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Ron Eff" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 21:24

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:51

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:40

 

I think you’re an absolute idiot for your opinion on Kilman. He made one mistake today. But is the very least of the issues. Some games he’s been our best player, or among them, but you’re quiet on him then. You decided he was shit when we signed him. He’s not shit. Therefore, you’re a fucking idiot with posts like that. 

 

I had the opinion that he isn't worth buying, not even at 25m. Our defence isn't better for him. He hasn't done anything to prove me wrong. The same as when I pointed out Lopetegui would be the wrong man, of which you now concede he obviously isn't too.

6 1/2 more years of this bloke being our centre back, as no club will ever be interested in taking him.

 

Kilman isn’t an issue. You made your comment when he signed and you’ll forever double down on it if he makes a mistake. You’ll never praise him for good performances, so your view becomes redundant. He was excellent against Newcastle for example. Where was your commentary on him then? Or Palace?

threesixty wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 21:51

goose wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 21:22

threesixty wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 21:19

So conversely, when we win 2-0 under Moyes with 22% possession with 2 counter attacks against a team that passes us off the park that’s “decent football”. 
oh please .  You’re the reason we are in this mess. Fans who think scraping wins with crappy football is actually a good thing. As I said earlier, I can tell who actually watches the games and who just looks at the results. 

Are you mental? You think shipping 5 at home is in anyway acceptable? 

When & where did I mention Moyes or preferring 22% possession?
You’re either suffering some kind of episode or you should stay away from football as it’s just not for you.

 

So if you ship 5 goals but scored 2 it always means you played no quality football at all within the 90 minutes? Right …
 
and who said it was “acceptable”. I just said I saw some good play from us at times.
You said you saw nothing good. Im just questioning what made you say that. 

way too binary.. 

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 21:50 been watching football for a long time now, but I'm not sure there's ever been a more unlikable side than this current arsenal team. I don't deny they can play decent football, but the play acting, cynical cheating behaviour, arrogance and general lack of class really puts them above any team I've hated in the past. their fans are a big part of that, but maybe the biggest reason is having that detestable cսnt arteta as manager. the one comfort you can take is they'll continue to choke when it matters regarding the league and in europe, but they really are a scum outfit

Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 21:50 been watching football for a long time now, but I'm not sure there's ever been a more unlikable team than this current arsenal team. I don't deny they can play decent football, but the play acting, cynical behaviour and general lack of class really puts them above any team I've hated in the past. their fans are a big part of that, but maybe the biggest reason is having that detestable cսnt arteta as manager. the one comfort you can take is they'll continue to choke when it matters regarding the league and in europe, but they really are a scum outfit

goose wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 21:22

threesixty wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 21:19

goose wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:49

 

I’m not sure if you’re familiar with football 360, it seems to be a foreign language to you.

One decent pass at 0-4 down is nothing to be celebrating. So this great football we played at times was one pass and a decent finish. The free kick isn’t decent football, it wasn’t even a free kick.

Arteta was seething because his side gave away two soft goals after absolutely dominating the game. 

I think Neville described us as ‘pathetic’ and he was right.

So conversely, when we win 2-0 under Moyes with 22% possession with 2 counter attacks against a team that passes us off the park that’s “decent football”. 
oh please .  You’re the reason we are in this mess. Fans who think scraping wins with crappy football is actually a good thing. As I said earlier, I can tell who actually watches the games and who just looks at the results. 

Are you mental? You think shipping 5 at home is in anyway acceptable? 

When & where did I mention Moyes or preferring 22% possession?
You’re either suffering some kind of episode or you should stay away from football as it’s just not for you.

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:51

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:40

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:30

 

Lopetegui spent 150m in the summer, bringing in 3 new defenders, and we have conceded half the amount of goals we let in at home last season in just 7 games.

If you had a valid argument you wouldn't have resorted to the insult.

 

I think you’re an absolute idiot for your opinion on Kilman. He made one mistake today. But is the very least of the issues. Some games he’s been our best player, or among them, but you’re quiet on him then. You decided he was shit when we signed him. He’s not shit. Therefore, you’re a fucking idiot with posts like that. 

 

I had the opinion that he isn't worth buying, not even at 25m. Our defence isn't better for him. He hasn't done anything to prove me wrong. The same as when I pointed out Lopetegui would be the wrong man, of which you now concede he obviously isn't too.

6 1/2 more years of this bloke being our centre back, as no club will ever be interested in taking him.

threesixty wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 21:19

goose wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:49

threesixty wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:38

 

Need to get down to spec savers pronto!
The pass from Soler to AWB for the goal was world class
after going 4 nil down in the first half and to still do that?

and Emerson’s free kick as well. We brought in the best free kick taker in the PL last season and he didn’t get 1 goal from a free kick. Emerson made it look easy against one the best defensive sides in world football. 

but no, we were completely shit and arsenal just let us score. So much so that arteta was seething on the touchline!

but do go on… 

 

I’m not sure if you’re familiar with football 360, it seems to be a foreign language to you.

One decent pass at 0-4 down is nothing to be celebrating. So this great football we played at times was one pass and a decent finish. The free kick isn’t decent football, it wasn’t even a free kick.

Arteta was seething because his side gave away two soft goals after absolutely dominating the game. 

I think Neville described us as ‘pathetic’ and he was right.

So conversely, when we win 2-0 under Moyes with 22% possession with 2 counter attacks against a team that passes us off the park that’s “decent football”. 
oh please .  You’re the reason we are in this mess. Fans who think scraping wins with crappy football is actually a good thing. As I said earlier, I can tell who actually watches the games and who just looks at the results. 

goose wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:49

threesixty wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:38

goose wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:19

 

Didn’t look like abject shit? What game did you watch?
it was a blessing arsenal decided to treat the 2nd half as a training session.

Someone should have told Newcastle & Bournemouth not to bother trying to beat arsenal.

 

Need to get down to spec savers pronto!
The pass from Soler to AWB for the goal was world class
after going 4 nil down in the first half and to still do that?

and Emerson’s free kick as well. We brought in the best free kick taker in the PL last season and he didn’t get 1 goal from a free kick. Emerson made it look easy against one the best defensive sides in world football. 

but no, we were completely shit and arsenal just let us score. So much so that arteta was seething on the touchline!

but do go on… 

 

I’m not sure if you’re familiar with football 360, it seems to be a foreign language to you.

One decent pass at 0-4 down is nothing to be celebrating. So this great football we played at times was one pass and a decent finish. The free kick isn’t decent football, it wasn’t even a free kick.

Arteta was seething because his side gave away two soft goals after absolutely dominating the game. 

I think Neville described us as ‘pathetic’ and he was right.

So conversely, when we win 2-0 under Moyes with 22% possession with 2 counter attacks against a team that passes us off the park that’s “decent football”. 
oh please .  You’re the reason we are in this mess. Fans who think scraping wins with crappy football is actually a good thing. As I said earlier, I can tell who actually watches the games and who just looks at the results. 

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:40

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:30

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:03

 

You’re a fucking idiot. 

 

Lopetegui spent 150m in the summer, bringing in 3 new defenders, and we have conceded half the amount of goals we let in at home last season in just 7 games.

If you had a valid argument you wouldn't have resorted to the insult.

 

I think you’re an absolute idiot for your opinion on Kilman. He made one mistake today. But is the very least of the issues. Some games he’s been our best player, or among them, but you’re quiet on him then. You decided he was shit when we signed him. He’s not shit. Therefore, you’re a fucking idiot with posts like that. 

threesixty wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:38

goose wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:19

threesixty wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:03

 

Why benchmark ourselves against Arsenal? Makes
no sense. 
no one expected us to get anything out of this one. 

yes we have old players, but the other side to that is experience over just raw energy. I don’t think it’s worth changing coach because we get spanked by arsenal. If we get spanked by Leicester , wolves etc. then by all means. But not Arsenal. 

I actually enjoyed the game because normally when we ship 5 goals we look like abject shit. We didn’t this time. That’s some level of progress surely?

 

Didn’t look like abject shit? What game did you watch?
it was a blessing arsenal decided to treat the 2nd half as a training session.

Someone should have told Newcastle & Bournemouth not to bother trying to beat arsenal.

 

Need to get down to spec savers pronto!
The pass from Soler to AWB for the goal was world class
after going 4 nil down in the first half and to still do that?

and Emerson’s free kick as well. We brought in the best free kick taker in the PL last season and he didn’t get 1 goal from a free kick. Emerson made it look easy against one the best defensive sides in world football. 

but no, we were completely shit and arsenal just let us score. So much so that arteta was seething on the touchline!

but do go on… 

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:30

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:03

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 19:35 Disgraceful performance. 

Lopetegui needs to go and he can take that abysmal pile of shit Kilman with him.

45m and a seven year contract makes him easy one of the worst signings in football history. 

 

You’re a fucking idiot. 

 

Lopetegui spent 150m in the summer, bringing in 3 new defenders, and we have conceded half the amount of goals we let in at home last season in just 7 games.

If you had a valid argument you wouldn't have resorted to the insult.

goose wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:19

threesixty wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:03

Sir Alf" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 19:48 We dont have enough speed up top or a Rice type figure in midfield who can get up and down and run with the ball.

On the day, they were streets ahead because we look and have an ageing team for this league. Even Emerson is 30.  Soucek, Fab, Emerson, Antonio, and 33 year old Ings a sub.  Some of these players are not up to it physically and in the case of Soucek, Antonio they lack the technique too.  Arsenal gave us no time on the ball and we just could not keep it. When they had it we had no legs to effectively press them.   We were statues in comparison at times with for example Emerson and others failing to track Saka on their best goal, Antonio not able to keep with Gabriel on their first and although harsh 2 pens from being a fraction late with tackles / punch that a ref like Taylor will always give.

Still 4 better players short of a team that can give the best, quick teams a game and 7 or 8 better players to create a squad capable of competing at the top end of the league.  The coach Loppy is trying to get us to play more progressively with it but Arsenal and the better teams show we dont really have the players for it.

Best player for us was Wan Bassaka by a mile.  Soler was ok, as was Todibo ( 5s out of 10 ) but the rest were struggling to compete with Arsenal.   

The games coming up are about trying to see if we can compete more at our level which is currently mid table at best.

New coach?  I would go for Allegri simply because he will abandon trying to get ahead of ourselves and fit a system to the players he has or at least he has proved he can implement different tactical systems ( according to Wiki )

 

Why benchmark ourselves against Arsenal? Makes
no sense. 
no one expected us to get anything out of this one. 

yes we have old players, but the other side to that is experience over just raw energy. I don’t think it’s worth changing coach because we get spanked by arsenal. If we get spanked by Leicester , wolves etc. then by all means. But not Arsenal. 

I actually enjoyed the game because normally when we ship 5 goals we look like abject shit. We didn’t this time. That’s some level of progress surely?

 

Didn’t look like abject shit? What game did you watch?
it was a blessing arsenal decided to treat the 2nd half as a training session.

Someone should have told Newcastle & Bournemouth not to bother trying to beat arsenal.

fraser wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:34

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:30

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:03

 

You’re a fucking idiot. 

 

Lopetegui spent 150m in the summer, bringing in 3 new defenders, and we have conceded half the amount of goals we let in at home last season in just 7 games.

If you had a valid argument you wouldn't have resorted to the insult.

You miserable cսnt, we lost 0-6 last season, massive improvement  

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:30

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:03

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 19:35 Disgraceful performance. 

Lopetegui needs to go and he can take that abysmal pile of shit Kilman with him.

45m and a seven year contract makes him easy one of the worst signings in football history. 

 

You’re a fucking idiot. 

 

Lopetegui spent 150m in the summer, bringing in 3 new defenders, and we have conceded half the amount of goals we let in at home last season in just 7 games.

If you had a valid argument you wouldn't have resorted to the insult.

You miserable cսnt, we lost 0-6 last season, massive improvement  

Ron Eff" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 20:03

Jaan Kenbrovin" wrote: ↑30 Nov 2024, 19:35 Disgraceful performance. 

Lopetegui needs to go and he can take that abysmal pile of shit Kilman with him.

45m and a seven year contract makes him easy one of the worst signings in football history. 

 

You’re a fucking idiot.