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West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 16 Aug 2025, 17:07
by muskie
Odds slashed from 5/1 to 7/2.
Watch this space.
I think we're fucked.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 16:13
by 62Hammer
The football under Moyes was simply boring. at least after the first season or so, and I'm glad he went. What's unbelievable is that we managed to replace him with three managers even worse and possibly even more boring. So no, I don't wish he was still here, I wish we had different owners who had the slightest idea what they are doing.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 16:07
by XKhammer
Vexed wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:07
Lato wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 11:46
Before Moyes left we were warned " be carful what you wish for ! ". We finished 9th that season. Up rocks Loppy and we are 13th when he gets the tin tack. Next we finish 14th under Potter. Now under Nuno we are floundering at 18th with relegation staring right at us. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?
Moyes started this rot, you fucking no mark
You seem to be forgetting 3 wonderful European campaigns under Moyes
Mind you l did warn you all to be carful for what you wish for
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 15:39
by Mad Ferret
Established PL clubs that end up going down tend to fare better than clubs that just come up for 1 or 2 years before going back down.
Newcastle, Villa etc.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 15:36
by aldgate
Only Ipswich of the three relegated clubs last year look like they have a chance of going back up straight away which doesn't bode well.........
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 14:43
by Lato
Vexed wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:07
Lato wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 11:46
Before Moyes left we were warned " be carful what you wish for ! ". We finished 9th that season. Up rocks Loppy and we are 13th when he gets the tin tack. Next we finish 14th under Potter. Now under Nuno we are floundering at 18th with relegation staring right at us. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?
Moyes started this rot, you fucking no mark.
Course he did........that is my point!
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 14:06
by Mad Dog
Of the 3 keepers areola is easily our best. Hes not prefer but has kept us in a LOT of games this season.
If he had competent centre backs he'd be lass of an issue as he wont have as much pressure.
Either way though he wont be around next season
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:55
by El Scorchio
Council Scum" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:40
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:23
Council Scum" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:11
Or maybe the board should have backed Moyes after he won the trophy, the way they did Lopi 12 months later and seen if we really could have progressed forward.
To be fair, money was spent. Kudus, Alvarez, JWP and Mav all came in. Trouble was that the money was in retrospect spent very poorly and clearly not all by Moyes. Kudus at least we made SOME money on and in retrospect it doesn't look a TERRIBLE deal now even though it seemed bad business at the time. Alvarez and JWP for one reason or another both turned out to be expensive disasters and huge wastes of money. Mav is just bang average and should be no more than a sub.
To not absolve Moyes though, JWP was clearly his choice even if none of the others were, and it was a shit, short termist one. If Stiedten got Kudus, then he's the only one to come out with even a crumb of credit.
We made a transfer profit though, Appreciate most of that was Rice, he should have been backed, big.
He was though. 145 million Euros were spent on those four players. They just all turned out to be failures. Partly down to Moyes, partly not.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:54
by Mad Ferret
Get Fab fit and have him in there till the end of the season.
He might even be good for one more season in the Championship.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:52
by El Scorchio
ragingbull wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:43
Give Mads a go now let's see what he's got.
'A number of howlers in him' I expect is the answer.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:50
by Mad Ferret
Mad Dog" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:38
The other thing about this whole moyes myth is that he left a year after the cup win
Sp*rs sacked ange days after winning the euro Cup and giving them champions league and that never gets mentioned
ok for those cunts but little west ham need to stay in their lane
Yeah and Thomas Frank is doing so great.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:43
by ragingbull
Give Mads a go now let's see what he's got.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:40
by Council Scum
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:23
Council Scum" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:11
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:03
Moyes should have walked away with the Conference League trophy
As I get bored of explaining to outsiders he lost 20 of 38 in his second last season & conceded 74 goals with 30% possession in his last
0-6 v Arsenal
0-5 v Chelsea & Fulham
2-5 v Palace etc etc
As said the problem wasn’t him going it was Sullivan appointing 3 abysmal managers to follow him
Or maybe the board should have backed Moyes after he won the trophy, the way they did Lopi 12 months later and seen if we really could have progressed forward.
To be fair, money was spent. Kudus, Alvarez, JWP and Mav all came in. Trouble was that the money was in retrospect spent very poorly and clearly not all by Moyes. Kudus at least we made SOME money on and in retrospect it doesn't look a TERRIBLE deal now even though it seemed bad business at the time. Alvarez and JWP for one reason or another both turned out to be expensive disasters and huge wastes of money. Mav is just bang average and should be no more than a sub.
To not absolve Moyes though, JWP was clearly his choice even if none of the others were, and it was a shit, short termist one. If Stiedten got Kudus, then he's the only one to come out with even a crumb of credit.
We made a transfer profit though, Appreciate most of that was Rice, he should have been backed, big.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:38
by Mad Dog
The other thing about this whole moyes myth is that he left a year after the cup win
Sp*rs sacked ange days after winning the euro Cup and giving them champions league and that never gets mentioned
ok for those cunts but little west ham need to stay in their lane
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:23
by El Scorchio
Council Scum" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:11
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:03
Moyes should have walked away with the Conference League trophy
As I get bored of explaining to outsiders he lost 20 of 38 in his second last season & conceded 74 goals with 30% possession in his last
0-6 v Arsenal
0-5 v Chelsea & Fulham
2-5 v Palace etc etc
As said the problem wasn’t him going it was Sullivan appointing 3 abysmal managers to follow him
Or maybe the board should have backed Moyes after he won the trophy, the way they did Lopi 12 months later and seen if we really could have progressed forward.
To be fair, money was spent. Kudus, Alvarez, JWP and Mav all came in. Trouble was that the money was in retrospect spent very poorly and clearly not all by Moyes. Kudus at least we made SOME money on and in retrospect it doesn't look a TERRIBLE deal now even though it seemed bad business at the time. Alvarez and JWP for one reason or another both turned out to be expensive disasters and huge wastes of money. Mav is just bang average and should be no more than a sub.
To not absolve Moyes though, JWP was clearly his choice even if none of the others were, and it was a shit, short termist one. If Stiedten got Kudus, then he's the only one to come out with even a crumb of credit.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:17
by southbankbornnbred
Not going to re-engage with the Moyes nonsense. His final season was abysmal at times. As many have already said, we’ve since appointed three abysmal managers - and it’s all because Sullivan is a no-nothing, cheapskate grifter of an owner who is incapable of making decisions that benefit the club (rather than himself).
We will continue to appoint shit managers, with short-term visions and little idea of how to tackle the toughest league in the world, until Sullivan goes - or hands over control of footballing matters.
Moyes, Lopetegui, Potter, Nuno…we’re in this shit - and we WILL be relegated - not because of the terrible managers. But because of the terrible owner who appoints them all.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:11
by Council Scum
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 13:03
Moyes should have walked away with the Conference League trophy
As I get bored of explaining to outsiders he lost 20 of 38 in his second last season & conceded 74 goals with 30% possession in his last
0-6 v Arsenal
0-5 v Chelsea & Fulham
2-5 v Palace etc etc
As said the problem wasn’t him going it was Sullivan appointing 3 abysmal managers to follow him
Or maybe the board should have backed Moyes after he won the trophy, the way they did Lopi 12 months later and seen if we really could have progressed forward.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:07
by Vexed
Lato wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 11:46
Before Moyes left we were warned " be carful what you wish for ! ". We finished 9th that season. Up rocks Loppy and we are 13th when he gets the tin tack. Next we finish 14th under Potter. Now under Nuno we are floundering at 18th with relegation staring right at us. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?
Moyes started this rot, you fucking no mark
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:03
by Fauxstralian
Moyes should have walked away with the Conference League trophy
As I get bored of explaining to outsiders he lost 20 of 38 in his second last season & conceded 74 goals with 30% possession in his last
0-6 v Arsenal
0-5 v Chelsea & Fulham
2-5 v Palace etc etc
As said the problem wasn’t him going it was Sullivan appointing 3 abysmal managers to follow him
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 13:01
by El Scorchio
I can see Pablo staying given his modest career so far and he could be very good in the champ. Taty I cannot imagine will want that at all at the stage in his career he is. I shouldn't think it'll be hard to get a decent price for him unless he catches a really bad dose of 'west ham' before the end of the season.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 12:57
by cup of tea
I wonder what clauses (if any) were put in the two new strikers contracts when they signed. Presumably they aren't on mega money but there must be some stipulations in their contracts WHEN we are relegated?
I am not going to judge them yet based on what I have seen so far butneedless to say I don't think they are going to be any sort of saviours ecen in the Championship
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 12:53
by El Scorchio
Mad Dog" wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 11:52
Yes. But once a fucking gain moyes leaving is NOT the fuckign problem
The problem ia thay cսnt sullivan appointing a succession of worse and worse managers
Nobody (NOBODY) wanted lopetegi, his recruitment has ruined this team, he wanted that pathetic coward Kilman, steidten in hindsight wasnt as bad, but made some bad picks, potter has come in and somehow made things worse, then nuno has come into a club at the bottom and started digging even deeper.
I don't want to hear "moyes" again im sick of it
Absolutely. it was time for Moyes to go. The rot had started under him with his crazy squad management, transfer paralysis (I'm putting that mainly down to Sullivan interfering) and negativity BUT the problem as you say was not letting him go but rather appointing dreadful managers and making dreadful decisions afterwards. It boils my blood when outsiders say it's our own fault for Moyes leaving. It's not. It's Sullivan's fault for everything he did and didn't do subsequently.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 12:03
by fraser
Lato wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 11:46
Before Moyes left we were warned " be carful what you wish for ! ". We finished 9th that season. Up rocks Loppy and we are 13th when he gets the tin tack. Next we finish 14th under Potter. Now under Nuno we are floundering at 18th with relegation staring right at us. Isn't hindsight a wonderful thing?
I agree in hindsight we needed to get rid of Moyes earlier before he started the rot which has now set in. Should have appointed a good manager while we were in Europa and able to attract decent players.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 11:54
by Manuel
dealcanvey wrote: ↑07 Jan 2026, 09:00
Relegation seems nailed on. Cant see us turning this round.
Current 1st team players that could still be here next season:
Hermansen, Soucek, JWP, KWP, Potts, Scarles and Kilman (cant see anyone buying him).
Earthy and Kante could become useful squad members. Casey out on loan at Swansea so maybe can do a job next season.
Would be good if could keep both Magassa and Fernandes but unlikely that we manage to even keep one of them.
Summerville a funny one. Stayed with leeds when they last went down and done really well in that division. Stats are not the best for us plus alot of injuries so no guarantee someone comes in for him.
AWB, Paqueta, Bowen, Diouf and Todibo will be off.
God knows what will happen with the two new strikers. Both were aware that relegation was quite likely when they arrived. Wilson would score alot of goals in the championship if he stayed fit.
Sullivan asks Coufal to come back with his tail between his legs.
Squad will still need major investment to come up first time of asking.
No harm to shoot the breeze but it's a bit early for all this malarky, there is a lot of water to go under the bridge before August. If we are serious about at least trying to come straight back up we might not see as many of our youngsters as we might think IMO. As you say we will need to buy too, but then you also don't want players that won't be much use in the PL if we do come back. It's going to be messy.
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 11:52
by Mad Dog
Yes. But once a fucking gain moyes leaving is NOT the fuckign problem
The problem ia thay cսnt sullivan appointing a succession of worse and worse managers
Nobody (NOBODY) wanted lopetegi, his recruitment has ruined this team, he wanted that pathetic coward Kilman, steidten in hindsight wasnt as bad, but made some bad picks, potter has come in and somehow made things worse, then nuno has come into a club at the bottom and started digging even deeper.
I don't want to hear "moyes" again im sick of it
Re: West Ham United 25/26 relegation thread
Posted: 07 Jan 2026, 11:49
by Mad Ferret
Honestly, I expect us to bounce straight back.
Sullivan will invest heavily to avoid spending more than 1 season down there.
And let's be real, it's a fucking weak league.