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Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 26 May 2025, 20:02
by stubbo-admin
May as well get going with this since with Sullivan at the helm, season ticket renewals slow, and the football vacuum to commence, this will soon be all the "news" there is.
Can Potter and MacCauley pull multiple rabbits out of the hat, or will Sullivan 'try really hard' with all of them before grabbing a few aging bargains from Big Willie Salthouse?
Window this close season comes in two parts:
Part 1: 1st June to 10th June
Part 2: 16th June to 1st September
Rumoured Outs...most of the squad
Let the "Rumoured In's" commence.
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Player | Position | Club | Fee (GBP)
Rumoured In
- Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic
- Koni De Winter | CB | Genoa
- Morten Frendrup | DM | Genoa
- Richard Kone | ST | Wycombe
- Aaron Ramsdale | GK | Southampton
- Caiomin Kelleher | GK | Liverpool
- James Trafford | GK | Burnley
- Kyle Walker-Peters | FB | Free Agent
- Taylor Harwood-Bellis | CB | Southampton
- CJ Egan-Riley | CB | Free Agent
- Josh Brownhill | CM | Free Agent
- Albian Hajdari | CB | Lugano
- Lucas Høgsberg | CB | FC Nordsjælland
- Ardon Jashari | CM | Brugge
- Raphael Onyedika | CM | Brugge
- James McAtee | AM | Man City
- Mario Struykens | AM | Anderlecht
- Mathias Kvistgaarden | ST | Brondby
- Clement Bischoff | LB | Brondby
- Mika Biereth | FW | Monaco
- Barış Alper Yılmaz | AM | Galatasaray
- Evann Guessand | ST | Nice
- Lucas Stassin | ST | Saint Etienne
- Marcus Taverner | FW | Bournemouth
- Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco
- Valentin Atangana | CM | Stade Reims
- Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester City
- Hamza Igamane | ST | Rangers
- Yeremay | FW | Deportivo La Coruna
- Adama Bojang | ST | Reims
- Rocco Reitz | MF | Borussia Moenchengladbach
- Dominic Calvert-Lewin | ST | Free Agent
- El Hadji Malick Diouf | LB | SK Slavia Prague
- Oscar Mingueza | RB/MF | Celta Vigo
- Tyler Morton | CM | Liverpool
- Harvey Elliott | AM | Liverpool
- Zion Suzuki | GK | Parma
- John Victor | GK | Botofogo
- Jacob Ramsey | MF | Villa
- Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton
- Nga Makou | CM | Lille
- Quinten Timber | CM
- Hayden Hackney | CM | Boro
- Yves Bissouma | CM | Spurs
Rumoured Out
- Nayef Aguerd | CB | Leverkusen, Marseile
- Maxel Cornet | FW | Genoa/Others
- Guido Rodriguez | DM | Betis/Espanyol
- Tomas Soucek | CM | Everton
- Michail Antonio | ST | Free Agent
- Mo Kudus | FW | Chelsea/Newcastle/Arsenal
- Lucas Paqueta | AM | Man City
- Andy Irving | CM | Celtic/Wrexham
- Emerson | LB | Marseille
Confirmed In
- Jean Clair Todibo | CB | Loan To Perm (32m)
- Daniel Cummings | ST | Celtic (Free Agent...Tribunal)
- El Hadji Malick Diouf | LWB | Slavia Prahia | 20m
- Kyle Walker-Peters | RWB | Free Agent
- C****m Wilson | ST | Free Agent
- Mads Hermansen | GK | Leicester (18m)
- Mateus Fernandes | CM | Southampton (38m + 4m)
- Soungoutoo Magassa | CDM | Monaco (17m)
- Igor Julio | CB | Brighton (Loan)
Confirmed Out
- Aaron Cresswell | LB | Free Agent | 0m
- Danny Ings | ST | Free Agent | 0m
- Vladimir Coufal | RB | Free Agent | 0m
- Lukusz Fabianski | GK | Free Agent | 0m
- Kamari Swyer | AM | Free Agent | 0m
- Kurt Zouma | CB | Free Agent | 0m
- Carlos Soler | CM | PSG | End of Loan
- Evan Ferguson | ST | Brighton | End of Loan
- Brad Dolaghan | Released
- Dondre Abraham | Released
- Mehmet Halim | Released
- Muhammed Judus |stroppy| sp*rs| £55m
- Michail Antonio | Released
- Kieran Casey | Swansea | Loan
- Edson Alvarez | Fenerbache | Loan with Option
- Emerson | Marseille | £1m
- Aguerd | Marseille | £20m
- Max Cornet | Genoa | Loan
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 21:27
by southbankbornnbred
Don't get me wrong - I don't think Areola is a great keeper or anything like that. He's an excellent shot-stopper, but I agree he's wonky on crosses and his distribution is often poor.
It's just that some people assumed Kelleher is better because he's at Liverpool. But when he played a succession of games, he showed he has a lot to improve. That's why Slot is happy to offload him.
I think we could do better. And better than Areola. But we need a striker and some midfielders who can run first!
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 21:17
by Massive Attack
Iron Duke" wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 21:10
*sticks head in oven, but gives up when realises it’s electric*
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 21:10
by Iron Duke
I think Kelleher is a good keeper and Brentford have done a decent bit of business.
But I’m sure we will pick up someone better for a good price. Maybe Brighton’s reserve goalie.
*sticks head in oven, but gives up when realises it’s electric*
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 20:47
by goose
Fabianski has gone so one way or another we need a new goal tender.
Maybe someone slightly younger to push Areola?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 20:44
by nychammer
Areola is a top class stopper. He's made some critical saves and kept us in games. His distribution, however is poor and he's made some proper stupid errors (Forest Game). I'm not sure we'll do a whole lot better unless we pay top dollar, which we wont, and signing a keeper, while we must do so, is not the top priority
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 20:19
by Massive Attack
Areola's dogshit, other than the occasional flash save he can pull off. Shit at commanding a defence, shit at claiming for crosses often glued to his goal line even though he's 6ft 5, can't pass for shit with his feet unless straight to the opposition, he even has shit haircuts. Get rid regardless of if it's Kelleher or not, who I don't think is a bad Keeper if not top quality.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 20:11
by onsideman
Opinions and arseholes and all that.
For all his wonder saves I think Areola is a bit of a liability, indecisive under high balls and with god awful distribution. I dont think there were many in for him when we signed him from PSG for £10m as a number 2, if that's your benchmark
And the fact that a 40 year old Fabianski was at least as good says a lot
I appreciate others may think otherwise
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 19:56
by Steady
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 19:17
Looks like Brentford will land Kelleher for around £12.5m, and a bunch of (mostly young) West Ham fans on social media are crying into their energy drinks.
The fact that Liverpool initially wanted £20m+ for him, and not a single club bit at that price, should tell you a lot.
Promising keeper, but not a lot more at this stage. He has some obvious weaknesses that he needs to iron out. Areola, for all of his flaws, is a better keeper. If we are going to sign a new bloke between the sticks, then 'better than Areola' has to be the benchmark. Otherwise, what's the point?
Agreed, Areola is as good if not better, I don’t get the Kelleher hype. If we want a new keeper, then get a top class keeper like Pickford
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 19:17
by southbankbornnbred
Looks like Brentford will land Kelleher for around £12.5m, and a bunch of (mostly young) West Ham fans on social media are crying into their energy drinks.
The fact that Liverpool initially wanted £20m+ for him, and not a single club bit at that price, should tell you a lot.
Promising keeper, but not a lot more at this stage. He has some obvious weaknesses that he needs to iron out. Areola, for all of his flaws, is a better keeper. If we are going to sign a new bloke between the sticks, then 'better than Areola' has to be the benchmark. Otherwise, what's the point?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 19:14
by Massive Attack
goose wrote: ↑01 Jun 2025, 17:18
Last year they lost £90m.
The year before they lost £120m.
Boehly has spent over a billion and got nowhere near winning anything significant.
Since he’s taken over they’ve been an absolute mess.
And that's the point. They have spent a huge fortune on what they achieve/or don't achieve if the Europa Conference Cup is the best they can win these days. Fuck all clever about it.
We achieved winning that by spending a lot less.
https://www.football365.com/news/transf ... d-man-city
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 18:42
by twoleftfeet
I thought this was a West Ham transfer thread?
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 17:18
by goose
Last year they lost £90m.
The year before they lost £120m.
Boehly has spent over a billion and got nowhere near winning anything significant.
Since he’s taken over they’ve been an absolute mess.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 16:56
by Lee Trundle
Gank wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 10:26
I feel grubby talking up Chelsea, it's a horrible plastic club with weird fans, but credit where it's due, they're miles better than us at the financial and business parts of football. Whilst that's not difficult with the way we're run, they're also better at it than most well-run clubs as well.
Exactly this.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 01 Jun 2025, 16:41
by Sir Alf
If we were to make one signing in this early window which is open to 10th June, I might be less cynical. Ideally it would be an athletic, pacy, central midfielder since that is imho the priority area for any rebuild. This Onyedicka sounds perfect especially his name
But we hear Sullivan is on his yacht for the next week or 2 and Macaulay and Potter still identifying targets and besides we have to sell. Hence all pointing to late window activity after the season starts with cast offs and has beens from Salthouse and Silkman once Sullivan has sabotaged negotiations on deals for the young, hungry type players that Potter and Macaulay are supposedly targeting.
We’ve seen this play out so many times. Yes we got AWB last season that way but anyone who has watched Sullivan in the transfer market these last 15 years at West Ham and the years at Brum knows without doubt that this was an exception. Its usually older, high wage players that were good a few years back at some big name club ( razzle dazzle ).
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 21:02
by El Scorchio
Sir Alf" wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 16:43
A typical and likely scenario will be this Onyedika fella in the Belgian league who is supposedly a top target for our low energy, old midfield.
We will bid late, allowing other clubs to get involved. They want £24 million, Sullivan will open with loan to buy, the derisory £15 million, then up it to £20 million but with 7 year repayment terms and finally “take it or leave it” £21 million. Sullivan will also refuse to pay agent fees. Around late July/ early August, after weeks of Sullivan negotiations from his “art of the deal playbook”, Everton or some other club will meet or be close to meeting the valuation and wrap everything up in 2 or 3 days. The message will go out that the selling club were difficult or ahents caused problems before waiting until end of window when a Salthouse or Silkman client, 28 years or more old, played for big Prem club, appears from left field. And so it goes on.
Sully like Trump or any narcissist, loves a negotiation, a deal and the power they have in that process. Its a form of validation. Its why Trump passes every bill via an executive order and not via congress or the house. It all goes thru him and he gets the final say. Sullivan very similar and why a DOF was never appointed but a half arsed Tech Director.
In short, if Macaulay and Potter have targets I expect very few if any primary ones to be secured. The “ sell before we buy” excuse ready in place to make sure we can lose out on some targets and / or be able to string them out until the eventual collapse. Then Sully saves the day via his agents.
Yup. 100%
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 18:23
by nychammer
boleyn8420 wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:48
Funniest thing I've read on here, can't remember from who, but it went something like "A top player might not get his transfer to a CL club so then we become the next best thing"
We are so off being the next best thing it's untrue. After CL clubs, come those in the other European spots, which makes even Palace more attractive than us. I was going to say then those clubs who finished above us but forgot the Mancs were below us and they come ahead of us as well. Nope we will be in the basement bargain and free transfer end of the market. Ffs
As much as we love these expensive marquee signings occasionally, they mostly don't work out because even if we do manage to sign them, the penny soon drops that they are playing in a side that cannot deliver top trophies or regular European Football. They will sparkle in patches in a side that generally does not complement their talent, performances become inconsistent, attitudes moody and invariably they want out after a season or two. We need to sign the right players who are talented, hungry to play PL football and will help us to rebuild and improve us to the point where we are a competitive top half side which can carry those top talented players and where they make us better (Example in point - Kudus will go to Arsenal and Improve them as a side overall).
It's easier said than done of course and rebuilding our squad will take time and we have to trust Potter knows what he's doing.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 17:48
by boleyn8420
Funniest thing I've read on here, can't remember from who, but it went something like "A top player might not get his transfer to a CL club so then we become the next best thing"
We are so off being the next best thing it's untrue. After CL clubs, come those in the other European spots, which makes even Palace more attractive than us. I was going to say then those clubs who finished above us but forgot the Mancs were below us and they come ahead of us as well. Nope we will be in the basement bargain and free transfer end of the market. Ffs
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 17:37
by Steady
Ladysmith wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 17:23
As we could get them on a free, I would punt both Sergio Reguilon and Alfie Whiteman.
No thanks, they’re Spurs level kind of players, 17th place standard
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 17:23
by Ladysmith
As we could get them on a free, I would punt both Sergio Reguilon and Alfie Whiteman.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 16:43
by Sir Alf
A typical and likely scenario will be this Onyedika fella in the Belgian league who is supposedly a top target for our low energy, old midfield.
We will bid late, allowing other clubs to get involved. They want £24 million, Sullivan will open with loan to buy, the derisory £15 million, then up it to £20 million but with 7 year repayment terms and finally “take it or leave it” £21 million. Sullivan will also refuse to pay agent fees. Around late July/ early August, after weeks of Sullivan negotiations from his “art of the deal playbook”, Everton or some other club will meet or be close to meeting the valuation and wrap everything up in 2 or 3 days. The message will go out that the selling club were difficult or ahents caused problems before waiting until end of window when a Salthouse or Silkman client, 28 years or more old, played for big Prem club, appears from left field. And so it goes on.
Sully like Trump or any narcissist, loves a negotiation, a deal and the power they have in that process. Its a form of validation. Its why Trump passes every bill via an executive order and not via congress or the house. It all goes thru him and he gets the final say. Sullivan very similar and why a DOF was never appointed but a half arsed Tech Director.
In short, if Macaulay and Potter have targets I expect very few if any primary ones to be secured. The “ sell before we buy” excuse ready in place to make sure we can lose out on some targets and / or be able to string them out until the eventual collapse. Then Sully saves the day via his agents.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 14:17
by Swiss.
MacAtee and Ramsdale I like.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 13:01
by honky cat
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 09:18
Understand that Daniel Cummings from Celtic is now done
Will join on July 1 for £300,000 training compensation
Was reading an article about Richard Kone from Wycombe
Didnt realise he is only 21. Would often check their results to see how Kodua was getting on & Kone always sounded like their biggest threat
Anyone seen him play? Does he have it to step up?
He seems to have had a bit of a colourful early life so he would be a gamble, depends on the fee. Has links to Newham, so maybe our Academy have already looked at him and decided he wasn't for us.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 10:26
by Gank
I'd agree that morally, they're finding ways to cheat the system which puts clubs who play by the rules at a disadvantage.
However, it's such a grubby business that I wish we would do it as well, I have been impressed by their genius accountants on many occasions from moving buildings around companies all held by one group and repeatedly moving the profits onto the club to effectively selling their women's section to themselves for a hugely inflated fee.
Of course, had they kept all the players you listed,they'd probably have been top two every year for a decade but to even be in a position to lose that pedigree of player and still finish above most teams every year shows that at the very least, their shady deals fund a quite superb recruitment team. As you say, having a top recruitment team doesn't equal a top transfer team as they've let them go for nothing.
I feel grubby talking up Chelsea, it's a horrible plastic club with weird fans, but credit where it's due, they're miles better than us at the financial and business parts of football. Whilst that's not difficult with the way we're run, they're also better at it than most well-run clubs as well.
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 10:07
by onsideman
OK, I'll bite.
Well the talk was of the balls-out way in which they spend hundreds upon hundreds of millions in the transfer market by managing to somehow out-flank the rules on P&S rules by, for example, selling their hotel to the ownership group for an inflated price.
So we were talking about their transfer policy, not youth recruitment.
There isn't any world in which recruiting the players I mentioned as examples, letting them go for little or nothing and then buying inferior players for tens of millions is to be applauded
Re: Summer Transfer Window 2025 | Official Thread
Posted: 31 May 2025, 09:55
by Gank
onsideman wrote: ↑31 May 2025, 08:11
Gank wrote: ↑30 May 2025, 18:09
onsideman wrote: ↑30 May 2025, 13:40
Erm... no it means they've got rid of a number of players that are better than most of those they currently have
So they DID get it right by having them in the first place.
Well that's such twisted logic I'm going to have to conclude you're on a wind up so I'll leave it there
Sorry for adding one more comment after you wanting to leave it there, but I wanted to let you know that I'm not on a wind up, I am trying to point out that your examples of their transfer policy mistakes highlights how superb their recruitment policy must have been in order for them to make those mistakes.