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The war in Ukraine

Posted: 28 Sep 2023, 23:28
by Barty
"I miss the ""is putin about to make a big mistake"" thread"

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 01:17
by Hammer and Pickle
"Does this majority shareholder also think Putin has just won a free and fair election, also illegally held in occupied areas of Ukraine, as president of the Russian Federation?"

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:53
by goose
So Daniel Kretinsky is another Putin dupe?

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:46
by riosleftsock
"Capitol Man wrote... Re: The war in Ukraine Jaan Kenbrovin 12:12 Tue Mar 19 Re: The war in Ukraine Lord ""Whore Whore"" with his daily broadcast from Moscow. That article is from Marianne, a weekly Parisian news magazine, whose majority shareholder is Czech."

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:37
by Mike Oxsaw
Only read/hear things that you agree with. Is that what we on WHO have come to?

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:31
by Capitol Man
"Jaan Kenbrovin 12:12 Tue Mar 19 Re: The war in Ukraine Lord ""Whore Whore"" with his daily broadcast from Moscow."

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:30
by Hammer and Pickle
I’m not interested in what the man on Twitter has to say at all.

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:24
by Jaan Kenbrovin
Hammer and Pickle 12:21 Tue Mar 19 You need to ask the bloke on Twitter that wrote it?

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:22
by goose
It all started going wrong when Pickle removed his “I stand with Ukraine” Facebook filter.

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:22
by goose
It all started going wrong when Pickle removed his “I stand with Ukraine” Facebook filter.

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:21
by Hammer and Pickle
"So what’s “exceedingly rare and fascinating” about that, SBT3? Apart from painting the Ukrainians as poorly trained and incompetent, which is simply false, there is nothing even vaguely newsworthy about the piece at all."

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:12
by Jaan Kenbrovin
"Not looking good according to France defense reports. https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1767562336452440422 This is an exceedingly rare and fascinating article in French magazine Marianne, who got access to ""several confidential defense reports"" from the French army on the situation in Ukraine: https://marianne.net/monde/europe/guerre-en-ukraine-endurance-russe-echec-de-la-contre-offensive-ce-que-cache-le-virage-de-macron The situation looks exceedingly bleak for Ukraine, which might in part explain Macron's recent declarations around sending troops to Ukraine. I translated the important parts of the article: ""A Ukrainian military victory now seems impossible"" The reports Marianne consulted write that Ukraine's counter-offensive ""gradually bogged down in mud and blood and did not result in any strategic gain"" and that its planning, conceived by Kiev and Western general staffs, turned out to be ""disastrous"": ""Planners thought that once the first Russian defense lines were breached, the entire front would collapse [...] These fundamental preliminary phases were conducted without considering the moral forces of the enemy in defense: that is, the will of the Russian soldier to hold onto the terrain"". The reports also highlight ""the inadequacy of the training of Ukrainian soldiers and officers"": due to a lack of officers and a significant number of veterans, these ""Year II soldiers"" from Ukraine - often trained for ""no more than three weeks"" - were launched into an assault on a Russian fortification line that proved impregnable. Without any air support, with disparate Western equipment that was less efficient than the old Soviet material (""obsolete, easy to maintain, and capable of being used in degraded mode"", the report mentions), the Ukrainian troops had no hope of breaking through. Add to this the ""Russian super-dominance in the field of electronic jamming penalizing, on the Ukrainian side, the use of drones and command systems"". ""The Russian army is today the 'tactical and technical' reference for thinking and implementing the defensive mode,"" writes the report. Not only does Moscow have heavy engineering equipment that allowed it to construct defensive works (""almost total absence of this material on the Ukrainian side, and the impossibility for Westerners to supply it quickly"") but the 1,200 km front, known as the Sourokovine line (after a Russian general), has been mined to a huge extent. The reports also highlight that contrary to Ukraine ""the Russians have managed their reserve troops well, to ensure operational endurance."" According to this document, Moscow reinforces its units before they are completely worn out, mixes recruits with experienced troops, ensures regular rest periods in the rear... and ""always had a coherent reserve force to manage unforeseen events."" This is far from the widespread idea in the West of a Russian army sending its troops to the slaughter without counting... ""To date, the Ukrainian general staff does not have a critical mass of land forces capable of inter-arms maneuver at the corps level capable of challenging their Russian counterparts to break through its defensive line,"" concludes this confidential defense report, according to which ""the gravest error of analysis and judgment would be to continue to seek exclusively military solutions to stop the hostilities"". A French officer summarizes: ""It is clear, given the forces present, that Ukraine cannot win this war militarily."" ""The conflict entered a critical phase in December"" ""The combativeness of Ukrainian soldiers is deeply affected,"" mentions a forward-looking report for the year 2024. ""Zelensky would need 35,000 men per month, he's not recruiting half of that, while Putin draws from a pool of 30,000 volunteers per month,"" observes a military officer returned from Kiev. In terms of equipment, the balance is just as unbalanced: the failed offensive of 2023 ""tactically destroyed"" half of Kiev's 12 combat brigades. Since then, Western aid has never been so low. It is therefore clear that no Ukrainian offensive can be launched this year. ""The West can supply 3D printers to manufacture drones or loitering munitions, but can never print men,"" notes this report. ""Given the situation, it may have been decided to strengthen the Ukrainian army, not with fighters, but with support forces, in the rear, allowing Ukrainian soldiers to be freed up for the front,"" admits a senior officer, confirming a ""ramp-up"" of Western military personnel in civilian clothes. ""Besides the Americans, who allowed the New York Times to visit a CIA camp, there are quite a few Britons,"" slips a military officer, who does not deny the presence of French special forces, notably combat swimmers for training missions... ""The risk of a Russian breakthrough is real"" On February 17, Kiev had to abandon the city of Avdiivka, in the northern suburbs of Donetsk, which had until then been a fortified stronghold. ""It was both the heart and symbol of Ukrainian resistance in the Russian-speaking Donbass,"" highlights a report on the ""battle of Avdiivka,"" drawing a series of damning lessons. ""The Russians changed their modus operandi by compartmentalizing the city, and especially by using gliding bombs on a large scale for the first time,"" notes this document. When a 155mm artillery shell carries 7 kg of explosive, the gliding bomb delivers between 200 and 700 kg and can thus pierce concrete structures more than 2 m thick. A hell for Ukrainian defenses, which lost more than 1,000 men per day. Furthermore, the Russians use sound suppressors on light infantry weapons to foil acoustic detection systems on the ground. ""The decision to retreat by the Ukrainian armed forces was a surprise,"" notes this last report, highlighting ""its suddenness and lack of preparation,"" fearing that this choice was ""more endured than decided by the Ukrainian command,"" suggesting a possible onset of ""disarray."" ""The Ukrainian armed forces have tactically shown that they do not possess the human and material capabilities [...] to hold a sector of the front that is subjected to the assailant's effort,"" continues the document. ""The Ukrainian failure in Avdiivka shows that, despite the emergency deployment of an 'elite' brigade – the 3rd Azov Air Assault Brigade –, Kiev is not capable of locally restoring a sector of the front that collapses,"" alerts this last report. What the Russians will do with this tactical success remains to be seen. Will they continue in the current mode of ""nibbling and slowly shaking"" the entire front line, or will they seek to ""break through in depth""? ""The terrain behind Avdiivka allows it,"" signals this recent document, also warning that Western sources tend to ""underestimate"" the Russians, themselves adept at the practice of ""Maskirovka,"" ""appearing weak when strong."" According to this analysis, after two years of war, Russian forces have thus shown their ability to ""develop operational endurance"" that allows them to wage ""a slow and long-intensity war based on the continuous attrition of the Ukrainian army."""

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 19 Mar 2024, 00:01
by Hammer and Pickle
"Do you say Putin has a democratic mandate, SBT2? A simple yes or no will do."

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 18 Mar 2024, 23:52
by Nutsin
"So it would appear that Putin did not make a mistake after all, it looks like NATO did. Although not entirely, they have managed to expand their members during this whole episode, so both sides can claim victory I suppose."

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 18 Mar 2024, 23:40
by riosleftsock
"The majority of people in the world believe Putin won, even the Pope congratulated him. He got a lot more votes than Donald Tusk, Ursula Von Der Pirate, Mark Rutte, Leo Varadkar or Rishi Sunak. Do they have democratic mandates?"

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 18 Mar 2024, 23:09
by Hammer and Pickle
"But you fully accept the kleptocrat psycho’s electoral success, don’t you SBT 2."

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 18 Mar 2024, 22:59
by Dwight Van Mann
Hammer and Pickle 3:11 Sun Mar 17 Is Macron's missus a geezer?

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 18 Mar 2024, 22:49
by riosleftsock
Looks like the noon against Putin protest worked really well. I particularly enjoyed unlected Lord Cameron's questioning the legitmacy of Putin's election success.

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 17 Mar 2024, 15:11
by Hammer and Pickle
"Looks like what Tusk told Macron and Scholz after his NATO anniversary bash in Washington had a sobering effect. The GOP is turning full-on Kremlin troll and will block the US military support package for Ukraine prior to the presidential elections so there’s no more space for petty rivalries and backsliding. Scholz has even declared an openness to reach for frozen Russian assets to help the war effort. Where does this leave the UK when it comes to having a bearing on what happens next? Somewhat at sea, I reckon."

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 16 Mar 2024, 17:25
by Dwight Van Mann
"Capitol Man 5:14 Sat Mar 16 ""Utterly endless stream of bullshit coming out of a vile little man - what a surprise."" Please don't be so nasty about Pickle, cheers mate"

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 16 Mar 2024, 17:14
by Capitol Man
riosleftsock 1:52 Sat Mar 16 Re: The war in Ukraine Utterly endless stream of bullshit coming out of a vile little man - what a surprise.

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 16 Mar 2024, 14:22
by Hammer and Pickle
"Sarcasm is not your forte, is it SBT2?"

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 16 Mar 2024, 13:52
by riosleftsock
"Hmmm, A US democrat supporter promoting illegal election fraud and election interference in another country. What a surprise."

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 16 Mar 2024, 13:46
by Capitol Man
Who did you Putin simps vote for today - or you still waiting for citizenship in return for you endless efforts in the war?

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 20:02
by Kaiser Zoso
Printing money is a much bigger fuck you than CO2

Re: The war in Ukraine

Posted: 14 Mar 2024, 19:59
by goose
if the FED do decide to drop rates you'll know it is a political decision and not a monetary one.