NFL (since 2016)

[crystal falace]

"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

[southbankbornnbred]

"I think it's several things... a) They've given up on yet another season, know that Gase is going at this point, but want to tank to get the top pick. The appeal of Lawrence, or a mega-trade, gives them a better chance of bringing in a decent coach at the end of the season. b) There aren't any decent HCs available at the moment - so no point changing mid-set. And I think it's clear that that won't give the job, longer-term to Gregg Williams (DC) so I guess they feel there is no point in handing him the interim post just yet. c) The board is utter shite. But there is even less confidence in the current 'acting' owner, Chris Johnson while the supposed 'real' owner, Woody Johnson, is currently serving as Trump's UK ambassador. Of course, after next week, Woody's boss might well change - and I doubt Biden will want Woody to keep that post. So Woody Johnson may well be back at the Jets sooner than he thought. He's almost as bad as his brother, though, so his return will hardly be celebrated!"

[Far Cough]

"Sorry, already been answered"

[Far Cough]

"sbb, what is the rationale of the Jets owners persisting with Adam GASH? Is it tanking for a top draft pick or something else?"

[southbankbornnbred]

Exactly. But the Jets are like West Ham: in need of a root-and-branch overhaul starting from board-level down. The culture of the place is just about losing because that is all these owners have ever really known (with the exception of the two years Rex Ryan's defence dominated the AFC East: and that was primarily down to Revis being ridiculously good).

[El Scorchio]

"Yeah, sadly you are right. It is painful watching an utter shit show when you look across the league and see that actually it IS possible to go from last place to a contender in not such a huge amount of time with decent leadership."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Scorch, If it were any other franchise, I'd say that you're right. But this is the Jets. The word 'masterplan' is genuinely not in our lexicon."

[El Scorchio]

southbankbornnbred 11:45 It's a masterplan by Jets ownership to secure the number one draft pick :) You'd hope...

[southbankbornnbred]

"Yeah, but that was his team-mate - and it was just a finger-poke. It seems a bit OTT, even for a 'roided-up NFL player. Mind you, we've seen worse things done for less, I guess!"

[ironsofcanada]

Southband In the video there you can see the previous play where CJGJ pokes his finger underneath the facemask of Wim's teammate. That is what they think instigated it.

[southbankbornnbred]

"Hahahaha! I wouldn't mind - it's a crap punch. I guess he felt he had to hit him with an open-palm, otherwise punching a helmet would be plain stupid. So he sort of slapped him. Handbags. Did anyone get to the bottom of why Wims went after him? Seemed quite random and if it was just a response to sledging then he's even more of an idiot."

[ironsofcanada]

For those that missed the Wims-Ceedy Duce handbags https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/nfl/12121459/wims-punches-gardner-johnson

[ironsofcanada]

"Grumpster 1:30 Mon Nov 2 ""See the chicago fella throwing punches? Ha ha, nothing like punching a bloke wearing a crash helmet"" Forgot I was going to comment on this: CJGJ - Chauncey Gardner-Johnson or Ceedy Duce as he would like to be known, the guy that drew the punch is apparently amazing at winding people up. In this case he stuck his finger into another player's mouth the play before. He is the one that Michael Thomas sucker punched in practice and picked up a team suspension as a result. If only he was as good at covering receivers."

[southbankbornnbred]

"Trundle - I'm here to serve! The thing is, I'm running out of things to complain about with him now. He's so bad that we've more or less emptied the cupboard with ridicule at this stage of the season. All I find myself doing now is diffing out more stats which show just how atrocious he is. If he tried to tie his shoelaces, he'd tie his left foot to his right, fall over and then outsource shoelace-tying duties to his defensive co-ordinator for the remainder of his lifetime. IronsofCanada - you have nothing to complain about! (Although I think you're right) ;-)"

[ironsofcanada]

Speaking of the woes of our teams - I know I really should not talk - I would switch defensive coordinators with most any team at this point. Pro Bowl/All Rookie team secondary that have digressed under ours.

[Lee Trundle]

"I actually look forward to your rants over the Idiot Gase every Monday morning, sbb!"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Btw, The more informed rumour mill suggests that Jim Harbaugh is emerhing as the favourite to take over at the Jets at the end of this season. I'll have that. I like the look of Bieniemy at Kansas (OC) to step up to HC. But persuading Harbaugh to move away from Michigan would be a very big move. He had a near-60% win record at the 49ers and has been turned Michigan around at college level. My guess is Harbaugh will wait to see whether the Jets have the #1 pick (for Lawrence) or a big trade. But bringing him in, to coach Lawrence, would be a strong start to a longer-term turnaround."

[Far Cough]

"epic Cowgirls/Vikes deal No more of those, thank you please"

[southbankbornnbred]

"I see the Jets' season just goes from strength to strength. As a Jets coach, the Idiot Gase now has more losses by a margin of 20+ points than he has wins. He's going to surpass Kotite as the worst coach in the history of the franchise, if not the NFL. I'm not mucking around - I think the WHO NFL community could throw random plays into a hat on bits of screwed up paper and randomly select a better game-winning formula than Adam Gase. Still, the inadvertent masterplan to tank to 0-16 for Lawrence or an epic Cowgirls/Vikes deal is coming along a treat..!"

[southbankbornnbred]

"Rashad was a superb receiver. Looked like a running back, wore the number of a running back, bashed cornerbacks around like a running back - but he was a receiver. Damn good hands and always found space."

[Far Cough]

Jim Brown of course in the Dirty Dozen and a few other films

[ironsofcanada]

"FC I did not know there was a Rashad connection there. Interesting. Was looking it up based on this and lots of NFL (or football in general) acting connections. Like the Rock, Carl Weathers played in the CFL. Burt Reynolds was decent running back in college, apparently. I forgot Terry Crews played quite a few NFL games. Sloth in Goonies. OJ of course.. Bunch of actors I never knew were players as well."

[Far Cough]

"irons, Tarkenton was just before my time, when I lived there, ""Ten Minute"" Tommy Kramer was the QB You may have seen the Cosby show in which Cosby's on screen wife is played by Phylicia Rashad his wife The standout catch of Rashad's career came in a December 1980 game against the Cleveland Browns. Vikings quarterback Tommy Kramer threw a Hail Mary pass to RashƒÅd that resulted in a come-from-behind 28""ì23 victory and a Central Division title for the Vikings. This became known as ""The Miracle at the Met"", or, alternatively, ""The Miracle Catch"". RashƒÅd also has the distinction of the longest play from scrimmage that didn't score a touchdown: 98 yards in a 1972 game against the Rams. Not a fan of Bradshaw but I do like Howie Long"

[ironsofcanada]

"Forget that people like Rashad had very decent to great careers before being broadcasters. Terry Bradshaw, Howie Long - same Strahan - more recent so I tend to remember him playing. Never really knew Fran Tarkenton as anything except a host of That's Incredible."

[Far Cough]

"Cook is the first Vikings player to score 4 TDs in a game since Ahmad Rashād in 1979 Bit of trivia for you, Ahmad Rashād was born Bobby MOORE, he changed his name when he converted to being a Muslim"

[Far Cough]

"FMOB, Vikings actually win a game. Dalvin Cook WOW"