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El Scorchio" wrote: ↑25 Jun 2025, 15:09

Gank wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 16:50 Give me all the money in the WHO fund and I'll use it to pull Brady. I'll keep her busy in bed and away from the club.

Then when I cast her off after a year or so, she won't be able to go back to Paul and her life will be ruined. Without her, Sullivan won't be able to impact anywhere near as much and he'll just sell to the highest bidder.

Uncle Gank sorts your problems

Gank wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 16:50 Give me all the money in the WHO fund and I'll use it to pull Brady. I'll keep her busy in bed and away from the club.



 

You're sick in the head to go with that in the sack.

You do however go way up in my estimations for taking one for the WHU Team, you sick puppy.

ATHammer wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 14:52 There have been opportunities for Sullivan and Brady (and Gold when alive) to make a positive difference. 
When we moved from The Boleyn to Stratford not only was there an injection of cash but also a dramatically restructured (lower) cost base.
I seem to recall that we were told that this money was used to reduce debt and pay back director loans.
With a bit of foresight, however investment of some of that money could have been made in a proper training facility. It wasn't.
With a bit of foresight investment could have been made in a director of football and enhancing the infrastructure of the club, enlarging the scouting network and improving the data analysis capability. People like Brian Marwood, then at City; Dan Ashworth; Edu; etc. as well as clubs across Europe were implementing this structure. GSB did not bother. Settling for short term gain. 
There was a second bite of this cherry when Kretinsky came on board. West Ham declined to join.
The clubs that did adopt this approach are now reaping the financial rewards such an approach brings. European football; state of the art training facilities; attracting and retaining top talent, or selling it on at a profit.
GSB, Brady in particular, sold a "dream" "World Class Team in a World Class Stadium with World Class Transport Links." 
This could have been a vision that formed the basis of putting in place an infrastructure to deliver success. As it is, it is this was simply a sound bite for the masses with no substance at all, probably script written for her.
I feel insulted when we are told there is no money. If that is the case the blame sits with the board for their poor stewardship.
I feel insulted when I am told the Likes of Alvarez; Paqueta (if not banned) and Kudus must be sold to buy unknowns from Scandinavia or scavenging around the bins of the likes of Burnley and Southampton. Don't you build your team around the best players rather than flog them to buy inferior ones?
I find it ridiculous that we employ managers who can actively reduce the value of these players, just as they did with Anderson; Haller; Scammaca and Aguerd.  
I feel insulted when the likes of Bournemouth; Brighton; Brentford are shown up as not only having better training facilities but a better infrastructure to attract and secure talent. What is their history? What are their "World Class" credentials? They have vision, strategy, tactics and infrastructure to deliver the short, medium and long term objectives and the intelligence to be agile in a changing world.  
I feel insulted when the perception of our manager and their style of play is reported by suggested, prospective transfer targets as being unattractive. I understand it but we are the academy of football FFS.
I am sure Brady and Sullivan would be absolutely delighted if the club were successful. In their roles however it is their jobs to make that happen. They have proven beyond doubt unwilling and incapable of that.
The petition is a start, the FSA survey will likely give Brady in particular some real home truths about her "deal of the century".
It would be nice to see this circus pack up it's tent and fuck off.    

ATHammer wrote: ↑24 Jun 2025, 14:52 There have been opportunities for Sullivan and Brady (and Gold when alive) to make a positive difference. 
When we moved from The Boleyn to Stratford not only was there an injection of cash but also a dramatically restructured (lower) cost base.
I seem to recall that we were told that this money was used to reduce debt and pay back director loans.
With a bit of foresight, however investment of some of that money could have been made in a proper training facility. It wasn't.
With a bit of foresight investment could have been made in a director of football and enhancing the infrastructure of the club, enlarging the scouting network and improving the data analysis capability. People like Brian Marwood, then at City; Dan Ashworth; Edu; etc. as well as clubs across Europe were implementing this structure. GSB did not bother. Settling for short term gain. 
There was a second bite of this cherry when Kretinsky came on board. West Ham declined to join.
The clubs that did adopt this approach are now reaping the financial rewards such an approach brings. European football; state of the art training facilities; attracting and retaining top talent, or selling it on at a profit.
GSB, Brady in particular, sold a "dream" "World Class Team in a World Class Stadium with World Class Transport Links." 
This could have been a vision that formed the basis of putting in place an infrastructure to deliver success. As it is, it is this was simply a sound bite for the masses with no substance at all, probably script written for her.
I feel insulted when we are told there is no money. If that is the case the blame sits with the board for their poor stewardship.
I feel insulted when I am told the Likes of Alvarez; Paqueta (if not banned) and Kudus must be sold to buy unknowns from Scandinavia or scavenging around the bins of the likes of Burnley and Southampton. Don't you build your team around the best players rather than flog them to buy inferior ones?
I find it ridiculous that we employ managers who can actively reduce the value of these players, just as they did with Anderson; Haller; Scammaca and Aguerd.  
I feel insulted when the likes of Bournemouth; Brighton; Brentford are shown up as not only having better training facilities but a better infrastructure to attract and secure talent. What is their history? What are their "World Class" credentials? They have vision, strategy, tactics and infrastructure to deliver the short, medium and long term objectives and the intelligence to be agile in a changing world.  
I feel insulted when the perception of our manager and their style of play is reported by suggested, prospective transfer targets as being unattractive. I understand it but we are the academy of football FFS.
I am sure Brady and Sullivan would be absolutely delighted if the club were successful. In their roles however it is their jobs to make that happen. They have proven beyond doubt unwilling and incapable of that.
The petition is a start, the FSA survey will likely give Brady in particular some real home truths about her "deal of the century".
It would be nice to see this circus pack up it's tent and fuck off.    

eusebiovic wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 23:22

ATHammer wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 16:57

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 13:52 85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?

8.5m for a 20m player? That is a lot for a World Class negotiator securing world class talent at this point in the window. 
Create a lot of smoke and mirrors; work tirelessly on making ludicrous bids early on which we just, miraculously, miss out on. 
After all, we do a lot of our "best business" at the end of the transfer window when the deadbeats that the usual suspects can't shift are offered back to Dear old Dave.
Just be patient.
I am sure that the apologists will refer to last years Wan Bissaka deal but I won't buy it.
Sell the best players, get in some deadbeats with no pre season, blame Macaulay and Potter, sack both around Christmas when results reflect the great man's strategy and, provided there are three worse teams than us a job well done by DS.
Don's clown suit and heads back to the circus ring.
  

https://www.claretandhugh.info/west-ham ... -distance/

Who is that Martin Treasure bloke who posts on Claret & Hugh?  He's just mentioned this very shitty bid like it's a genius bit of negotiating. I'll have a flat white please. That will be £3.80 sir. How about I give you £1.50 and some incentives to make me piss through the one eyed lizard in future?

He has a very jolly picture but his articles are really starting to make my piss boil...

ATHammer wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 16:57

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 13:52 85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?

8.5m for a 20m player? That is a lot for a World Class negotiator securing world class talent at this point in the window. 
Create a lot of smoke and mirrors; work tirelessly on making ludicrous bids early on which we just, miraculously, miss out on. 
After all, we do a lot of our "best business" at the end of the transfer window when the deadbeats that the usual suspects can't shift are offered back to Dear old Dave.
Just be patient.
I am sure that the apologists will refer to last years Wan Bissaka deal but I won't buy it.
Sell the best players, get in some deadbeats with no pre season, blame Macaulay and Potter, sack both around Christmas when results reflect the great man's strategy and, provided there are three worse teams than us a job well done by DS.
Don's clown suit and heads back to the circus ring.
  

ATHammer wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 18:51

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 17:47 To be honest, for all the amount of moaning about so called time wasting low bids for players, it’s more alarming to me how much we will actually pay over the odds for the players we end up with.

Kilman cost us almost half of Declan Rice’s fee. That absolutely fucking sickens me.

If Sullivan wasn’t chairman the board would have sacked any chairman that had seen the crippling decline of the last few years.

 

I haven't even looked at who he has low ball bid for this time. I honestly can't be arsed. It is what I expect.
Your point on over paying for garbage is excellent. Sullivan spends a lot of club money but invests fuck all.
This current "we are skint" thing would see most CEO's and their FD's fucked off down the road given the time and advantages they have had and the tools at their disposal. 
My point is fundamental. World Class Team in a World Class Stadium. Sullivan and Brady have had ample time to deliver on that promise and they haven't; neither have they shown any intention of doing so. Survival will do nicely to keep their gravy train rolling.
A few shit signings and a few shit managers. When we do find some pearls then we have the managers to devalue them then try to flog them before the value disappears completely. It is always someone else's fault when the result is, well, shit.
The ground is a disgrace; the training facilities a disgrace; and the standard of play and results for a team with the second highest attendance in the premier league a disgrace.  
BS are unfit and incapable of running our great club and, whilst they protect the legacy of a long line of shysters, that doesn't mean we, as supporters, shouldn't hold them to account for their continually falling short of providing what we, as supporters, are due and what they promised.  

stubbo wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 18:40

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 13:52 85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?

Post editing is time limited but you should be able to.

ATHammer wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 18:51

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 17:47 To be honest, for all the amount of moaning about so called time wasting low bids for players, it’s more alarming to me how much we will actually pay over the odds for the players we end up with.

Kilman cost us almost half of Declan Rice’s fee. That absolutely fucking sickens me.

If Sullivan wasn’t chairman the board would have sacked any chairman that had seen the crippling decline of the last few years.

 

I haven't even looked at who he has low ball bid for this time. I honestly can't be arsed. It is what I expect.
Your point on over paying for garbage is excellent. Sullivan spends a lot of club money but invests fuck all.
This current "we are skint" thing would see most CEO's and their FD's fucked off down the road given the time and advantages they have had and the tools at their disposal. 
My point is fundamental. World Class Team in a World Class Stadium. Sullivan and Brady have had ample time to deliver on that promise and they haven't; neither have they shown any intention of doing so. Survival will do nicely to keep their gravy train rolling.
A few shit signings and a few shit managers. When we do find some pearls then we have the managers to devalue them then try to flog them before the value disappears completely. It is always someone else's fault when the result is, well, shit.
The ground is a disgrace; the training facilities a disgrace; and the standard of play and results for a team with the second highest attendance in the premier league a disgrace.  
BS are unfit and incapable of running our great club and, whilst they protect the legacy of a long line of shysters, that doesn't mean we, as supporters, shouldn't hold them to account for their continually falling short of providing what we, as supporters, are due and what they promised.  

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 17:47 To be honest, for all the amount of moaning about so called time wasting low bids for players, it’s more alarming to me how much we will actually pay over the odds for the players we end up with.

Kilman cost us almost half of Declan Rice’s fee. That absolutely fucking sickens me.

If Sullivan wasn’t chairman the board would have sacked any chairman that had seen the crippling decline of the last few years.

El Scorchio" wrote: ↑23 Jun 2025, 13:52 85 mill or 8.5 mill for a 20 mill player is equally insane to be fair. And you wouldn't bet against him doing either.

Also @ mods, how come on this thread you can't edit your posts?