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"There is a very good section on GB news where the ludicrous idiocies of Wokeness are looked at I thought we would should have one for WHO. I'll start with Baptiste on BBC: In Hungary,an ambassador's family are kidnapped by Islamic terrorists and carry out atrocities. At the end of the last episode Baptiste finds out that it is a false flag operation and conveniently, the real culprits are white supremacists who want to stop all immigration. Coronation Street ITV a gay black footballer is stopped by the police, because he is driving an expensive car. He is pushed to the ground during an altercation, and damages his leg threatening his career. Could have been written by Dawn Butler or a BLM activist."

"Debs I get it's rhetorical. However you've also recognised that they are already protected in law for employment, housing etc. But ""trans rights are human rights"" remains the slogan at every public trans event. This slogan means access for trans identifying males (Tim's) to female spaces. The policies of Stonewall and other trans organisations are explicitly to recognise Tim's as women in law. And the rest of you should really stop biting to h and P. He Must just be on a massive ongoing wind up. Unlike Debs he can't follow any basic line of reasoning. Like talking to a brick wall. Must just be the greatest fisherman in the history of WHO"

"well it doesn't need to be, i can answer your question for you: ""trans people"" have the same access to jobs as you or I, they have the same access to housing and are afforded the same protection from the law."

Yes goose. As I was actually responding to Fifths post I am sure he'd respond if he didn't pick.up on it being rhetorical. Don't you think?

Eh? One was customer I didn't know well and one was an old uni friend who I lost touch with. I assume they'd only need one place setting each. Or at least tbe one I was friends with did when she ate at ours. Her brother used to tease her about why she bothered wearing a bra though. Asking her if she'd wear gloves if she had no hands

So this was rhetorical? I mean I'd hope you'd not think that just because someone is transitioning they should be discriminated against for jobs or housing or just being afforded the same protection under the law as you or I do not to be harassed or attacked?

"If they are coming to dinner, how many extra places do you set?"

Goose it was a rhetorical question. Coffee I've known 2and was very good friends with one. The other wasn't someone I knew well but used to come in as a customer when I worked at Morrisons.

Goose it was a rhetorical question. Coffee I've known and was very good friends with one. The other wasn't someone I knew well but used to come in as a customer when I worked at Morrisons.

"I've never consciously known anyone who claims to be trans or identifies as a different gender. And to the best of my knowledge, I don't know anyone who does know such a person. Have I been blinkered all my life, or just ignorant?"

"Darlos Deb is on a wind up, I applaud 'They' for doing it though. I couldn't hold on to this bullshit without being obvious. Darlos a bit like all other people on here, thank two normal people for my existence. As many people as possible can identify as toast racks as far as I am concerned so they will be lost to existence"

"Darlos Deb is on a wind up, I applaud 'They' for doing it though. I couldn't hold on to this bullshit without being obvious. Darlos a bit like all other people on here, thank two normal people for my existence. As many people as possible can identify as toast racks as far as I am concerned so they will be lost to existence"

I know you are special Pointy but my sons have somehow combined knowing some trans people without having a million mates. Has this ruined your day? Oh good.

"So are you saying they’re being denied their legal rights then Debs? Pickle was bullied at school, hence his hatred for any whiff of masculinity. He hates men, he despises any form of strength or masculinity. He has spent his life being emasculated by other men and now by his wife."

Goose I didn't actually say they don't have those rights under equality laws.

"This sounds like a serious issue. Just to check before we abandon all our efforts to educate children on all matters relating to non-binary sexual identity, what is the scale of this issue? I mean, compared to say the problem of common-or-garden domestic violence committed by heterosexual males on their female partners and their children, what is the scale of men pretending to identify as women to get into female prisons? Just how BIG is it?"

"Hammer and Pickle 8:09 Sat Jun 24 'when I look at my boys and their friends of a similar age and background, I can say that while the vast majority are heterosexual, there is the normal proportion of gay and trans,' Unless your boys have about a million mates, the 'normal proportion' of them who will be trans is zero. Silly cսnt."

What rights are currently denied to ‘trans’ people?

"Fifth the men in women's prisons thing is bloody so obviously men trying it on to get into a womens prison, snd in some cases risking women's safety no doubt. There is a way around this though. If a man is claiming (after being imprisoned) that he all of a sudden identifies as female then he has to identify as a woman in a male prison for two years and cannot enter a female prison until.he was post op and therefore medically speaking a female. The idea of losing his meat n two veg would certainly prevent a bloke seeking to harm women think twice, and only the toughest of actual trans men would get through living as a female for 2 years in a male prison. Still of tbe mind that this is just a distraction though. ..and doesn't recognise the shit that many trrans people have to deal.with. That said if someone identifying as female but not yet female should deffo not be allowed into certain female spaces that is common sense. Eg women's refuges . There are issues to be addressed clearly but that can be done without denying rights. I mean I'd hope you'd not think that just because someone is transitioning they should be discriminated against for jobs or housing or just being afforded the same protection under the law as you or I do not to be harassed or attacked?"

"Fifth the men in women's prisons thing is bloody so obviously men trying it on to get into a womens prison, snd in some cases risking women's safety no doubt. There is a way around this though. If a man is claiming (after being imprisoned) that he all of a sudden identifies as female then he has to identify as a woman in a male prison for two years and cannot enter a female prison until.he was post op and therefore medically speaking a female. The idea of losing his meat n two veg would certainly prevent a bloke seeking to harm women think twice, and only the toughest of actual trans men would get through living as a female for 2 years in a male prison. Still of tbe mind that this is just a distraction though. ..and doesn't recognise the shit that many trrans people have to deal.with. That said if someone identifying as female but not yet female should deffo not be allowed into certain female spaces that is common sense. Eg women's refuges . There are issues to be addressed clearly but that can be done without denying rights. I mean I'd hope you'd not think that just because someone is transitioning they should be discriminated against for jobs or housing or just being afforded the same protection under the law as you or I do not to be harassed or attacked?"

"I went somewhere last week and the idiot mother described her children as 'Its', they were not boys or girls..........."

"Well done the team for telling them to basically fuck off, but what is the world coming too when the word Bacon is seen as problematic? The Macon Bacon – a collegiate summer league baseball team in Georgia – was recently sent a lengthy letter from The Physicians Committee of Responsible Medicine calling for the team to change its name and stop “glorifying” unhealthy food. But the team has made it clear that it has no intention of changing its name."

De Santis is anti woke and anti abortion in any circumstances. Glad I'm woke

"The entire thing is a fucking charade by middle class white kids who are desperate to be unique and get some attention. Their parents allow this shit to go on, partly out of being scared of not being inclusive and partly because the medical profession tells them their kid is better off trans than dead. There’s no black trans boys in Compton or the bronx and there’s no Hispanic ones either. There’s no trans boys or girls in tottenham."

https://youtu.be/mMBzfUj5zsg Bill mahr (liberal American comedian) on this. Makes a very good ppint about the fact that it's regional.

"Fucking hell, that's a serious change of direction for the karate instructor's boys in such a short space of time. A couple of years ago, they were crying in the street when they first clapped eyes on a person of colour."