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Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 26 May 2025, 20:02
by stubbo-admin
May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.
Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?
Window this close season comes in two parts:
Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September
Rumoured Outs...most of the squad
Let the "Rumoured In's" commence.
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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)
Rumoured In
- Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
- Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
- Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
- Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
- Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
- Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
- James Trafford | GK | Burnley
- Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
- Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
- CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
- Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
- Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
- Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
- Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
- Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
- James McAtee | AM | Man City
- Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
- Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
- Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
- Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
- Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
- Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
- Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
- Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
- Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
- Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
- Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
- Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
Rumoured Out
- Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseille, Juventus | ~25m
- Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
- Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/River Plate
- Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
- Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
- Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
- Lucas Paqueta | AM | Multiple/Ban
- Andy Irving | CM | Celtic
Confirmed In
- Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
Confirmed Out
- Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
- Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
- Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
- Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
- Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
- Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
- Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
- Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
- Brad Dolaghan | Released
- Dondre Abraham | Released
- Mehmet Halim | Released
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 14:23
by scott_d
Some people seem to think that Football Manager is real life.
For starters, in FM you can sign players outside of Will Salthouses stable.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 14:14
by Lee Trundle
Sign him up. He's probably still as quick as the rest of our midfield.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 14:05
by Manuel
Carrick has been sacked.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 12:41
by El Scorchio
Nothing wrong with selling Kudus for a profit if you have a succession plan in place and a young player ready to replace them either already in the squad or an identified target. We NEVER do which is where we fall over.
This is what Brighton particularly have managed to do with huge success relative to the size of club they are. Lose Caicedo and MacAllister? No problem. Step forward next young player off the line who cost them fuck all two years ago and will be worth multitudes more in two years time, while the team barely misses a beat.
Great talent spotting and most of them recruited with a specific purpose in mind.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 12:41
by Eerie Decent
by
Alan » 04 Jun 2025, 10:11"Just had a trawl through a Southampton forum to see what they thought of Ramsdale.
I didn't find one negative comment about him and the general opinion was that he was their best player by a distance and far too good for them."
That's fair enough, I'll always listen to the majority of fans of a club when rating a player of theirs, over people on here who have seen him a handful of times, including myself.
I just find it hard to believe a keeper who let in 80+ goals in a season has been fautless. He might not have made a mistake directly leading to a goal, but I think it's a fair guess that he could have kept a fair few more out than that. We can't have been far behind for shots conceded over the season. As an example, imo he should've kept the one out that Bowen scored for us, got a weak hand on it.
Still, their fans will know more than me. Can't help thinking that the £20mil+ would be much better spent elsewhere, don't really see an upgrade on Areola, and I'm not the biggest fan of him.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 12:20
by Rossal
with Bowen and Ghillurme. I think i would like the Kudus money spent on a number 10 and a top CB.
Spend the Paqueta money on another attacking midfielder and a CM.
We would need a left sided winger for Summerville competition more than we would need another right winger wouldnt we?
Anyhow agree with Trundle, rather buy yoof and the stockpiled lads at the so called big clubs rather than the likes of Harwood-Bellis and Taviner
We seemed to have had a few reports last few days of random youngsters across Europe, so maybe thats what Potters recruitment bloke is thinking. Their was a defender in Denmark and a attacking mid from St Etienne
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 11:54
by RBshorty
violator wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 11:39
Sell Kudus and throw the money at Atalanta for De Ketelaere, he might fancy a switch now the boss has just jacked it in there.
That's all well and good. But the World and his Dog know we need to sell before we buy. And we are getting screwed both ends of any deal that involves Kudus.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 11:39
by violator
Sell Kudus and throw the money at Atalanta for De Ketelaere, he might fancy a switch now the boss has just jacked it in there.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 11:33
by Lee Trundle
I'd feel much more comfortable spending our money on fringe players at Champions League Premier League clubs, than spending our money on players from one of the worst teams the Premier League has ever seen.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 11:28
by Rossal
Chelsea after Kudus
Dewsbury Hall
Chuwumeka
Tosin
Chalobah
Sanchez
those 5 offered up as part of any deal.
I'd take Dewsbury Hall, Chuwumeka and Chalobah for Mo
I reckon Potters new keeping coaches might want Sanchez to join them, hopefully not he is up with Ramsdale as a calamity.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:57
by Manuel
Our CB positions are very unclear at this point. I suspect the lot of them are up for sale, including Aguerd. I'm not sure who would take them though, unless we sell them cheap. Maybe Dinos and Aguerd would have interested parties in Europe. I can see one CB arriving this summer and then hope we can see some improvement from the likes of Kilman and Todibo. Casey looks a right off at this point.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:53
by Lee Trundle
ATHammer wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 10:42
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 10:28
No one's sold on the idea on getting all 3 of Ramsdale, Harwood-Bellis and KWP, are they?
I think that says a lot. A few of us might be happy with Ramsdale, a few of us might be happy with Harwood-Bellis, and a few of us might be happy with KWP.
I wouldn't be going anywhere near all 3 of them, I think.
My point is that you build world class teams around world class players, Potential or actual. You don't build a world class team by selling world class players and replacing them with average players. None of the Southampton players represent any kind of step forward. They may, in some peoples minds, be an improvement from what we have but others would argue that.
I can't say that when I saw Southampton last season I thought "wow" about any of the above mentioned, individually or collectively. They looked like a poor team with poor players.
If that's your point, then I agree with it.
I'm not a fan of selling Kudus and replacing him with Tavernier, for example. I think that's quite a bit of a downgrade.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:42
by ATHammer
Lee Trundle" wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 10:28
No one's sold on the idea on getting all 3 of Ramsdale, Harwood-Bellis and KWP, are they?
I think that says a lot. A few of us might be happy with Ramsdale, a few of us might be happy with Harwood-Bellis, and a few of us might be happy with KWP.
I wouldn't be going anywhere near all 3 of them, I think.
My point is that you build world class teams around world class players, Potential or actual. You don't build a world class team by selling world class players and replacing them with average players. None of the Southampton players represent any kind of step forward. They may, in some peoples minds, be an improvement from what we have but others would argue that.
I can't say that when I saw Southampton last season I thought "wow" about any of the above mentioned, individually or collectively. They looked like a poor team with poor players.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:41
by Rossal
Alan wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 10:35
The Saints fans all seem to speak well of Walker Peters.
Harwood Bellis however:-
"Harwood Bellis will be hoping for a move to a Prem club.
Imo he's been our worst CB which is saying something, and has looked out of his depth in the Premier League.
At best we may get 15m or likely less for him unless we can mug someone off "
"he will never get another england cap "
"The chap that sits next to me has been calling him Harwood Bellend since about the turn of the year. After every mistake he goes Harwoood Bellend again, ding dong! He’s had plenty of opportunities… "
thats a £50m double bid for him and Ramsdale nailed on then
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:35
by Alan
The Saints fans all seem to speak well of Walker Peters.
Harwood Bellis however:-
"Harwood Bellis will be hoping for a move to a Prem club.
Imo he's been our worst CB which is saying something, and has looked out of his depth in the Premier League.
At best we may get 15m or likely less for him unless we can mug someone off "
"he will never get another england cap "
"The chap that sits next to me has been calling him Harwood Bellend since about the turn of the year. After every mistake he goes Harwoood Bellend again, ding dong! He’s had plenty of opportunities… "
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:33
by boleyn8420
Its always been the same with us. There is no joined up thinking whatsoever when it comes to recruitment, and yes that includes managers.
Go back as far as Greenwood passing on Banks because he gave his word to buy Ferguson. We would have had 4 World Cup winners, mind you with Greenwood at the helm we still wouldn't have done much and so it continued. Luck out with a buy or youth and they get sold as soon as the board sees pound signs (all the boards at West Ham have been the same not just the twats in charge at the moment) Never once did we try and build a side to compete at the highest level, nearest was 86 and look what happened after that not a penny spent on new players for the following season and the decline once again sets in. The talent we sold as soon as we could get a decent price and i am sure ive forgotten lots, but Peters, Slater, Lampard, Ferdinand, Defoe, Carrick, Cole, Johnson, Tevez, Payet, Rice etc as I say I'm sure you can add loads more.
The point is no plan at all. Look at the current mismanagement, hiring Potter after the previous disaster Lopetegui, then we look at Ramsdale for £20m, what are they smoking. It doesn't matter whoever they eventually buy we will be lucky to escape relegation and the cycle continues. The latest masterstroke is sell Kudus and replace him with Marcus Tavenier from Bournemouth, really!
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:28
by Lee Trundle
No one's sold on the idea on getting all 3 of Ramsdale, Harwood-Bellis and KWP, are they?
I think that says a lot. A few of us might be happy with Ramsdale, a few of us might be happy with Harwood-Bellis, and a few of us might be happy with KWP.
I wouldn't be going anywhere near all 3 of them, I think.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:21
by honky cat
I think Ramsdale is probably decent. But do we need to spend that sort of money on a keeper this season when we are so short in other areas, i think its bad business right now. I'd be minded to stick with Areola and a cheaper up and coming keeper to replace fabbers.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:17
by ATHammer
Massive Attack" wrote: ↑04 Jun 2025, 09:06
I think it's classic West Ham of us to be chasing defensive players that heavily contributed towards conceding the most goals (86) in a relegated side that finished rock bottom of the Premier League - Ramsdale, Harwood-Bellis and Walker-Peters.
If that's the best we can do to replace the excellent service given to us - Fabianski, Coufal, Cresswell, then I fear even more about the direction the Club is going recruitment wise. Out of the 3 Harwood-Bellis would be the only 1 I'd be interested in at a reasonable price. However having just been badly scarred from his recent experience used to conceding and losing so often, I'd give it a swerve for the time being to see how he gets on next season to regain some much needed confidence.
World class club in a world class stadium with world class transport links able to attract world class players.
Paraphrasing Karren Brady.
So, why are we acting like pikey's at a boot sale hawking established international players in order to be associated with a trio of relegated players?
Why do we need to sell good to replace with average?
Is it because, the scouting is next to non existent in comparison with other clubs?; the manager is bang average and cannot manage talent? The board told us when we moved, and continue to tell us now, a pack of lies?
I am not against selling some of the first team, I think it is essential. Neither am I against us pursuing young and often unknown talent.
What I am against would be to sell, say Kudus and replace him with bargain basement losers. That would be the action of world class cunts.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 10:11
by Alan
Just had a trawl through a Southampton forum to see what they thought of Ramsdale.
I didn't find one negative comment about him and the general opinion was that he was their best player by a distance and far too good for them.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 09:30
by John Drake
Two red flags that your scouting is rubbish:
1. Hoping to pick up bargains from relegated clubs in fire sales.
2. Going back to the manager's former club(s) for signings.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 09:28
by dealcanvey
Even Donnarumma would not have stopped Southampton from finishing bottom last year.
Ramsdale made second most amount of saves in the league last year. Not surprising. Was joint top for penalties saved.
Areola made 3 errors leading to goals last season. Only two keepers had 0 and Ramsdale was one of them. Thats quite impressive considering how busy he was kept.
Homegrown players are expensive. Moyes wanted the likes of Maguire, Mguinn and Mctominay. Quite a few on here were against it but they would all walk into our team. I think Ramsdale is an improvement on Areola. We dont tend to do well when we try and buy cheap from abroad. Much prefer us focus on some homegrown players to tr and get some identity back.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 09:06
by Massive Attack
I think it's classic West Ham of us to be chasing defensive players that heavily contributed towards conceding the most goals (86) in a relegated side that finished rock bottom of the Premier League - Ramsdale, Harwood-Bellis and Walker-Peters.
If that's the best we can do to replace the excellent service given to us - Fabianski, Coufal, Cresswell, then I fear even more about the direction the Club is going recruitment wise. Out of the 3 Harwood-Bellis would be the only 1 I'd be interested in at a reasonable price. However having just been badly scarred from his recent experience used to conceding and losing so often, I'd give it a swerve for the time being to see how he gets on next season to regain some much needed confidence.
Do better West Ham, as it looks like desperate lazy scouting..
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 08:15
by honky cat
Surely there is better business than Ramsdale. I think Southampton only signed him in a panic as they were left short by Bazunu being out for a year. Where's the scouting? there must be a decent european keeper out there.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 04 Jun 2025, 08:07
by Fauxstralian
I don’t believe there isn’t a keeper in Europe for a third of the price & wages of Ramsdale. Without 3 relegations on their cv
In the style of a Czech (Ludo) or a Pole (Fabianski)