Hamas attack Israel

[claret on my shirt]

"Or should i say they are attacking to get THEIR land back. Good luck to them. The World will watch and do nothing to help them as they always do, shame on us."

[Barty]

Cheers mate

[only1billybonds]

https://www.podbean.com/ea/dir-q9m38-1d0da330 There ya go Barty.

[only1billybonds]

https://www.podbean.com/ea/dir-q9m38-1d0da330 There ya go Barty.

[Barty]

Can you post a link to that interview?

[only1billybonds]

"Dwight. I've been a fan of Murray for years, I love the way he doesn't hold back. Think he puts our cowardly politicians to shame, they could do with a fraction of his bravery and decency."

[Dwight Van Mann]

only1billybonds 12:23 Wed Apr 10 Just watched that Douglas Murray interview. Very interesting

[only1billybonds]

"Although it's from back in January, Douglas Murray gives a brilliant interview to Winston Marshall on the whole issue of Israel/Palestine and the islamist threat to the west in general. Well worth a listen if you enjoy someone who isn't afraid to speak the truth regardless of who it upsets."

[The Fonz]

"Just to add on as it seemed my last post didnt include everything I wrote for some reason: However, to blame the settlements to be the main obstacle of peace is in my view inaccurate. Its the rejection that both sides do not deserve to have their own state. Yet, every time there has been talk of two states and a peace deal, which would result in clear borders, removing jews from the west bank and a two state solution it was rejected by the Palestinian Authority.... A few examples but there are many more. Peel Commission Plan (1937) United Nations Partition Plan (1947) Camp David Summit (2000) Trump Administration's Peace Plan (2020) If the hostages were back in Israel this war would have been over a long time ago."

[Lee Trundle]

*username

[Lee Trundle]

"What's the reasoning in you constantly changing your name, Goldie?"

[The Fonz]

"I think your a nutter because of this post - frank_booth 9:25 Tue Apr 9 - The advantage is that there is now no charity that wants to help in Gaza. The hospitals are gone, now the food is gone. Much easier to save bullets and let them starve to death or die of disease. I'm guessing that doesn't count in the death toll. Bollocks there are still hundreds of trucks of aid entering Gaza every day via Israel. If they wanted to shut the borders they could have. If they wanted to save bullets then they could have continued to just drop bombs and not carry out a ground invasion. - That claim is 100% false. Never mind the lies about the babies, Mark Regev himself said it wasn't 1400 people killed. They just made a mistake. One that was reported all around the world and people now believe. Even Haaretz reported the IDF killed around 300 of their own and they are the ones that killed a baby. In regards to the attack on the 7th October you think it didn't happen and that Israel is responsible for killing their own civilians? Nutter behaviour. Hamas filmed it on their Go Pros and you still don't believe it. I guess the women and children they kidnapped wanted to go with them? Even the UN found findings of rape as a weapon of war was used. Hamas didnt kill a baby yet have held one hostage since it was 10 months old? Are they the good guys in this? I presume you count every casualty in Gaza as a result of Israeli aggression? You probably don't consider the failed rockets that Hamas and the other terrorist groups launch towards Israel that fall in their own border and kill their own civilians into your calculations. Including the one that fell on a hospital that quickly went from 500 deaths to about 50 and it went very quiet when military experts said it definitely wasn't Israel's doing... But your keen to quote that Israel killed their own when trying to get a hold of what was happening on October 7th. Bias. - The third video has a large group of people but whats your point? There are a large proportion of Israeli society who aren't nutters and want an end to the war? Just to further my point 40% (quick google) of Muslims in UK want sharia law and there are 3.9 million of them. That doesn't mean our whole country wants it but if we had proportional representation then they would have quite a few MP's voicing this in Parliament. The west bank settlements are wrong. Simple as that."

[mashed in maryland]

RM10 12:56 Wed Apr 10 Used to believe exactly this but the longer it goes on the more its obvious its designed specifically to bring shit over here

[frank_booth]

"Re: Hamas attack Israel Can we all chip in and buy Tex and Frank one way tickets to Gaza You got me there! Some great counter arguments to everything I said. Well done explaining how Israel isn’t doing all this horrible shit with the support of the worlds biggest superpower which makes them the biggest superpower, to a group of people who had nothing to do with Jewish suffering but have been continually fucked over since the 40s. Oh no, you didn’t. Any response to West Bank settlements, future Gaza settlements, or a genocide disguised as self defence, or the deliberate murder of aid workers is “Go to Gaza if you love it so much.” Good one. Why don’t you go to Israel if you love it so much? Actually, you’d probably be given an Israeli passport in a second and told you’re indigenous to the Middle East despite having no relatives that have ever steeped foot on a desert. It’s just mental. Israel can do the most shady shit like kill British aid workers, steal land, sell Palestinian homes, kill as many children as it wants, ethically cleanse a land, influence foreign policy, flat out lie at every turn interviews, have all this bollocks eaten up yet surface still complains the media are antisemitic. It’s like you lot have no critical thought because those lot are Muslims. At this point, I’m sure any Israeli spokesperson could be asked what he had for breakfast and the answer would be “Well, Hamas have stole all the milk, which is why we had to murder children.” And Texas, I always knew the U.S. government was shady in it’s support of Israel, but I had no idea until this go around how much influence AIPAC and the ADL have on US politics. I feel like I’m living in some Kafka-esque nightmare where you mention dead children and someone calls you a terrorist."

[joyo]

Can we all chip in and buy Tex and Frank one way tickets to Gaza?

[Texas Iron]

Well said again Frank… And let’s not forget the 100+ civilians shot and killed chasing flour trucks… Why no independent investigation…it’s been conveniently forgotten… This has also been caught on drone video… and clearly indicates Israeli arms fire… And remember Israel has recent history of invading…bombing and killing thousands of Palestinians in Gaza…” Mowing the Lawn “ is the terminology of Israel for at least 3 of these in recent years… Systematic destruction of infrastructure…medical facilities…schools…universities…mosques…churches…hospitals…cultural centres… Obviously Israel seeks to destroy all aspects of Palestinian life infrastructure and support systems…not to mention all residential facilities and homes… And of course institutional Starvation… Not to forget Illegal Settlements in the West Bank an Apartheid regime… Finally the World has woken up to all of it No wonder The Hague court determined Probable Genocide case against Israel…14 votes to 2… AIPAC MONEY seems to own and control far too many US POLITICIANS…

[frank_booth]

"The Fonz 1:28 Wed Apr 10 Re: Hamas attack Israel Every time someone points out the shit that Israel does, people like you just say that you're a nutter or it's not the case. Or if you point out all the horrible shit Israelis do, they are nutters and extremists, ignore it. Sure, you could say the first video are a few extremists. But what about the third video which has 1000s of people? Just a few thousand more bad apples? But what about the fact Ben Gvir and Smotich were there and agreed? And have called on several occasions for Gaza to be ethnically cleasned and Israeli's to move back to Gaza? Just a few more extremists? Yeah, a few extremists who hold a great deal of power and influence and who lots of other politicians agree with. When do people like you start to realise that it's this Israeli governments agenda to erase Palestine? It's just extremists who want to build settlements in Gaza? Yeah, and what about the illegal settlements in the West Bank? I love how people just conveniently ignore those. I saw a Palestinian man who signed up for an event was refused entry, but i'm sure you could probably buy house in the West Bank if you wanted to with full protection of the IDF: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/11/new-jersey-israel-palestine-protest-real-estate As for what video do i believe, I mostly believe what people say as long as their actions back it up. As for Netenyahu, you say he says he wants nothing to do with Gaza. The same Benzion Mileikowsky that has denied the existence of Palestine for decades. The same Bibi that is now wiping Gaza off the map and his cabinet are openly saying they want to ethnically cleanse. The same guy that has ruined pretty much all the infrastructure and is now playing the waiting game of seeing how long it will take for the Gazans to die. The same bloke that could have the hostages returned but instead wants the war to continue because no hostages means no war which means no job. The same bloke who you say wants nothing to do with Gaza, but has openly said he wants to occupy it after the war ends? Some of you lot really are gullible and eat up any shit they serve. He wants to be in Gaza after the war, and that will either be with the backing of self proclaimed Zionist Joe Biden or the orange one who's own son-in-law, who was in charge of making a peace plan between Israel and Palestine, has openly said Israel should never recognise Palestine because that would reward terrorism. Like Tex said, i'm sure you buy the line that Israel thought Hamas was in the WCK convey? All three cars. Or that blowing up hospitals and killing reporters and killing hostages or the countless other events were just horrible mistakes and they will genuinely do better and are doing their best to avoid civilian casualties. Or that you believe whatever bullshit comes from every ""independent"" investigation into Israel, done by Israel. I sometimes think i'm living in a fucking parallel universe the way people just choose to believe lie after lie."

[Mike Oxsaw]

Confirmation bias wins out every time - especially amongst those adamantly confirming that they have no confirmation bias.

[The Fonz]

"As for the aid workers, Israel apologies and takes responsibility and its lying and hiding something. Israel denies bombing a hospital and Israel must be lying. The hatred is unreal."

[The Fonz]

These are the same nutters that the IDF ripped from their homes 15 odd years ago to remove every Jew from Gaza in the hope for peace. The facts of the matter are no Jews stepped foot in Gaza since then until 7th Ofctober happened and hundreds were taken there beyond their will. There are videos of Netanyahu saying Israel wants nothing to do with Gaza. So which video you believe will depend on the bias you are looking to confirm. Yours and Texas bias is clearly Israel is the root of all evil. If you look for nutters in any country you will find them. I can find you videos of British people calling for sharia law. Does that mean that this is our national policy? The issue with proportional representation as your political system is that it allows nutters into government which is what Israel has. We have plenty of nutters over here with you being a prime example.

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Every nation with ""God on it's side"", whatever flavour god, especially the one YOU prefer, fucks things up."

[RM10]

"Can’t understand why you are arguing about it all, leave the Middle East to itself we will never understand their madness out there. Why we went to Afghanistan and Iraq is beyond me, just brings shit over here."

[Texas Iron]

Agree 100% with Frank… IDF thought they saw a Hamas with gun… Realized their mistake but they had witnesses left alive…in first vehicle and other 2… So they decided to kill them all so none could bear witness thereby destroying all 3 vehicles and all aid workers… Independent inquiry needed…with full uninterrupted video… Poor excuse to say didn’t see identification logos on vehicles at night…as drones obviously had lights… IDF totally lying…obviously

[frank_booth]

"SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:35 Tue Apr 9 Re: Hamas attack Israel Yup, as I thought, GO at his maddest. Yep, i'm mental. I'm totally making up that Netenyahu is finally succeeding in his decades long goal to erase Palestine and make it ""Greater Israel."" This is for you and Fonz. This isn't an organised movement to create settlements in Gaza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkXJwErm8DM&ab_channel=CNN There aren't Israeli fanatics that have been allowed to break through the border and symbolically build shitty structures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuRj2UhF62A&ab_channel=HindustanTimes It's just some nutjobs and fringe crazies. Except for the fact that it's 1000s of poeple that are already planning beach front property in Gaza, backed by some of the most powerful members of the Israeli government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDbvzQ5GiBQ&ab_channel=CBCNews%3ATheNational The US isn't holding real estate events, selling Palestinian land to Jewish people but Palestinains are reported to the police? Yes, the antisemitc media have reported all these events. No one is pretending like all this shit isn't happening, are they?"

[frank_booth]

"SurfaceAgentX2Zero 9:35 Tue Apr 9 Re: Hamas attack Israel Yup, as I thought, GO at his maddest. Yep, i'm mental. I'm totally making up that Netenyahu is finally succeeding in his decades long goal to erase Palestine and make it ""Greater Israel."" This is for you and Fonz. This isn't an organised movement to create settlements in Gaza: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkXJwErm8DM&ab_channel=CNN There aren't Israeli fanatics that have been allowed to break through the border and symbolically build shitty structures: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuRj2UhF62A&ab_channel=HindustanTimes It's just some nutjobs and fringe crazies. Except for the fact that it's 1000s of poeple that are already planning beach front property in Gaza, backed by some of the most powerful members of the Israeli government: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDbvzQ5GiBQ&ab_channel=CBCNews%3ATheNational The US isn't holding real estate events, selling Palestinian land to Jewish people but Palestinains are reported to the police? Yes, the antisemitc media have reported all these events. No one is pretending like all this shit isn't happening, are they?"

[Hammer and Pickle]

I think everything indicates the majority of public opinion in Israel demands logic and reason from Likud in the form of an immediate general election