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Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 22:53Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 22:31 Think the biggest issue with vaccines is your right to choose without being discriminated against if you choose not too! All that shit with Covid and having to show proof (here in Oz, expect UK was the same) you had been vaccinated just to get into restaurants, pubs or even go to work etc was a disgrace and rightly needed pushing back against, i chose to have the jabs as believed in the science but in many ways had no choice either as my employer at the time made it mandatory with government approval, that's fucked
Reading today that the UK is now wanting to make it mandatory to have digital ID, what the fuck is that all about? More of the state controlling your life and knowing everything about you, that needs pushing back against as well, bunch of cunts.haven't been in a pub, restaurant, concert venue, theatre since. will never, ever forgive the cunts for what they did or the gullible sheep that facilitated the discrimination/tyranny
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑26 Sep 2025, 10:09 don't forget your id card, fucking ginger order following moron
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 22:53Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 22:31 Think the biggest issue with vaccines is your right to choose without being discriminated against if you choose not too! All that shit with Covid and having to show proof (here in Oz, expect UK was the same) you had been vaccinated just to get into restaurants, pubs or even go to work etc was a disgrace and rightly needed pushing back against, i chose to have the jabs as believed in the science but in many ways had no choice either as my employer at the time made it mandatory with government approval, that's fucked
Reading today that the UK is now wanting to make it mandatory to have digital ID, what the fuck is that all about? More of the state controlling your life and knowing everything about you, that needs pushing back against as well, bunch of cunts.haven't been in a pub, restaurant, concert venue, theatre since. will never, ever forgive the cunts for what they did or the gullible sheep that facilitated the discrimination/tyranny
XKhammer wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 20:14Ceasar wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 18:33 NATO at War With Russia, Kremlin Says
Published Sep 15, 2025 at 6:20 AM EDT
NATO is "at war with Russia" over Ukraine, the spokesman for Russian President Vladimir President has said.The comments by Dmitry Peskov come amid a spike in tensions between the alliance and Moscow following Poland's shooting down of Russian drones that entered the alliance member's airspace last week.Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski said at the time that the drone incursion was a ploy by Russia to test the alliance.Peskov said Monday it was "obvious" the alliance was "de facto involved in this war." Newsweek has contacted NATO for comment.
Why It Matters
NATO has not directly entered the war, nor are its troops deployed to fight, but Peskov's comments echo those made by the Kremlin and its supporters who refer to the assistance Kyiv has received from NATO allies, including the U.S.His comments highlight the friction between Moscow and NATO as concerns grow Russia is testing the alliance's resolve, with tensions heightened further after Romania said it had to deploy fighter jets in response to another incursion of its air space.
What To Know
Peskov suggested that a "de facto" war between Moscow and NATO was underway
Warsaw has triggered NATO's Article 4, alerting fellow allies to a significant threat to its territorial integrity and formally starting consultations on how to respond, in response to the recent Russian drone incursion into Poland—which Moscow says lacks evidence.This step is less severe than invoking Article 5 which obliges allies to collective defense if one of them comes under armed attack.
But on the heels of the alarm raised by that incident, another NATO member, Romania, scrambled F-16 fighter jets on Saturday after a Russian drone breached its airspace, which has become a frequent occurrence in the war.The Russian ambassador to Bucharest was summoned over the "violation of Romania's sovereignty", said Romanian foreign minister Oana Toiu.The UK Foreign Office said on Monday the Russian ambassador to London had been summoned following Moscow's "unprecedented violation" of Polish and Romanian airspace, describing the incursions as "utterly unacceptable."
Meanwhile, Lithuania and Poland have deployed extra troops along their borders in response to the joint military drills between Belarus and Russia— the so-called Zapad-2025 war games—that began on Friday.Poland's foreign minister Sikorski said Russia had tried to test NATO's reactions by small escalations without prompting a full-scale response.Michael Butler, political science professor at Clark University, told Newsweek the deployment of Russian drones into Poland's airspace was the opening salvo of a new front in Moscow's ongoing hybrid war against the West.
He said the use of drones and disinformation were designed to probe Poland's potential security vulnerabilities while simultaneously buffeting the country with confusing and false reports about the strike and its effects via social media.What People Are Saying
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, per Russian state media:
"NATO is at war with Russia. This is obvious, and it does not require any additional evidence."He added: "NATO provides direct and indirect support to the Kyiv regime.
"Michael Butler, professor and chair of the Department of Political Science at Clark University, told Newsweek:
"The synchronized use of drones and disinformation were clearly designed to probe Poland's potential security vulnerabilities...the brazen use of these tactics against Poland should sound alarm bells for NATO and the U.S."
What Happens Next
NATO has said it would deploy more jets to the alliance's eastern flank to protect against future drone attacks but the expectation among the bloc will be that further devices will enter it7s territory, which could further inflame tensions.
https://www.newsweek.com/nato-russia-wa ... in-2129891
FMOB!Ah bless you shitting yourself with conspiracy theory bollocks you Putin apologist moron
Sydney_Iron wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 22:31 Think the biggest issue with vaccines is your right to choose without being discriminated against if you choose not too! All that shit with Covid and having to show proof (here in Oz, expect UK was the same) you had been vaccinated just to get into restaurants, pubs or even go to work etc was a disgrace and rightly needed pushing back against, i chose to have the jabs as believed in the science but in many ways had no choice either as my employer at the time made it mandatory with government approval, that's fucked
Reading today that the UK is now wanting to make it mandatory to have digital ID, what the fuck is that all about? More of the state controlling your life and knowing everything about you, that needs pushing back against as well, bunch of cunts.
Ceasar wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 18:33 NATO at War With Russia, Kremlin Says
Published Sep 15, 2025 at 6:20 AM EDT
NATO is "at war with Russia" over Ukraine, the spokesman for Russian President Vladimir President has said.The comments by Dmitry Peskov come amid a spike in tensions between the alliance and Moscow following Poland's shooting down of Russian drones that entered the alliance member's airspace last week.Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski said at the time that the drone incursion was a ploy by Russia to test the alliance.Peskov said Monday it was "obvious" the alliance was "de facto involved in this war." Newsweek has contacted NATO for comment.
Why It Matters
NATO has not directly entered the war, nor are its troops deployed to fight, but Peskov's comments echo those made by the Kremlin and its supporters who refer to the assistance Kyiv has received from NATO allies, including the U.S.His comments highlight the friction between Moscow and NATO as concerns grow Russia is testing the alliance's resolve, with tensions heightened further after Romania said it had to deploy fighter jets in response to another incursion of its air space.
What To Know
Peskov suggested that a "de facto" war between Moscow and NATO was underway
Warsaw has triggered NATO's Article 4, alerting fellow allies to a significant threat to its territorial integrity and formally starting consultations on how to respond, in response to the recent Russian drone incursion into Poland—which Moscow says lacks evidence.This step is less severe than invoking Article 5 which obliges allies to collective defense if one of them comes under armed attack.
But on the heels of the alarm raised by that incident, another NATO member, Romania, scrambled F-16 fighter jets on Saturday after a Russian drone breached its airspace, which has become a frequent occurrence in the war.The Russian ambassador to Bucharest was summoned over the "violation of Romania's sovereignty", said Romanian foreign minister Oana Toiu.The UK Foreign Office said on Monday the Russian ambassador to London had been summoned following Moscow's "unprecedented violation" of Polish and Romanian airspace, describing the incursions as "utterly unacceptable."
Meanwhile, Lithuania and Poland have deployed extra troops along their borders in response to the joint military drills between Belarus and Russia— the so-called Zapad-2025 war games—that began on Friday.Poland's foreign minister Sikorski said Russia had tried to test NATO's reactions by small escalations without prompting a full-scale response.Michael Butler, political science professor at Clark University, told Newsweek the deployment of Russian drones into Poland's airspace was the opening salvo of a new front in Moscow's ongoing hybrid war against the West.
He said the use of drones and disinformation were designed to probe Poland's potential security vulnerabilities while simultaneously buffeting the country with confusing and false reports about the strike and its effects via social media.What People Are Saying
Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said, per Russian state media:
"NATO is at war with Russia. This is obvious, and it does not require any additional evidence."He added: "NATO provides direct and indirect support to the Kyiv regime.
"Michael Butler, professor and chair of the Department of Political Science at Clark University, told Newsweek:
"The synchronized use of drones and disinformation were clearly designed to probe Poland's potential security vulnerabilities...the brazen use of these tactics against Poland should sound alarm bells for NATO and the U.S."
What Happens Next
NATO has said it would deploy more jets to the alliance's eastern flank to protect against future drone attacks but the expectation among the bloc will be that further devices will enter it7s territory, which could further inflame tensions.
https://www.newsweek.com/nato-russia-wa ... in-2129891
FMOB!
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑25 Sep 2025, 18:47 the elites/politicians need a mass depopulation event to make more room for the new arrivals, so what better than to send all you thick cunts sons & daughters to go and fight for the money laundering cock pianist