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The Official Politics Thread (enter at your own risk)

Posted: 09 Dec 2024, 09:19
by Come On You Irons
There. Resident WHO political commentators and gurus can knock yourselves out in here and conduct your endless bickering. All other threads will be locked.

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Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 17:46
by Hammer and Pickle
"It turns out an investigation carried out after this decision, by the Romanian tax authority found that the PNL party paid something like 1m USD to Kensington Consulting to carry out a social media campaign on behalf of Georgescu to peel voters away from PNL's opposition"

What, the Romanian National Liberal Party were also using these methods to campaign for Georgescu? How devilishly cunning of them.

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Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 17:40
by riosleftsock
Not the best using google translate, but its on here and other sites

https://snoop.ro/anaf-a-descoperit-ca-p ... pe-tiktok/

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Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 17:36
by riosleftsock
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 22 Dec 2024, 10:58
riosleftsock wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 23:23
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 20:38 It's a good thing for Romania that their consitiutional court has looked at the evidence of social media meddling and has made its ruling. However, the political establishment in Romania is, by all accounts, seriously in need of a proper kick up the arse. It's just that becoming a satellite of the Kremlin is not going to deliver the required results.

https://www.ifes.org/publications/roman ... -integrity
Is this another article that you haven't actually read properly, but posted because the headline seemed to support your argument?

I'm off to bed soon, is it ok if I make you look an idiot tomorrow?
No. It supports my position just fine. 

"Historically, annulments have typically been associated with clear procedural errors or fraud, but the Romanian ruling signifies an important shift; the court’s decision highlighted the impact of the extensive deployment of artificial intelligence (AI), automated systems, and coordinated information integrity campaigns on electoral integrity, among other findings of interference. The Court determined that these actions skewed voter perceptions, deprived candidates of equitable opportunities, and violated voters’ rights to make informed choices."

You make me look like an idiot just by having to treat with you; but its a job that has to be done or else you'll spam the site down to your level in no time. 
Pickle, the cancelled/annulled the election claiming russian interference/finance and undue influence via tiktok etc.  It turns out an investigation carried out after this decision, by the Romanian tax authority found that the PNL party paid something like 1m USD to Kensington Consulting to carry out a social media campaign on behalf of Georgescu to peel voters away from PNL's opposition.

It will go to court shortly, but this is nothing like democracy, its using lawfare to change the results of elections that the system does not like.

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Posted: 22 Dec 2024, 10:58
by Hammer and Pickle
riosleftsock wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 23:23
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 20:38 It's a good thing for Romania that their consitiutional court has looked at the evidence of social media meddling and has made its ruling. However, the political establishment in Romania is, by all accounts, seriously in need of a proper kick up the arse. It's just that becoming a satellite of the Kremlin is not going to deliver the required results.

https://www.ifes.org/publications/roman ... -integrity
Is this another article that you haven't actually read properly, but posted because the headline seemed to support your argument?

I'm off to bed soon, is it ok if I make you look an idiot tomorrow?
No. It supports my position just fine. 

"Historically, annulments have typically been associated with clear procedural errors or fraud, but the Romanian ruling signifies an important shift; the court’s decision highlighted the impact of the extensive deployment of artificial intelligence (AI), automated systems, and coordinated information integrity campaigns on electoral integrity, among other findings of interference. The Court determined that these actions skewed voter perceptions, deprived candidates of equitable opportunities, and violated voters’ rights to make informed choices."

You make me look like an idiot just by having to treat with you; but its a job that has to be done or else you'll spam the site down to your level in no time. 

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 23:23
by riosleftsock
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 20:38 It's a good thing for Romania that their consitiutional court has looked at the evidence of social media meddling and has made its ruling. However, the political establishment in Romania is, by all accounts, seriously in need of a proper kick up the arse. It's just that becoming a satellite of the Kremlin is not going to deliver the required results.

https://www.ifes.org/publications/roman ... -integrity
Is this another article that you haven't actually read properly, but posted because the headline seemed to support your argument?

I'm off to bed soon, is it ok if I make you look an idiot tomorrow?

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 20:38
by Hammer and Pickle
It's a good thing for Romania that their consitiutional court has looked at the evidence of social media meddling and has made its ruling. However, the political establishment in Romania is, by all accounts, seriously in need of a proper kick up the arse. It's just that becoming a satellite of the Kremlin is not going to deliver the required results.

https://www.ifes.org/publications/roman ... -integrity

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 14:50
by riosleftsock
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 11:09 Romania and Bulgaria were accepted into Schengen on 12th and the election is to be re-run. It is widely accepted that the evidence of massive Kremlin meddling is overwhelming so there has been very little real-world fallout.

More interesting is the diplomatic row between Budapest and Warsaw/Brussels following the granting of political asylum to a PiS MP charged with the embezzlement of vast amounts of public money. Like all Putin stooges, Orban is clearly incapable of distinguishing his political interest and that of the public and state. His mates in PiS are no different however much they froth and posture - they are all Kremlin operatives.
The evidence is so overwhelming they have failed to produce a single piece of it.  The wrong candidate won so they had to cancel the election result to save their shared democratic values and rule of law.

They tried the same schtick in Georgia too.

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 13:51
by Nutsin
Hammer and Pickle" wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 09:32
It was the shutdown of government that was narrowly averted despite Elon Musk and his leering lapdog Donald Trump.

I know that’s too much for you to process, braincell, but there it is.
Stop being a know nothing retard, it happens every time, it always gets approved last minute after a contentious debate. Fucking spastic, 

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 11:09
by Hammer and Pickle
Romania and Bulgaria were accepted into Schengen on 12th and the election is to be re-run. It is widely accepted that the evidence of massive Kremlin meddling is overwhelming so there has been very little real-world fallout.

More interesting is the diplomatic row between Budapest and Warsaw/Brussels following the granting of political asylum to a PiS MP charged with the embezzlement of vast amounts of public money. Like all Putin stooges, Orban is clearly incapable of distinguishing his political interest and that of the public and state. His mates in PiS are no different however much they froth and posture - they are all Kremlin operatives.

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 10:07
by WHU(Exeter)
Btw, what was the fallout from the Romanian, (or was it Hungarian) election? Had so much on these last few days, I haven’t had chance to catch up.

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 10:04
by WHU(Exeter)
“And you won’t enjoy it”

Not very nice is it? You trying to ruin 1BBs Christmas or something?

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 09:54
by Hammer and Pickle
only1billybonds wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 09:38 If 'narrowly' means 85 to 11 votes in favour of approving the budget, thus avoiding a shutdown of government then I guess you have a point Celery neck.

Fucking desperate cսnt.
Problem is, however much you bluster, you and your handler “Sir Nige” are on the side that tried to make that 11 votes into a majority.

You are going to have to take responsibility for a lot more of this in the coming years. And you won’t enjoy it.

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 09:38
by only1billybonds
If 'narrowly' means 85 to 11 votes in favour of approving the budget, thus avoiding a shutdown of government then I guess you have a point Celery neck.

Fucking desperate cսnt.

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 09:32
by Hammer and Pickle
It was the shutdown of government that was narrowly averted despite Elon Musk and his leering lapdog Donald Trump.

I know that’s too much for you to process, braincell, but there it is.

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 09:12
by only1billybonds
OSD

Is that the shutdown of federal government that was avoided last night or do you know of another?

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 08:12
by goose
One Sunny Day" wrote: 21 Dec 2024, 01:24 Hasn't even got on power yet and Trump and his bum boy, Musk, have caused a Christmas government shut down. Oh well, what Americans voted for. Just glad we haven't got the orange turd in power over here.
No they haven’t.

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 01:43
by Massive Attack
We've just got a slimey turd in power instead..Image

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Posted: 21 Dec 2024, 01:24
by One Sunny Day
Hasn't even got on power yet and Trump and his bum boy, Musk, have caused a Christmas government shut down. Oh well, what Americans voted for. Just glad we haven't got the orange turd in power over here.

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Posted: 20 Dec 2024, 23:07
by Leavemyarcelona
As i said pickle and his iilk are the reason these atrocities happen

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Posted: 20 Dec 2024, 22:28
by Hammer and Pickle
Cabbige Savage" wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 22:23 I warn you all my firend hass dossyay with evry whoer on it now. Even Leonardo Hatrid and the elderly Far Kuff 

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I must be causing you much deserved suffering

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Posted: 20 Dec 2024, 22:23
by Cabbige Savage
I warn you all my firend hass dossyay with evry whoer on it now. Even Leonardo Hatrid and the elderly Far Kuff 

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Posted: 20 Dec 2024, 22:19
by Hammer and Pickle
Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 22:14 German terrorist said to be a Saudi doctor.




 
I’m perfectly sure they have a waiting list of frustrated Irish NHS orderlies as well.

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Posted: 20 Dec 2024, 22:14
by Jaan Kenbrovin
German terrorist said to be a Saudi doctor.



 

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Posted: 20 Dec 2024, 22:08
by Hammer and Pickle
Massive Attack" wrote: 20 Dec 2024, 22:07 He's certainly got some brass neck when coming out with the 'Y' word.. Image
That’s so creative Brenty. Do it again 

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Posted: 20 Dec 2024, 22:07
by Massive Attack
He's certainly got some brass neck when coming out with the 'Y' word.. Image