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Nuno Out

Posted: 27 Sep 2025, 11:00
by northbankfrank
2,500 posts by the end of the season?

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 22:18
by XKhammer
Sir Alf" wrote: 04 Dec 2025, 19:11 Nunos  just hit “strike 2” of 3 of my assessment to show if he has any chance of keeping us up by picking Soucek to start.  Not looking good but I’ll be ok with championship footie next year.  Been there a few times in my life time. Not sure we will bounce back this time though
I bet you're a bundle of fun on a night out

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 19:11
by Sir Alf
Nunos  just hit “strike 2” of 3 of my assessment to show if he has any chance of keeping us up by picking Soucek to start.  Not looking good but I’ll be ok with championship footie next year.  Been there a few times in my life time. Not sure we will bounce back this time though

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 19:11
by scott_d
I actually think that Nuno would have been better suited to coming in when Moyes left.  Not when we are struggling.

But the damage that has been caused by Loppy and Potter since then is making it an incredibly difficult job for anyone who comes in.

I don't think there is a single starting line-up with the players available that would give me confidence that we can win a game, any game.

That's what he has got to deal with.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 17:20
by twoleftfeet
BoleynGone wrote: 02 Dec 2025, 05:47 Two left, yes you're wrong as per, about the youth. Potts is not a youth player anymore he's 22, Scarles was used by him in the wrong position twice,probably the biggest error of the PL season so blatant was it with the other tactics in those 2 games. He not going to watch the U21's and not using Earthy especially is ludicrous.
Can we agree that bench game after game is damaging to your soul, it is mine. 7 defensive players with 1 under used attacker who has been left to stagnate then thrown in after zero minutes. Nuno has had plenty of chances to use Guilherme for minutes in every game but hasn't.

Sir Alf,
i don't buy this wind asssited logic,it's often harder to control the ball if you have the wind. You then adapt and bring on players who can pass the ball on the deck but Nuno had none.Wilson didn't have one pass in the game as we weren't playing that way.
Why this boring wanker can't see that it's better to attack sometimes than constantly defend. That's why he needs to go and watch the u21's play. They can pass and move why not the 1st team ? The training ground videos show pass and move,what's the fucking point in them doing this if they then don't use the ball. Countless times I've seen us hoof the ball, not even in a controlled way but a pub football team way. be honest with yourself and tell me anything different.

We lost one of sons, I'm still gutted and we have Paqueta and Nuno performing like utter cunts.I'm almost giving up but it's in my blood

You are such a bore.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 17:13
by Massive Attack
A Pottergeezer

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 17:11
by Texas Iron
Why are we not surprised…

Just look at his past record…his comments actions and selections since he arrived…

He sounds like a Portuguese Potter…

I hope I’m wrong…

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 12:12
by Massive Attack
Sir Alf" wrote: 04 Dec 2025, 08:50 Leeds I agree totally on as he repeated the same mistake.   Brentford was an experiment he thought would work but didnt.   


 

Sorry, it just wasn't the time to dick about with moronic tactics/selections with the perilous position we were in clearly much harder run of fixtures coming up afterwards. It was an opportunity to get some much needed points on the board and take some pressure off the players. It showed a real arrogance to think he could be that reckless as a new manager.

Get the job done first with ideas you can truly believe in, not fucking Paqueta up top with both Irving and Soucek in the middle replaced by that donkey Rodriguez as the likes of  Wilson/Potts/Magassa kick their heels on the bench. We then got what we deserved, fuck all in both games. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 09:04
by GBHammer63
I don’t see Nuno as a symptom, he’s making the decisions on our substitutes who he thinks can influence the game, and rather than try to use the bench to try to settle in some of our hope for the future he’s last attempt of substitution options were 
Fullkrug - don’t want to be here, done fuck all to prove he’s worthy of being here 
Guilherme - an unknown even in the U23s, no game time 
Soucek - thanks Tomas, good effort but a plodding box crasher with stamina.
Kilman - nothing 
Guido - nothing 
Irving - a tryer but not good enough 
Hermansen- another want away not good enough, why bring Fab back if he’s not to be considered?
KWP - alright, nothing more.
Igor - meh

Thats cowardly choices, siding with proven crap over some of our hopes for the future, Nuno’s school report would be a D or E at the moment, time for him to realise that growing bollocks don’t hurt.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 08:50
by Sir Alf
Leeds I agree totally on as he repeated the same mistake.   Brentford was an experiment he thought would work but didnt.  Most managers do that from time to time and it was early in his tenure too and after a two week international break. He misjudged what works in training versus what works in practice.  It was that Leeds game where he lost us the points  as he did not see the obvious mistakes in selections against Brentford and repeated them.   Bournemouth? Hmmm not so clear to me. In hindsight taking off Wilson too early was wrong and removing Fernandes for Soucek didnt help but agsin not on the scale of the Leeds game which was totally diwn to him

As mentioned elsewhere, the root cause is the squad and owners running of the club that has seen us end up with a squad and first 11 ( a pair of 30 somethjng strikers )  not fit for purpose. 

When you have so few options the risk of mistakes in selections and tactical calls failing increases exponentially. Nunos team for the Liverpool game, aside from the absence of Summerville and perhaps Kilman and KWP, is all he really has that are good enough  options currently. 13 players!!  And even then not strong enough to beat a lot of teams. 

He should try Earthy, Fearon and Kante and give them some minutes.  Earthy has experience so a no brainer but that is how desperate we are now. Relying on U21s saving us

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 08:30
by Mad Ferret
Sir Alf" wrote: 04 Dec 2025, 08:26 Nuno is a symptom not a cause of our predicament. Whoever we brought in would struggle to get results imo. Yes he has made mistakes ( Leeds away for me the only obvious one) 
He threw the Brentford and Leeds games with his lineups, he lost us 2 points going all defensive at Bournemouth when we found ours 2-0 up, he surrendered the Arsenal and Liverpool games by not even having a go.

The geezer has been an utter disaster so far. It looks better than what it is because Potter was so insipid. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 08:26
by Sir Alf
Nuno is a symptom not a cause of our predicament. Whoever we brought in would struggle to get results imo. Yes he has made mistakes ( Leeds away for me the only obvious one) but all managers do. But wth our squad you cannot make any misjudgement its so weak in terms of depth and quality. A slow, old collective that was improved a little this last summer but still lacking the pace and physicality in key areas.  One if not the poorest set of striking options in the league, lack of leadership, suspect CBs etc.  

We are a club with no plan or direction that is experiencing the consequences of being run by a hapless owner and part time CEO

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 04 Dec 2025, 00:07
by Massive Attack
More I look at the table, form and performances, the next 3 fixtures are critical for him. Cannot afford to pick up next to fuck all and not bust a bollock from what we've seen so far. It's time to now show us what you are made of Nuno and get us at it, proper at it and not this fannying around the edges shit hoping for the best.

If 2 newly promoted Clubs can manage it against so called bigger Clubs, then so can we.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 03 Dec 2025, 10:25
by Massive Attack
David LE" wrote: 02 Dec 2025, 09:05 Bilic? The same Bilic who played Antonio at right back?

Yeah, a fucking fantastic season. We had injuries in that position. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 03 Dec 2025, 05:07
by BoleynGone
let's be fair Antonio played at right back and scored a few goals at right back.
I watched the highlights of West Ham v Liverpool from Jan 2016. 
So much more intensity,desire,attacking and entertainment. The line up was good but had a few players out of position. Tomkins at right back,Antonio left wing and Valencia right wing. Antonio looked like a skinny boy.
Oh for those days.
btw Paqueta wouldn't lace up Payet's or Lanzini's boots,ever
 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 02 Dec 2025, 09:05
by David LE
Bilic? The same Bilic who played Antonio at right back?

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 02 Dec 2025, 08:47
by fraser
BoleynGone wrote: 02 Dec 2025, 05:47
Can we agree that bench game after game is damaging to your soul, it is mine. 


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Blimey a damaged soul, are you on drugs if not I suggest you try some. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 02 Dec 2025, 07:35
by Sweep
We have one attacking player at the club who is the right age, reliably fit and of the right quality.

The rest are either knocking on, lack fitness or lack quality. 

Shut Bowen down and then what?

Going on about the manager is pointless if the players ain't good enough. 

Steidten and Sullivan spent £70m-£80m on Fulkrug, Summerville and Guilherme 18 months ago. They've scored 4 goals in a year and half.  Two of them are consistently unavailable. Throw in Paqueta as the show pony of all show ponies.

Three managers have been expected to stick lipstick on a pig in that time.




 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 02 Dec 2025, 05:47
by BoleynGone
Two left, yes you're wrong as per, about the youth. Potts is not a youth player anymore he's 22, Scarles was used by him in the wrong position twice,probably the biggest error of the PL season so blatant was it with the other tactics in those 2 games. He not going to watch the U21's and not using Earthy especially is ludicrous.
Can we agree that bench game after game is damaging to your soul, it is mine. 7 defensive players with 1 under used attacker who has been left to stagnate then thrown in after zero minutes. Nuno has had plenty of chances to use Guilherme for minutes in every game but hasn't.

Sir Alf,
i don't buy this wind asssited logic,it's often harder to control the ball if you have the wind. You then adapt and bring on players who can pass the ball on the deck but Nuno had none.Wilson didn't have one pass in the game as we weren't playing that way.
Why this boring wanker can't see that it's better to attack sometimes than constantly defend. That's why he needs to go and watch the u21's play. They can pass and move why not the 1st team ? The training ground videos show pass and move,what's the fucking point in them doing this if they then don't use the ball. Countless times I've seen us hoof the ball, not even in a controlled way but a pub football team way. be honest with yourself and tell me anything different.

We lost one of sons, I'm still gutted and we have Paqueta and Nuno performing like utter cunts.I'm almost giving up but it's in my blood

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 01 Dec 2025, 23:03
by Sir Alf
I see few alternatives to Nuno just now unfortunately that we coukd be confident would get more points. For me, he really blew points on the Leeds game trying the same experiment that failed in the previous game. Bournemouth perhaps 2 points dropped.  But subbing Wilson 10 mins too early or removing Fernandes for Soucek were too mistakes in hindsight ( perfect science ) But not doing so ? Would that have almost certainly seen us go onto win? Hmmm not so sure ?  We were very poor in the 2nd half due to the gale force wind behind Bournemouth as much as anything else and Wilson’s goals first half, when we had the wind behind us, werent exactly the result of dominant play but came more from 2 excellent poachers instincts against tyr run of play imo

Im not a Nuno fan ordinarily but have to say imo it was really only the Leeds game where he got it totally wrong. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 01 Dec 2025, 17:12
by GBHammer63
North Bank" wrote: 01 Dec 2025, 16:24
GBHammer63 wrote: 01 Dec 2025, 14:18
 
GB you're right that Nuno has always been a defensive coach, as has, Moyes, Loppy & Potter, there's a pattern here, ever since the failed appointment of Pellegrini, the sex case in the Boardroom has been spooked and gone for the guy who will grind out 40 points, maybe in time Nuno will play a more expansive game but with the dearth of talent in our forward line I'm happy to grind it out for now. 
Maybe mate, massive gamble to take on this manager who in the time he’s been here has only had one game and a half of attacking football, which is what earns you them points, there’s a bloody big chance he won’t achieve those required remaining 29 points, especially when he’s shown already this season he’s blown games that we’d have a chance of winning with his weird calls. Not sure he’s shown anywhere near good enough grinding ability.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 01 Dec 2025, 16:24
by North Bank
GBHammer63 wrote: 01 Dec 2025, 14:18
GB you're right that Nuno has always been a defensive coach, as has, Moyes, Loppy & Potter, there's a pattern here, ever since the failed appointment of Pellegrini, the sex case in the Boardroom has been spooked and gone for the guy who will grind out 40 points, maybe in time Nuno will play a more expansive game but with the dearth of talent in our forward line I'm happy to grind it out for now. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 01 Dec 2025, 14:19
by Massive Attack
Respect the 0-2 defeat.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 01 Dec 2025, 14:18
by GBHammer63
Sir Alf" wrote: 01 Dec 2025, 13:34 Bilic I like as a bloke but would he really be getting us more points by playing “front foot” football ( a general term for high speed and/or possession dominant football) . With our squad / team wouldnt it be likely we find ourselves shipping lots more goals again and getting exposed / cut thru on the counter?  Trouble is the argument that we shoukd have chosen another manager to justify why the existng manager is rubbish seems to me to be a fallacious exercise or “grass is greener” thinking? We’ve been saying this same thing forever and in the current era back to Moyes. Nuno tactics not mine or most peoples preference but he aint hopeless.  However he is sadly probably about the best fit currently. The running of the club and 5 managers in 18 months is symptomatic of the root cause of everything we are seeing imo.  No simple fix unfortunately.  A first step in the right direction is a Jan window that improves the squad in the central forward area, another CB and centre mid. All need pace and physicality as well as technically decent and not too old. Unlikely we get the quality needed for all 3 areas especially if Sullivan is influencing things so minimum for me is striker. 
Alf, I’d like Nuno to succeed but all I see him trying to succeed at is defensive spoiling coward football, if he understood that the only way he’s going to succeed in the eyes of the fans is by winning games, not by not trying to lose them too badly. Sullivan has appointed Nuno as a safe option for him to keep us in the league, unfortunately we’re not in the position to do anything other than win points, defending don’t get us them points.

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 01 Dec 2025, 14:08
by nychammer
I was starting to think we had turned a corner but last two games have walked us back to playing a style Nuno (and Moyes)  likes to play without the personnel to carry it off. 

it’s the fault of the owners ill advised chopping and changing from Moyes to Lop to Potter and now to Nuno. Nuno could probably get a tune out of what Moyes left but after potter and lop’s signings he’s left with a squad of misfits unable of adapt to his style. For one, it demands capable defenders and we simply don’t have them. 

so we either persist and give Nuno a window to get some players in or we twist again, but with Sullivan likely  unwilling to spend again on a manger I think it’s the former. 

Re: Nuno Out

Posted: 01 Dec 2025, 13:36
by Massive Attack
Yes