Woke watch

[arsene york-hunt]

"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

[goose]

The notion of two genders is not kids being little shits. It’s basic facts.

[Darlo Debs]

So basically getting children not to be shits to one another and show empathy. Nowhere does its say he thinks a man can be a woman or vice versa I mean a Bishop and the Christian Church telling people to be kind to eachother. Who would think it?

[goose]

"He's the head of the CofE. Go read their guidance on 'Valuing all Gods Children'. ""It is also important that pupils can explore issues of sexual orientation, gender identity and other factors that make healthy self-embodiment challenging. Specifically it is important that pupils understand the issues for those who feel they are trans/transgender and may be in the process of transition"""

[Hammer and Pickle]

"Stubbo What kind of counselling do you mean? In my experience, it is about affirmation of what is really alive in us - or actual needs, drives and resources. The work is about accepting the blocks and affirming the flow once the blocks dissolve. We may decide we are really flowing and alive as a teapot in the course of the work but that is not normally what happens when affirmation work is done properly."

[Darlo Debs]

Where did he actually say that goose?

[goose]

No surprise that a man who believes in a made-up God also believes that it is possible for you to change gender.

[Willtell]

H&P By all means put me on your ignore list but tell me why because it makes me so sad! Did I say something wrong in suggesting an Archbishop promotes the belief in God?

[Darlo Debs]

Will.one can only hope so

[Willtell]

“ Will have you just officially outed yourself as 2LF or is that common knowledge?” ——————- Ha ha ha! No Debs I thought you had replied to my post and it had a typo. I wonder if twoleftfeet is outraged?

[stubbo]

"The whole thing has reached farce, in my opinion, driven by the 'ability' to now surgically/hormonally change someone's cosmetic appearance for commercial gain (by those providing the services/drugs). Looking at this logically, Gender Dysphoria (except in maybe the tiniest number of cases) would have to logically be driven by the presence of Gender Stereotypes. Without the gender stereotypes, the suggestion that there is a 'wrong sex' could not exist, as by definition there would be no right/matching sex to your gender (behavioural identity), just the one you arrived in the world with. The world should be encouraging the removal/disregard for gender stereotypes, whilst pushing back on this idea of Sex-gender alignment being a thing...all that does is perpetuate gender stereotyping by validating the idea that alignment between 'sex' and 'gender' is a requirement (or that they're legitimately indeed different things). Transgenderism isn't remotely new. But sex and gender were always largely considered to be the same thing....things that were split by gender (e.g. male and female toilets) were gender referenced because sex and gender were the same, when in reality the intention is for them to be sex-differentiated (hence urinals in the mens and not the ladies). The same with male and female sport categories....these aren't gender categories in the new interpretation of that word, but sex categories based on a fair physical fight. Until this gender-sex misalignment is treated as a non-issue, whereby little boys dressing as princesses and little guys dressing as GI Joe is just treated as individual preference of no consequence, rather than an indicator of some kind of mental conundrum, this lunacy will continue along with the unnecessary physical mutilation of kids to align their physical appearance to their behavioural characteristics adherence to a specific stereotype. In no other scenario do we validate a chronic psychological condition with affirmation. If someone proclaims themselves the son of god, they're not encouraged. If someone advises they can fly by flapping their arms, they're not encouraged to take to the skies form the nearest bridge. They're counselled on the root cause of their state of mind. And without stereotypes, the idea that a boy could 'feel like a girl' and be in the wrong body would be moot, as what would define what 'feeling like a girl' was....there would just be 'being yourself'. Someone convince me I'm wrong."

[Hammer and Pickle]

"I’m willing to bet my house on the Arch Bish laughing in your face if you told him he believes or sells the idea that our lives are controlled by god. Really, I think I’ll put you back on ignore-the-twit mode, Willtell"

[Darlo Debs]

Will have you just officially outed yourself as 2LF or is that common knowledge? I don't believe in God either but he is still.allowed to.practice free speech. Why are the right wing on here so shouty when they think.their free speech is being threatened but get wound up.when someone says something they don't like. I probably wouldn't agree with everything he says but hey that free speech for you.

[Willtell]

"""Are you saying 2lf that abusing individual students for being in a minority is OK somehow?"" ---------------------------------- No Debs I didn't imply any such thing. I merely asked why the views of the Archbishop of Canterbury are still taken seriously by the media. An Archbishop believes and tries to sell the idea that our lives are controlled by a God. OK it may be a tradition but in the 2000 years since he was invented, there has not been a single piece of evidence that he exists or should I say she or it? Indeed there is far more convincing evidence that God does not exist..."

[Fifth Column]

"Debs Fair enough. I've just googled his words. He's grouping direct anti-Semitism (which does exist on campus) and ""transphobia"" together. He needs to ""educate himself"" as all the blue haired 19 year olds would say."

[Lee Trundle]

'ark at her!

[Fifth Column]

"100% it can be abusive or insulting if you were for example running up to someone on the street and in their face calling them a bloke or whatever. Causing harassment, alarm or distress is a criminal offence already. None of these left wing women speaking at universities are talking about any individuals - they are talking about principles, philosophy, biology and are called Nazis and fascists and literally have been assaulted. At Oxford Uni the trans activists assaulted one of the pro women's rights people outside the venue. Yet Welby is saying that their very presence talking about the issues is somehow abusive to trans students. It's taking away the rights that lesbians and women have fought for, for millennia. Welby is a prick."

[goose]

Pickle you seem obsessed with manliness and masculinity at the moment. A psychologist would have a field day with your obvious lack of masculinity and you projecting that as an insult.

[Lee Trundle]

Maggot & Pickled talking about what it is to be a man is proper LOL stuff.

[Darlo Debs]

"Fifth sorry that is not how I interpreted what he said...given he mentioned other minorities too. So it read that the university is letting bullying of minorities go unchallenged. Rios you're attitude is just dispesctful. If you were friends a lad going through transition who had to identify as the opposite sex before they could do so, would you deliberately call them. He/him.j ust to.upset them.so.as to make yourself feel.better?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"It can be assumed that you and I are both male, saddo. Yet our ideas of what it is to be a man are radically at odds, and probably irreconcilable. Now, I have a pretty good idea as to how to explain this but first how about you having a go by talking about chromosomes and crutch tackle?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

"It can be assumed that you and I are both male, saddo. Yet our ideas of what it is to be a man are radically at odds, and probably irreconcilable. Now, I have a pretty good idea as to how to explain this but first how about you having a go by talking about chromosomes and crutch tackle?"

[goose]

"It can be, but that isn't whats happening here. The abuse is largely around the other way. Stating that there are only two genders is not abuse - its facts. Staing someones gender isnt abuse - its a fact."

[Darlo Debs]

"It can be . Depends on the intention of the person Missenden g them. If its done repeatedly so as to belittle, bully or demean them.then its abuse if its done unintentionally then no its obviously not abuse."

[Fifth Column]

"Debs The article states ""While the Archbishop said there was no right not to be offended on campus, he added that universities that allow students to be “abused, insulted and excluded” should face serious consequences."" There is no abuse of trans students on campus. Welby is referencing universities allowing feminists and lesbians to speak on campus stating that women's rights to single sex services, sports and scholarships etc shouldn't be available to males. They state that men can't become women and should not be treated legally as women. Kathleen Stock, the lesbian academic, was hounded out of her job by trans students and their advocates including death threats. She is one of the people who Oxford university ensured was protected when she came to speak to Oxford Union. The trans students and activists accuse her of being a Nazi etc. She's a left wing feminist lesbian. For Welby to equate her and people like her who have in some cases been assaulted by trans activists on campuses, as being ""abusive, insulting or excluded"" is simply a lie."

[riosleftsock]

"Debs I'll try to keep this simple for you. If a person has XY chromosones, they are male. this can be easily proven by examining their skeletal features or many other distinctive physical features. Your sex is an immutable characteristic in 99.99% of all people in the world. What you are referring to are people who believe (despite all evidence to the contrary) that they are a different sex. As this is clearly (scientifically) not possible, they are clearly suffering from a delusion and possible psychiatric condition. If other people encourage this delusion, it is not necessarily an act of kindness to encourage them or even to partake in their delusion. If you were to identify as a black person, it would be no business of mine until you insisted on me agreeing that your clearly false new identity is in fact true."