold to agree with him. Now he has fellow Billionaires who he has too persuade his choice is the right one. Regardless of share count. It’s Amorim.

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:24
by twoleftfeet
I'd rather keep Moyes than get Lopetegui. We need someone younger with fresh ideas.

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:13
by kylay
"Stubbo 3:28 Tue Apr 30 Absolutely right. Add on to that, everyone one of the boards appointments before Moyes have been our worst managers in the clubs history. Ain't nothing changing as long as he's calling the shots."

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:10
by RBshorty
Sounds like easy money. Bookies just giving it away.!

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 17:06
by Alfs
Lopetegui's odds have halved overnight. Now 2/1 fav.

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 16:52
by ludo21
Sound advice Manuel... I'll go and have a lie in the sun and have a read of the papers.

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 16:31
by RBshorty
Or maybe it’s a Kansas City Shuffle. Who knows.?

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 16:26
by BN2
"Maybe this sense of foreboding, this idea that Sullivan will inevitably arse this up, is what all those pundits and media-types have been alluding to in their chorus of Be Careful What You Wish For"

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 15:51
by Sir Alf
Stubbo 3:28 Tue Apr 30 Bang on. Thats a very accurate summary imo of the reason why this club will always be held back while Sullivan is alive. Its all about him. He knows best. Narcissistic traits and behaviours. Napolean type “need” for power and influence coupled with no awareness of his limitatiions. The old “doesnt know what he doesnt know” Some will say how do we make this assessment? His actions and words underpin everything you say. Brings a guy in to run the football side but ultimately cannot let go as his need for appreciation runs deep back to his childhood ( aka small person syndrome ). Loptegui it will be or retain Moyes. :-(.

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 15:28
by stubbo
"I can totally believe in the idea that Lopetegui is the kind of manager that will appeal to Sullivan in an interview. No doubt comes across calm, considered, structured and organised. Same as Manuel Pellegrini, same as Moyes, same as Bilic, same as Grant. Unfortunately Sullivan values the wrong things in all he does. He loves the 'grand' links to bigger clubs that feed his sense of 'unfair inferiority', he loves the idea of 'experience' and he's spoken in the past of a general view that the importance of the manager is overrated (hence why he has always thought he could pick a player and never believed there is value in paying for a manager). So a guy out of work, with a decorated history in terms of the clubs he's been, slightly more senior in years, and with a somewhat school masterly demeanour who tells Sullivan West Ham are in good shape and he can work with where we are...all music to the Goblin's ears. What Sullivan doesn't do is innovative, dissenting, cutting or bleeding edge. He'd never have gone for Postecoglu. He'd never go for Amorim, and he'd never have gone for Arne Slot. He basically has a set if things he values, and from that it's clear to see the types of managers he'll value. So looking at our list: 1. Amorim...too expensive, too outspoken, too unproven. 2. Fonseca...clubs not high profile enough, not 'clearly better' than Moyes, moves around a lot, too 'risky'. 3. Potter...too unproven, too reliant on others. 4. Flick...one meaningful job. Unproven and a risk. 5. Lopetegui...Spain, Porto, Madrid, Sevilla, Wolves relegation escape. Tick Tick Tick Tick Tick. Despite the fact he was pretty much a failure at the first 4 of those barring the Europa league win. The saddest part of all of this for me is that he's not going to let Steidten do the job he was brought in to do (which is to run the football operation of the club). Sullivan's role now should really be about leading on the financial aspects of the club, ensuring Steidten stays within budget etc. Trouble is Sullivan believes himself as capable in the Steidten role and can't relinquish that role, and is essentially 'captured' by his agent friends/partners who have hooks into him. Plus the 'trading' side of the game is where the big money can be extracted. Until Sullivan leaves and is replaced by a much more corporate Chairman with no pretensions to be a football man, we can't truly move forwards. As I described on the Moyes Out thread months ago, whilst Moyes in his own right is a problem, he's also really just a symptom of the true root problem, which continues to be David Sullivan as chair of the club."

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 15:17
by terry-h
Stubbo That poll in Claret and Hugh has signs of Sullivan and his son Jack all over it. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Steidten walk away from this mess in the near future! He obviously can’t work with Moyes any more but his advice about a successor has little impact it seems.

Re: If David Moyes leaves West Ham who would you want to replace him?

Posted: 30 Apr 2024, 15:16
by british is best
I wouldn't take any notice of that claretandhugh poll . It's Gonzo from hammers chat doing it . Geezer changes his mind more times in a day . Than someone with OCD . I think it's going to be AMORIM . Be bloody glad when it's over with. The fan channels on YouTube are unwatchable because of it .