UK house prices falling...

[Mike Oxsaw]

...a good or bad thing?

[Alwaysaniron]

"House prices took a dip in 2023 due to a myriad of doom and gloom. However they're expected to bounce back over the next 5 years with growth predicted to rise by up to 21%. As long as demand outstrips availability then they'll just keep going up. Let's hope we negotiate a 'stay as long as you like' deal in Thailand and we can all cash in when 2028 comes along and buy a fucking mansion with a view, cleaner, personal care staff and a chef and live our lives out in luxury."

[threesixty]

"It's the same story up and down the country. Govt needs something done, MP brings in middle man/woman with own consultancy or some other bullshit. Overpays for the service, MP's mate gets to make money, MP is ""taken care of"" later down the line. Look at Michelle Mone, or the govt NHS system that cost a billion that didn't even work, The idea that only private enterprise can get something done efficiently is bollocks. It's just ideology driven from Thatcherism that markets produce the most efficient services. But that only works where there is true competition. For many govt services there is no natural competition at all. So its just bollocks made up so that they can pay there friends money. And before it gets all Partisan, I was against Nu Labour and all that PPI stuff we are still paying for! It's like taking out a mortgage on a house when you actually have the money to buy it outright. Why do that?"

[Mike Oxsaw]

"Can't the NHS undertake it's own recruitment process then? If not, why not."

[Side of Ham]

"No need for an investigation, loads of nurses left working for the NHS......then recruitment is required.....and agencies get involved....."

[threesixty]

"""There needs to be a proper ""drains up"" investigation as to why there are so many agency staff in the NHS."" absolutely! Its insane how this has happened. What is it with govt always ""outsourcing"" everything? How does it make sense? You're just using tax payers money to pay middle men for a service you could do yourself for cheaper. This whole country has suffered from Thatcherism concepts. It's ingrained now. The idea that the state cant run anything properly. Of course it can."

[Mike Oxsaw]

Is there a vested interest within Parlaiment to keep house prices rising?

[Moncurs Putting Iron]

"Being distinctly non remarkable but earnest, honest and hard working and having produced distinctly unremarkable but earnest and honest offspring I just want the average earner to be able, with a little sacrifice and support to be able to afford the average house. This may help, but not in isolation, developers have to be encouraged to build affordable housing not the show home all style, no substance bullshit they are allowed to turn out and charge top dollar for that people can only afford to half own."

[Darlo Debs]

No I'm.not Surf that came from.tbe OBR I double checked before I posted the extract.

[SurfaceAgentX2Zero]

"Debs, You seem to be confusing the OBR with the ONS. You're also confusing the OBR with the ECB and ignoring services and everything after 2022. Here's the link again. https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/exports Please stop fibbing."

[Side of Ham]

"Debs, problem is Nurses have found you can exist a lot better on ‘bank’ rates than you can being NHS staff plus you can add in there’s a shitload more put on them being a full time in NHS departments. NHS will never get near paying bank rates and if you get rid of it those that choose to nurse that way will walk away on an already short staffed organisation. It’s bank that keeps them continuing being a nurse."

[Mike Oxsaw]

"There needs to be a proper ""drains up"" investigation as to why there are so many agency staff in the NHS. I suspect a large number are derived from peole training within the NHS to get their required skills & qualifications then moving to agencies who, not having any training costs, can pay higher direct wages. Easiest way around that is to tax state trained contractors to recover the training costs, making it not worthwhile leaving the organisation who trained you. Plus, of course, if the NHS paid the going rate for all it's front-line staff (remembering that administrators & middle managers are NOT front-line staff, of course), it might possibly be in as much of a crisis as claimed. Anyhow. Full circle; how does the change, either way, in house prices, affect the NHS?"

[Fauxstralian]

Institutions like the BBC & NHS need a proper audit to establish the level of admin (incl diversity officers) and in the NHS's case agency staff covering gaps in permanent staff The agency staff in the NHS may well have increased due to those leaving due to Brexit Have always said most if not all government agencies could be trimmed down Including Parliament .... in the modern world we dont need 600 MP's. 60 would be enough with qualified staff to support them Most are anonymous time servers wasting our money like the bloke sending COCK PICS to random whatsapp numbers

[goose]

Ok Debs. So if taxes aren’t going up then the pot of tax revenue would have to be spent differently. What would you take funding away from to fund the things you believe are a priority?

[goose]

Ok Debs. So if taxes aren’t going up then the pot of tax revenue would have to be spent differently. What would you take funding away from to fund the things you believe are a priority?

[BRANDED]

In democracies you always get a group of people who regret decisions they made at the ballot box as they thought they really were going to be bribed. The rest of society get on with focussing on what actions they can take to make the best World for them and theirs which will always include cooperating and sharing with others. This has always worked best without tyranny. Tyranny is the absence of nuance.

[joe royal]

"I really don’t care how much my flat is worth, I have no intention of moving. My daughter will benefit when I’m gone so she will probably look at the prices with some vigour."

[Darlo Debs]

"Not when it’s not being spent on what it should be goose. If taxes are going up but our services are crumbling after 14 years you have to ask Yourself why. Mike yes some if it is but hiring diversity officers isn’t what is. causing the problem, that’s a Daily Mail dog whistle headline . The NHS will be spending far more in agency staff ie over the odds costs for frontline cover. As well as paying to outsource social care to organisations like the one I work for"

[goose]

Debs are you happy to pay more tax?

[Mike Oxsaw]

Is there any correlation between ambulance waiting times and waiting lists & the amount the NHS spends on administrators & diversity inclusion consultants & consultancies? The NHS is taking the money it should be spending on patient care and using it to bloat it's own bureaucracy (mainly for it's mates benefits).

[Darlo Debs]

Funny then that ambulance waiting times and waiting lists go up under the Tories mind you it doesn’t help that governments under our system don’t work to sort long term problems so housing and social care get kicked into the long grass and are sacrificed for votes in the short term The negative affects of neglecting social care needs is crippling the NHS and the negative affects of housing shortages is also have a ripple affect beyond people not being able to afford a home. People on here might want to but that can’t be blamed entirely or even in large part by immigration .

[stewie griffin]

categorically incorrect. I'd suggest looking up Public sector spending as a % of GDP over the past 25 years. Far higher under the 'Tories' than under Labour. Not that it matters. They're exactly the same. A bunch of globo-homo identikit wankers who all aspire to the same bullshit.

[Darlo Debs]

No the Tories are being typically Tory charging us more and giving us less.

[Darlo Debs]

Yes Lee Side not sure how I’ve shown any spite.

[stewie griffin]

"""That is why the Tory party exists - to help those who work to help themselves."" and its also the reason they'll lose the election. We have the highest tax burden since 1970s, NHS spending as a % of GDP is at an all-time high, and we have the highest level of state interference ever. They're not losing because they're Tories, they're losing because they aren't."

[stewie griffin]

"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68361717 i'd go very easy on making Brexit judgements until this shakes out. There's been a bunch of positive spin articles since, but if the Krauts have problems, the EU is going to be hilariously shit."