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goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:49

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:44

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:34

Yeh they all knew they were wrong but went ahead and published their models anyway for a laugh.
They are all wrong.
Literally dozens of the most respected economists on the planet.

Maybe they should try Facebook for their info instead.

No, not all were wrong. Just the propagandists you pay attention to.

Hope that helps!

The US government are propagandists?

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:44

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:34

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:21

 

I think they already know they were dead wrong about Tariffs and Stagflation.

You’re the only idiot that’s still talking about it and that still listens to the people with a poor track record.



Now that’s comedy Gold!

Yeh they all knew they were wrong but went ahead and published their models anyway for a laugh.
They are all wrong.
Literally dozens of the most respected economists on the planet.

Maybe they should try Facebook for their info instead.

No, not all were wrong. Just the propagandists you pay attention to.

Hope that helps!

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:34

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:21

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:05

I’m not a betting man but I reckon all those well paid & well respected economists might have heard of macro and micro economics. Maybe you should email them all and tell them they’re wrong

Bravo by the way, the last couple of days have been comedy gold watching you making a show of yourself.

 

I think they already know they were dead wrong about Tariffs and Stagflation.

You’re the only idiot that’s still talking about it and that still listens to the people with a poor track record.



Now that’s comedy Gold!

Yeh they all knew they were wrong but went ahead and published their models anyway for a laugh.
They are all wrong.
Literally dozens of the most respected economists on the planet.

Maybe they should try Facebook for their info instead.

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:21

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:05

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 18:35

I think a good place for you to start would be for you to read up on the difference between Macro and Micro economics.

Good luck!

I’m not a betting man but I reckon all those well paid & well respected economists might have heard of macro and micro economics. Maybe you should email them all and tell them they’re wrong

Bravo by the way, the last couple of days have been comedy gold watching you making a show of yourself.

 

I think they already know they were dead wrong about Tariffs and Stagflation.

You’re the only idiot that’s still talking about it and that still listens to the people with a poor track record.



Now that’s comedy Gold!

Yeh they all knew they were wrong but went ahead and published their models anyway for a laugh.
They are all wrong.
Literally dozens of the most respected economists on the planet.

Maybe they should try Facebook for their info instead.

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:05

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 18:35

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:53

in which way should in interoret "this will add $360bn to the US national debt every year"?
is it some kind of special code for special people?

I think a good place for you to start would be for you to read up on the difference between Macro and Micro economics.

Good luck!

I’m not a betting man but I reckon all those well paid & well respected economists might have heard of macro and micro economics. Maybe you should email them all and tell them they’re wrong

Bravo by the way, the last couple of days have been comedy gold watching you making a show of yourself.

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:15

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:05

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 18:35

I think a good place for you to start would be for you to read up on the difference between Macro and Micro economics.

Good luck!

I’m not a betting man but I reckon all those well paid & well respected economists might have heard of macro and micro economics. Maybe you should email them all and tell them they’re wrong

Bravo by the way, the last couple of days have been comedy gold watching you making a show of yourself.

Fuck me you stuck already?

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 19:05

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 18:35

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:53

in which way should in interoret "this will add $360bn to the US national debt every year"?
is it some kind of special code for special people?

I think a good place for you to start would be for you to read up on the difference between Macro and Micro economics.

Good luck!

I’m not a betting man but I reckon all those well paid & well respected economists might have heard of macro and micro economics. Maybe you should email them all and tell them they’re wrong

Bravo by the way, the last couple of days have been comedy gold watching you making a show of yourself.

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 18:35

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:53

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:44

It’s your understanding and interpretation of the Data which is your problem.

You don’t understand what it all means.

Glad we figured out why you are so off on all your predictions.

Hope this helps.

I suggest you catch a clue.

in which way should in interoret "this will add $360bn to the US national debt every year"?
is it some kind of special code for special people?

I think a good place for you to start would be for you to read up on the difference between Macro and Micro economics.

Good luck!

I’m not a betting man but I reckon all those well paid & well respected economists might have heard of macro and micro economics. Maybe you should email them all and tell them they’re wrong

Bravo by the way, the last couple of days have been comedy gold watching you making a show of yourself.

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 18:35

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:53

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:44

It’s your understanding and interpretation of the Data which is your problem.

You don’t understand what it all means.

Glad we figured out why you are so off on all your predictions.

Hope this helps.

I suggest you catch a clue.

in which way should in interoret "this will add $360bn to the US national debt every year"?
is it some kind of special code for special people?

I think a good place for you to start would be for you to read up on the difference between Macro and Micro economics.

Good luck!

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:53

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:44

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:14

No they're the experts your government pays to do economic forecasts. The people who do this kind of thing for a living and dont just swear by some thing they read on facebook.

oh and then PWBM who are global experts on this kind of stuff.
and the joint committee on taxation.
and the Centre on Budget and Policy Prioritees
and the Brookings and Urban Institute think tanks.

But I guess they are all just "liberal myths" again right?

It’s your understanding and interpretation of the Data which is your problem.

You don’t understand what it all means.

Glad we figured out why you are so off on all your predictions.

Hope this helps.

I suggest you catch a clue.

in which way should in interoret "this will add $360bn to the US national debt every year"?
is it some kind of special code for special people?

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:44

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:14

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:02

Showing your ignorance again. Tax cuts means a stronger consumer, a stronger consumer means an increase in tax revenue. Poor old Goose can’t see past his own nose.

Are these the  so called experts the same ones who told you we were heading for Stagflation ?

No they're the experts your government pays to do economic forecasts. The people who do this kind of thing for a living and dont just swear by some thing they read on facebook.

oh and then PWBM who are global experts on this kind of stuff.
and the joint committee on taxation.
and the Centre on Budget and Policy Prioritees
and the Brookings and Urban Institute think tanks.

But I guess they are all just "liberal myths" again right?

It’s your understanding and interpretation of the Data which is your problem.

You don’t understand what it all means.

Glad we figured out why you are so off on all your predictions.

Hope this helps.

I suggest you catch a clue.

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:14

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:02

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:56

National Debt is growing at $6bn a day............... and your response is "wait until the tax cut kicks in".
The same tax cut you're own government estimate they will add $360bn to the national debt every year?

and then you tell be to read up on economics? who says they dont get irony in america 

Showing your ignorance again. Tax cuts means a stronger consumer, a stronger consumer means an increase in tax revenue. Poor old Goose can’t see past his own nose.

Are these the  so called experts the same ones who told you we were heading for Stagflation ?

No they're the experts your government pays to do economic forecasts. The people who do this kind of thing for a living and dont just swear by some thing they read on facebook.

oh and then PWBM who are global experts on this kind of stuff.
and the joint committee on taxation.
and the Centre on Budget and Policy Prioritees
and the Brookings and Urban Institute think tanks.

But I guess they are all just "liberal myths" again right?

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 17:02

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:56

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:50

Increase in GDP and lower interest rates will help tackle the debt. Wait till the tax cuts kick in!

You might want to read up on Macro and micro economics. I think that will help!

National Debt is growing at $6bn a day............... and your response is "wait until the tax cut kicks in".
The same tax cut you're own government estimate they will add $360bn to the national debt every year?

and then you tell be to read up on economics? who says they dont get irony in america 

Showing your ignorance again. Tax cuts means a stronger consumer, a stronger consumer means an increase in tax revenue. Poor old Goose can’t see past his own nose.

Are these the  so called experts the same ones who told you we were heading for Stagflation ?

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:56

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:50

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:38

The driver of the net exports number is the significant drop off in imports (demand).
The shrinking imports number is what is driving 2% of that GDP growth figure.

Such an important indicator of domestic demand isn't a silly negative. It just underlines everything I have been telling you.
Meantime the US nation debt grew by $6bn s day in Q4. One of the fatest debt accumulation periods in US history. Are you gonna pretend that doesnt matter either?

Increase in GDP and lower interest rates will help tackle the debt. Wait till the tax cuts kick in!

You might want to read up on Macro and micro economics. I think that will help!

National Debt is growing at $6bn a day............... and your response is "wait until the tax cut kicks in".
The same tax cut you're own government estimate they will add $360bn to the national debt every year?

and then you tell be to read up on economics? who says they dont get irony in america 

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:50

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:38

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:26

 

I see you forgot to mention exports are up, the 100’s of Billikns in new Tarriff money and the huge reduction in the trade deficit numbers.

Yeah you keep picking out whatever silly negative you can find, I’ll focus on what matters.

The driver of the net exports number is the significant drop off in imports (demand).
The shrinking imports number is what is driving 2% of that GDP growth figure.

Such an important indicator of domestic demand isn't a silly negative. It just underlines everything I have been telling you.
Meantime the US nation debt grew by $6bn s day in Q4. One of the fatest debt accumulation periods in US history. Are you gonna pretend that doesnt matter either?

Increase in GDP and lower interest rates will help tackle the debt. Wait till the tax cuts kick in!

You might want to read up on Macro and micro economics. I think that will help!

National Debt is growing at $6bn a day............... and your response is "wait until the tax cut kicks in".
The same tax cut you're own government estimate they will add $360bn to the national debt every year?

and then you tell me to read up on economics? who says they dont get irony in america 

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:38

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:26

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:14

its the same data less net exports & inventories. But i'm sure you already knew that.........

domestic demand has dropped off and in turn so have imports.
strip those out and you have c2.75% of growth and an economy running on services, credit and tech capex.


i feel like i should start charging you a fee for all this teaching, you've learned a lot these last couple of days.

 

I see you forgot to mention exports are up, the 100’s of Billikns in new Tarriff money and the huge reduction in the trade deficit numbers.

Yeah you keep picking out whatever silly negative you can find, I’ll focus on what matters.

The driver of the net exports number is the significant drop off in imports (demand).
The shrinking imports number is what is driving 2% of that GDP growth figure.

Such an important indicator of domestic demand isn't a silly negative. It just underlines everything I have been telling you.
Meantime the US nation debt grew by $6bn s day in Q4. One of the fatest debt accumulation periods in US history. Are you gonna pretend that doesnt matter either?

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:26

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:14

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:10

Oh picking your data points again? 

I know big numbers scare you. What usually happens is the headline number drags the micro numbers upward with time, once the data centers are built and are functional. But don’t let that scare you. 

I’ll be back with more good news as the year progresses. Keep it tuned!

its the same data less net exports & inventories. But i'm sure you already knew that.........

domestic demand has dropped off and in turn so have imports.
strip those out and you have c2.75% of growth and an economy running on services, credit and tech capex.


i feel like i should start charging you a fee for all this teaching, you've learned a lot these last couple of days.

 

I see you forgot to mention exports are up, the 100’s of Billikns in new Tarriff money and the huge reduction in the trade deficit numbers.

Yeah you keep picking out whatever silly negative you can find, I’ll focus on what matters.

WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:24 Always have and always will only have one side Nutsin, Britain, the place of my birth.
It would be a shame if the alliance came to an end though, who knows, you might need us again one day, if it all came on top in an invasion of a superpower like Grenada

 

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:14

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:10

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:54

 

That's why i offered to walk you through the numbers. 
The idea of domestic final demand clearly goes over your head.

Oh picking your data points again? 

I know big numbers scare you. What usually happens is the headline number drags the micro numbers upward with time, once the data centers are built and are functional. But don’t let that scare you. 

I’ll be back with more good news as the year progresses. Keep it tuned!

its the same data less net exports & inventories. But i'm sure you already knew that.........

domestic demand has dropped off and in turn so have imports.
strip those out and you have c2.75% of growth and an economy running on services, credit and tech capex.


i feel like i should start charging you a fee for all this teaching, you've learned a lot these last couple of days.

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 16:10

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:54

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:48

 

I think you’ll find the GDP print is 4.4% for the 3rd quarter of 2025. And the Atlanta Fed (considered to be the most accurate) is forecasting a GDP print of a whopping 5.4% for the 4th quarter. We’ll get the actual print here soon so I’ll be sure to let you know what it comes in at. But these GDP numbers are pretty impressive, thanks to Trumps world tour of America first.


I know it hurts!

 

That's why i offered to walk you through the numbers. 
The idea of domestic final demand clearly goes over your head.

Oh picking your data points again? 

I know big numbers scare you. What usually happens is the headline number drags the micro numbers upward with time, once the data centers are built and are functional. But don’t let that scare you. 

I’ll be back with more good news as the year progresses. Keep it tuned!

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:54

Nutsin wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:48

goose wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:37

 

2.6% to 3.0% includes the capital investment.
thats in-line with Q4 in 2022, 2018 and 2019.
hardly a 'golden age'.

 

I think you’ll find the GDP print is 4.4% for the 3rd quarter of 2025. And the Atlanta Fed (considered to be the most accurate) is forecasting a GDP print of a whopping 5.4% for the 4th quarter. We’ll get the actual print here soon so I’ll be sure to let you know what it comes in at. But these GDP numbers are pretty impressive, thanks to Trumps world tour of America first.


I know it hurts!

 

That's why i offered to walk you through the numbers. 
The idea of domestic final demand clearly goes over your head.

WHU(Exeter) wrote: ↑22 Jan 2026, 15:52 Well cheers for that Nutsin.

if anything does happen to Britain, I'm sure the US can steam in near the end.

MAIFO