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Dispatches tonight could be about him so he has jumped in first dismissing claims and rumours and saying anything he did in past was consensual. No doubt it will be said that this is The Matrix coming after him due to his opposition to mainstream media.

"zebthecat 11:06 Wed Sep 20 So, the virus wasn’t deadly to anyone under 70 without other health issues, the vaccines didn’t work, the masks didn't worked, the lockdowns didn’t save anyone and any counter opinion to the ‘official’ narrative was censored by SM, resulting in a massive upward transfer of wealth from the tax payer to Big Pharma for vaccines that didn’t stop you getting it, or infecting anyone else (which they didn’t even test for), and yet you reckon there was no conspiracy."

"Zeb, what were the terms of the deal?"

"""Also people were free to decide"" absolutely disagree. you had a government nudge unit tasked to coerce people in to taking a product that's probably harmed many people. also companies threatening employees that there job was at risk of they didn't comply. austria even threatened their citizens that they'd be fined if they didn't submit to the roll out, and put on a reguster. fucking tyranny in plain sight, and I'm sure they'll start up again with the same shit again very soon, and the same sheep will facilitate it"

"When were these text messages sent? 2006? That's about when 3G started to roll out globally (and the roll back in started about 18 months ago). Didn't the very first iPhone appear about then, too? Given the nature of the accusation, I can understand the woman ensuring that she kept copies of those texts, especially whilst changing handsets or service provider, but as to whether there's still any proof on the network that they were sent depends on the network provider's data retention policy. I doubt that they were encrypted so if stored somewhere should be easily accessible; likewise any copies the police/rape crisis centre have. Storage capacity back then wasn't as cheap as it is today so companies would only retain what they were legally obliged to and that would normally be financial data for tax purposes and how long that was retained depended/depends on national policy and legal requirements. If verifiable data is still available then establishing a time-line for the alleged events will not be a challenge and I'm quite surprised none was put forward. I haven't seen the show however, so all those who have watched may have collectively missed such a time-line. So. No proof that she's either telling the truth or lying on this matter in exactly the same way there's no proof that Brand is telling the truth or lying on the same. Is she getting the same media limitation action imposed on her that Brand is attracting? Even accounting for their proportional (previous) exposure to and in the industry? And what about equality in this matter, or does that get fucked off in the event that there is a better personal-agenda-fitting situation?"

It was hardly a consiracy when it was broadcast what the virus was and who was researching and making the vaccines. Conspiracy requires an element of subterfuge (it in the dictionary definition) but this was completely out in the open. Also people were free to decide whether to get vaccined or not as it was not mandated. You disgreed with it obviously but it was not a conspiracy at all..

"Here, have a reply Branded. You're clearly craving one."

"Capitol Man 2:56 Wed Sep 20 Re: Russell Brand Governments LITERALLY conspired with pharma companies to produce the vaccine which some countries mandated. When that happens its reasonable to find out what were the relationships between the companies and the governments, as far as any of that information is available. No mainstream media was doing that as they conspired with governments. In the UK they were paid by central government."

Love it when Cap looses his rag when he cant for a basic argument. As far as Dean is concerned he’s lost to his ideologies.

Just out of interest. Did they prove the text messages were true? What did they use to do that?

Without the text messages he might have got off. With them he's fucked

It’s mental just how many news stories and headlines there are about this. I get it’s newsworthy but you’d think it’s somehow the most important news story ever. Pages & pages of Brand stories in the mail. Suddenly everyone knew he was a rapist or everyone warned their colleagues. Or you get a fame whore like Vanessa Feltz telling the world he made a joke she didn’t like 10 years ago. Mental.

"This has been a largely productive and refreshing debate - everyone is of course entitled to their opinion and a hearing for their judgements. So this is what I'm taking from it at this stage Brand is definitely a bright, articulate voice worthy of attention He is a shrewd analyst of the media market at least and has positioned himself admirably well He is not an authority on government policy and that is not his chosen remit He is more than average on the narcissistic disorder spectrum hence his exposure to the sex allegations He may be considering a career in politics building on the base he has established The posters here trying to make a contribution work together well and ought to be acknowledged and encouraged to carry on posting in this vein."

Right wing or left wing? Does it really fucking matter??? Either way he's a bell end.

"If YOU watch a Russell Brand Video - only one, just out of curiosity, like, to see what all the fuss is about - then by definition YOU are his audience and YOUR click has earned him a little more. Why does the guy have (HAVE) to be ANY wing? At all? Like others on here, I've watched some of his stuff (generally after another poster on here mentioned it) and although I agree with SOME of what he says, I also disagree with SOME of what he says. That doesn't force me to nail him to a wing-tip though, red or blue, and I have no need to rank those likes/dislikes into some sort of ""Top 10"" list to prove to the world wing tip I'm closest to. You can bet your arse on any political aircraft flying anywhere, I'll be sat comfortably inside the fuselage, as is my - and everybody else's right to choose."

"deanjcrawford 2:21 Wed Sep 20 I was just having a bit of bantz with you, dean. And yes, you are definitely hysterical. The problem you've got, is you are the absolute worst culprit in terms of accusing others of doing the EXACT thing you do, but you do it on steroids. You are making up your version of what everyone else is saying/meaning, and it is making you come across as a right bellend. I haven't championed this geezer, not once. All I've said is, from the limited times I've seen any of his stuff, it's been more questioning accepted authoritarian rules and apparent facts, which personally I think is a good thing. However, IN YOUR OPINION that is pandering to what is IN YOUR OPINION a far right audience. But it's clearly not, as there are self confessed lefties on this very thread telling you that they watch and agree with some of his stuff. You're all over the shop."

So Dean just so we are clear Are you saying that the left wing supports individual billionaire’s expansion of wealth and influence over government institutions? Doesn’t feel like a left wing position but I guess if the billionaire own the left wing media I can see how those wishing to be left wing could be hoodwinked.

"Chim, If you look at his videos, especially since covid, you will see that is simply not true. He absolutely does cater to a right wing audience - and I’ve given numerous examples of that. He doesn’t speak the truth, he spouts conspiracy theories in the shape of “I’m just sayin’, we gotta ask questions, do your own research.” For example, he talks about, and gives reasons why 9/11 was an inside job. I think that’s disgusting click bait bollocks. But he’s just asking questions. He’s not a doctor, but will tell you covid vaccines cause heart attacks. He’s happy to peddle unconfirmed theories about the Bidens, Hilary Clinton, about Fauci, about Bill Gates, Russia, about Ukraine, the real reason behind the Hawaii fires…all topics close to the heart of the right. For someone that is supposed to so non-partisan, he puts out a hell of a lot more content that appeals to the right that he does the left. I too agree that he won’t be cancelled. And that’s because he now has a hardcore right wing audience that will not hear anything bad about one of their own. It started with Trump. Everything bad that is said about that person is simply the mainstream media attacking them because they are a threat to the establishment. I wouldn’t be surprised if Brand gets an even bigger audience after this. It seems as if people on this thread think that it’s just me that’s saying all this. You simply have to do a search of Brand and conservative to see that he is now widely regarded as a conspiracy theorist championed by the right. Go on any social media site and see the comments about him. And just look at the company he keeps; Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, Ian Cheong, Elon Musk, Tucker Carlson, Laurence Fox, Katie Hopkins. All right wing commentators defending one of their own. Just because Russell Brand says he’s neither right or left wing doesn’t really matter. People will say anything for clicks. I really don’t understand why, with all the information at their fingertips, people don’t see this."

"Dean, can I just say as someone who is probably more left wing to the point of being virtually an anarchist myself (who will grudgingly vote Labour as the clowns in charge now simply have to go), if you think that RB caters to any political viewpoint beyond hating them all equally and tailors his output to one side of the political spectrum for money, you are completely wrong. He was one of the most famous people in the world for a while and has plenty of dough and doesn't actually need any more money or to kow tow to a certain type of audience. He speaks the truth as he understands it and he doesn't care who he offends. THAT has ultimately been his downfall but just like Joe Rogan will prove himself to be cancel culture proof. I'm sure of it."

"Let’s take the big pharma stuff. Should there be questions about how the whole thing works, ongoing relationships with government regulators, movement from government to industry, the amounts charged to people. It gets exceptionally dodgy in the US with the prices paid for drugs. Does that mean there was some big conspiracy underway with the pandemic either to drum up massive profits or somehow control people - fuck no."

'The demographic won’t be more balanced on Rumble because it’s predominantly a Right-wing site.' I never said it was. I have said the opposite. Repeatedly.

'The demographic won’t be more balanced on Rumble because it’s predominantly a Right-wing site.' I never said it was. I have said the opposite. Repeatedly.

"Capitol Man 2:17 Wed Sep 20 “It is pretty funny the number of conspiracy theorists who have utterly convinced themselves that their looney stuff has somehow been validated over time.” Exactly that. Jaan, The demographic won’t be more balanced on Rumble because it’s predominantly a Right-wing site. And we can agree on one thing - Right-wing guests and talking points get more views. Which is Russell Brand, Joe Rogan, et al, pander to the right."

"Eerie, You really have a hard on for me, don‚Äôt you? Or is it just anyone that doesn‚Äôt agree with your opinion? Which is ironic seeing as you champion someone who supposedly likes to upset the establishment and form a different opinion. I‚Äôm clearly not hysterical and have been quite rational in my arguments. Branded talks shit most of the time, but at least he can form an opinion every now and then and not just call me a cսnt and think that wins an argument."

"'So you’re saying YouTube isn’t right wing. And Brand won’t post as much on there any more…because he’s not right wing? The demographic won’t be more balanced on Rumble because it’s predominantly a right wing platform. Just like Russell Brand’s content.' ---------------------------------- No I said Youtube isn't right wing and the demographic will be more balanced than on Rumble, which he is less successful on. 'And Trump is popular, eh? Joe Rogan gets those guests in because he gets a higher viewership? It’s almost like he’s getting right wing guests on because they appeal to a bigger audience.' -------------------------------------- No. Trump was a huge source of news for CNN through controversy, and their viewership nose dived once he left office. Joe Rogan invites a wide variety of guests on. Just because some of his most successful podcasts have involved people you hate politically doesn't meant he panders to the right."

More creepy stalker stuff from wank stain. Branded - the “truth” didn’t come out at all. You’ve just continued to fall for the narratives that led you to blunder on a constant basis through this. It is pretty funny the number of conspiracy theorists who have utterly convinced themselves that their looney stuff has somehow been validated over time. Nothing of the sort has happened.