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Well, El Flop needs fucking off tonight.

Sergio Conceicao isn't working, worth a go?

Probably very unlikely to happen, but, this  weekend:

• A. F. C. Bournemouth v    Brighton & Hove Albion  (H)
• Arsenal    v Nottingham Forest (A)
• Aston Villa v Crystal Palace (A)
• Everton v Brentford (H)
• Fulham v Wolverhampton Wanderers (A)
• Ipswich Town V Manchester United (H)
• Leicester City v Chelsea (H)
• Manchester City v Tottenham Hotspur (A)
• Southampton v Liverpool (H)
• Newcastle United v West Ham United (H)

Would see us in 17th place come Monday night, I believe. In fact, just Leicester City & Everton both have to win and us lose to do that.

That old, familiar, extra free media attention grabbing, relegation fight ain't that far off...

Its going to be terzic. Be interesting to see if bilic is his no 2 .  We'll lose heavily next Monday night and ET will be installed within 48 hours.  Id fancy us against the north London bores if I'm correct. No better game to come into . A game under the lights . Similar to curbishleys debut at home against man utd in 06/07  .  A 1 0 win then . 

Been catching up on webcasts etc from the last week. One outrageous one claimed Allegri would be interested in the job?  No way. Too successful, tajes no nonsense from players, owners etc 

But more than all of the above he isnt a Will Salthouse or Mackay client.

Sullivan is and has, for 13-14 years, been the root cause of all our problems. 30 years behind the times and has to have control to conpromise for a life time of feeling small and lonely “on the inside”. ( like that caricature of Kim Jong Un in the film “Team America” ) .

If he cared about anyone other than himself he would put hundreds of thousands of fans first by binning his choice, admitting he was wrong ( yeah I know ) , paying Loppy off ( yeah I know again ) and thinking about the long term interest of the club not trying to send some virtuous signal about not sacking managers ( which is his excuse for avoiding the 2 “yeah I knows” above).

We cant do much and a rant on a web site aint gonna change anything but it just beggars belief how he gets away with it.  Selfish to the very core of his DNA is Sullivan.

Ahh, that feels better.

*** Alf resecures straps on straight jacket *** 

We’d have to be good as relegated for Sullivan to act. This thread is pure fantasy. And say that he does sack Lop and pays him off, you think he’s going to push. The boat out on the best available replacement? More likely it’ll be someone out of work and out of touch like Benitez

Manuel wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 09:46 Just noticed the team above us (Manu) are 3 points ahead and obviously have a better gd. So after our next 2 games we are very likely going to be buried in the bottom half with little chance of getting out of it. What a shit show. 

Lopetegui is here for the season, barring total melt down. It is difficult to comprehend a set of circumstances where Sullivan admits he was wrong. Currently, it is Steidten's fault in Sullivan's eyes as broadcast through his usual mouthpieces. Irrespective of what is now coming out that the summer transfers were split 3 for Steidten, 3 for Lopetegui and 3 for Sullivan. Simply all appointments, including the manager, should have been through Steidten, anything else is a mess and the mess sits with one man, Sullivan. 
Sullivan is probably the only majority owner in world football who could not only find someone worse than Moyes, but actually appoint them, despite severe reservations about Lopetegui's previous conduct and record, then keep them in a job irrespective of the damage he is doing to the team and the talented players within that team. And, irrespective of the long term harm to the academy with the absence of pathway for talent. Perpetuating Moyes's approach of stifling youth. 
It appears that Lopetegui is safe as long as Sullivan has the veto vote on the board, our next manager will also be a Salthouse client in all probability, grateful for a job, unemployed, and lacking in talent.

Just noticed the team above us (Manu) are 3 points ahead and obviously have a better gd. So after our next 2 games we are very likely going to be buried in the bottom half with little chance of getting out of it. What a shit show. 

Rossal wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 09:16 For me its more the cost of sacking him and all his staff which is the biggest stumbling block to Sullivan.......rather than saving face etc 

If it costs he doesn't want to know

Jim White said last week if Everton beat us 5-0 Sullivan would still keep the faith with JLOP, in which case why should we bother going if thats the attitude from the top? 

For me its more the cost of sacking him and all his staff which is the biggest stumbling block to Sullivan.......rather than saving face etc 

If it costs he doesn't want to know

Jim White said last week if Everton beat us 5-0 Sullivan would still keep the faith with JLOP, in which case why should we bother going if thats the attitude from the top? 

Sullivan cannot lose face yet by sacking Loppy. Thats the overriding factor.  It has to get even more desperate before he does anything.  January the earliest. 

Sullivan is currently working on PR and with his media cronies, to position Steidten as the fall guy would be my guess. That way he will say, the DOF idea of other shareholders like Kretinski didnt work and that he needs to take back control of transfers citing Summerville and Wan Bassaka as his picks ( Salthouse ).  Of course the little fact that Steidten was not a DOF, that Loppy was Sullivan’s choice and that the recruitment picks were 3 each ( Sullivan via Salthouse, Loppy’s spanish / latino lads and Steidtens 3 ) will be airbrushed over.

Its fun to speculate on this thread but nothing happens until bipolar / narcissistic / little man Dave feels his media image is being tarnished again.

A loud fan protest would have done it but he and Brady have been working hard , over the last few years, on changing the supporter demographic to prevent that ever happening again.  

He wears that Russian outfit for a reason. Even old Putin would applaud his efforts. Goebals and Stalin smiling up from the fires down below

I see Ranieri is going back to Roma.

A shame as I'd love to have seen him here.

onsideman wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 08:32

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 08:19

onsideman wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 07:30 You sure as hell don't want a young manager, do you?

Even though I suggested Iraola and keen on Terzic too if we did make a change, just as I was hoping Amorim would arrive in the summer..

Age actually doesn't come in to it for me, unless they're on Hodgsons level of past it well in to their 70s.

As long as they're good enough, then age really doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned, very young or old, be it Herzeler or indeed Mourinho. I think fans get too fixated on ages of managers, rather than focus on how they're doing.

 

That is a decent point, but anyone over, say, 55 is hardly going to be appointed for their desire and aptitude to buy into a long term project and take the club forward. Mourinho's schtick is so hackneyed now

Mourinho will never happen - too high-risk for all parties involved; he is Moyes on steroids, after all.

Massive Attack" wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 08:19

onsideman wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 07:30 You sure as hell don't want a young manager, do you?

Even though I suggested Iraola and keen on Terzic too if we did make a change, just as I was hoping Amorim would arrive in the summer..

Age actually doesn't come in to it for me, unless they're on Hodgsons level of past it well in to their 70s.

As long as they're good enough, then age really doesn't matter as far as I'm concerned, very young or old, be it Herzeler or indeed Mourinho. I think fans get too fixated on ages of managers, rather than focus on how they're doing.

 

Mourinho?!

Maybe the Mourinho of 10 years ago.

About as relevant as Hodgson is.  In fact, I'd have Hodgson above him in that regard seeing as he only managed here last season.

onsideman wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 07:30 You sure as hell don't want a young manager, do you?

I'd throw Ruud Van Nistelrooy's hat into the ring. 

Reasonably young, did well at PSV and seemed to handle his short spell at Man Utd well. Point to prove, worth a look in my opinion. 

You sure as hell don't want a young manager, do you?

Manuel wrote: ↑13 Nov 2024, 01:01 Aren't Spurs mid table? You feel that big Ange needs to go on a good run now, if they drop down to say 13th that would look very ugly and Levy will likely pull the trigger.

There next 4 games are Man City, Fulham, B'mouth and Chelsea. Not easy.

Can't remember where i read it ? (could have been WHO) but decent rumor we have a replacement who is a highly experienced big name lined up should the trigger need to be pulled.

Big name, looking to get back into the PL, been there done it, could it be Mourinho? personally run hot and cold with the guy, love the passion and he does have pedigree and wins things BUT has turned into a journeyman

Another "big name" could be Mancini, although has shades of Pellegrini about him, but still not over the hill, he's 59 and currently on holiday after walking away from Saudi, which i don't blame him for, and he's not the first! could be a decent option, although no silly and long contracts please and lets face it Journeyman could apply to this fella as well..... 

But knowing our luck big name would be fucking Benitez.......................

 

Aren't Spurs mid table? You feel that big Ange needs to go on a good run now, if they drop down to say 13th that would look very ugly and Levy will likely pull the trigger.

There next 4 games are Man City, Fulham, B'mouth and Chelsea. Not easy.

If people complain like mad about Lopetegui's defence being so open at times, then fuck knows what they'll make of Mr. Naive Postenoclue's slack defensive play and total ignorance to trying to sort out set plays as well.  And the difference there is Postecoglu has had an extra full season and 3 transfer windows to operate in, whilst Lopetegui's only had 1 transfer window and 3 months of a season and yet both have lost the same amount of games in the League.

Dont forget Ange was Brady’s favourite to be a big success. He hasnt been, she knows nothing about football hence meets the Sullivan selection criteria. He’s very old too.

Nailed on as new manager

Dear God, we started off with reasonable replacements like Iraola, Terzic, Van Nistlerooy if we're going to make a change soon, but the suggestions are getting more and more desperate by the day now.

Nolan as manager and Collins as the assistant