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Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 05 Dec 2024, 13:02
by stubbo
Supposedly told the Club via Scarf that he's off if Lopetegui remains.

Given how coveted a player he was, and the fact we're committed to spending 40m on him, I'd suggest that adds more leverage than it should (lose 20m binning off an unhappy player or 10m binning off the manager whose underperforming anyway).

Would love to be a fly in the wall in the board meeting when Steidten present what is no doubt some kind of 'get rid' dossier.

Omnishables.

 

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 06:21
by Fauxstralian
You can’t have players giving the manager a smack
Every club has falling outs between players & with managers but it sounds like Loppy is managing to fall out quite seriously with a few
Suspect he will be the ex manager fairly soon so maybe a reset of sorts 
Same old West Ham circus
Wont change til Sullivan & Brady are out the door 

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 05:30
by Massive Attack
We've always been a dysfunctional Club full of fucked drama down the years, much like the current Todibo/Lopetegui situation that's in keeping with our Clubs tradition. This latest fucked up situation shouldn't come as a surprise and to suggest otherwise would be disingenuous.  

I don't always see it as a negative either as I think it's partly what makes us unique and separates us from the boring nothing Clubs that exist with little going on by comparison. Makes us interesting. And sometimes good can actually come of it.

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 04:02
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Council Scum" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 09:16
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 06:07
Council Scum" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 19:47
He chinned Lop at half time 
I'd want somebody with that much passion for the game to be the first name on the team sheet.
Not sure what's gonna happen now, but from what I was told, he definitely smacked him at half time. 
Not acceptable.
get the player out ...followed swiftly by the manager

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 03:58
by Sydney_Iron
We are not fucked up by any measure but fuck me we make hard work of things!!! Replacing Moyes was classic West Ham fuckaboutery.....With the ideal candidate (Amorim) within our grasp, but we eventually passed.........

Todido is French so maybe a moody fucker as is the MO with a lot of them, bags of talent but the Spaniard doesn't seem to know how to handle or even play him, no wonder he's getting frustrated.

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 03:54
by Massive Attack
Go argue with a wheelie bin, Moan well...

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 03:48
by Manuel
Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 03:32 Again, it's gone right over your little head what I was getting at..

Back to Todibo. Found this interesting from a French football fan on kumb...


There are also stories about his negative influence in the locker room. Hard to tell what's true and what's pinned on him due to his erratic behaviour when he was younger. In his interviews, he sounds like he truly matured , but there are still very ugly, totally impossible to verify, stories about how negative an influence he has in the team.

Misko on Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:46 pm


Looks like Monsieur Todibo has a bad habit kicking off behind the scenes pissing everyone off and causing a bad atmosphere...

I thought something wasn't sitting right about the situation, yet people were quick to assume it was the Manager that was the problem, not the player. 
You said we're a fucked up club, but we're not. Just fucking own it, you boring cսnt droning on all day.

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 03:46
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Massive Attack" wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 03:32 Again, it's gone right over your little head what I was getting at..

Back to Todibo. Found this interesting from a French football fan on kumb...


There are also stories about his negative influence in the locker room. Hard to tell what's true and what's pinned on him due to his erratic behaviour when he was younger. In his interviews, he sounds like he truly matured , but there are still very ugly, totally impossible to verify, stories about how negative an influence he has in the team.

Misko on Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:46 pm


Looks like Monsieur Todibo has a bad habit kicking off behind the scenes pissing everyone off and causing a bad atmosphere...

I thought something wasn't sitting right about the situation, yet people were quick to assume it was the Manager that was the problem, not the player. 
Locker room?

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 03:45
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Manuel wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 02:44
Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 02:30
Manuel wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 01:59
Why do you come out of with this cringey bollocks like we're some special case. We ain't. There are many clubs more 'fucked up' than us. One season outside the top flight in recent history, top 6 finishes, and a European trophy, yea really fucked up. Give it a rest you mong.
 
"MONG"
perfect example of how it is now.
My Niece is 13yrs old and down - syndrome ...to me she's perfect 
but I don't start or react to WORDS by strangers on here or anywhere  else...because I know it's not personal.
I say shit all the time  and long may it continue.

 Thing is that it would be different altogether if you knew .
that's the difference 
Yea a bit late in the day for that now after what 25 years, been called a nonce and kiddly fiddler more times than I care to remember.

Anyway, we ain't a fucked up club, we're actually in a very good place these days. We've just made a bad managerial appointment, so a moronic, cringey thing to come out with.Everyone knows your not ...but you carry- on  with a massive chip on your shoulder all the time

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 03:32
by Massive Attack
Again, it's gone right over your little head what I was getting at..

Back to Todibo. Found this interesting from a French football fan on kumb...


There are also stories about his negative influence in the locker room. Hard to tell what's true and what's pinned on him due to his erratic behaviour when he was younger. In his interviews, he sounds like he truly matured , but there are still very ugly, totally impossible to verify, stories about how negative an influence he has in the team.

Misko on Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:46 pm


Looks like Monsieur Todibo has a bad habit kicking off behind the scenes pissing everyone off and causing a bad atmosphere...

I thought something wasn't sitting right about the situation, yet people were quick to assume it was the Manager that was the problem, not the player. 

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 02:44
by Manuel
Monsieur merde de cheval" wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 02:30
Manuel wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 01:59
Massive Attack" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 11:23
I bet those nosey weirdo's over at Amazon Prime are kicking themselves to never set one of those shit documentaries up at our Stadium. It would be a ratings smash hit following our fucked up Club.
Why do you come out of with this cringey bollocks like we're some special case. We ain't. There are many clubs more 'fucked up' than us. One season outside the top flight in recent history, top 6 finishes, and a European trophy, yea really fucked up. Give it a rest you mong.
 
"MONG"
perfect example of how it is now.
My Niece is 13yrs old and down - syndrome ...to me she's perfect 
but I don't start or react to WORDS by strangers on here or anywhere  else...because I know it's not personal.
I say shit all the time  and long may it continue.

 Thing is that it would be different altogether if you knew .
that's the difference 
Yea a bit late in the day for that now after what 25 years, been called a nonce and kiddly fiddler more times than I care to remember.

Anyway, we ain't a fucked up club, we're actually in a very good place these days. We've just made a bad managerial appointment, so a moronic, cringey thing to come out with.

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 02:30
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Manuel wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 01:59
Massive Attack" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 11:23
I bet those nosey weirdo's over at Amazon Prime are kicking themselves to never set one of those shit documentaries up at our Stadium. It would be a ratings smash hit following our fucked up Club.
Why do you come out of with this cringey bollocks like we're some special case. We ain't. There are many clubs more 'fucked up' than us. One season outside the top flight in recent history, top 6 finishes, and a European trophy, yea really fucked up. Give it a rest you mong.
 
 
"MONG"
perfect example of how it is now.
My Niece is 13yrs old and down - syndrome ...to me she's perfect 
but I don't start or react to WORDS by strangers on here or anywhere  else...because I know it's not personal.
I say shit all the time  and long may it continue.

 Thing is that it would be different altogether if you knew .
that's the difference 

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 02:20
by Massive Attack
Manuel wrote: 07 Dec 2024, 01:59
Massive Attack" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 11:23
I bet those nosey weirdo's over at Amazon Prime are kicking themselves to never set one of those shit documentaries up at our Stadium. It would be a ratings smash hit following our fucked up Club.
Why do you come out of with this cringey bollocks like we're some special case. We ain't. There are many clubs more 'fucked up' than us. One season outside the top flight in recent history, top 6 finishes, and a European trophy, yea really fucked up. Give it a rest you mong.
Look at you taking it to heart! 🤣

It ain't that deep and was more a lighthearted post. However there's not many Clubs that continously has the drama that surrounds ours both great and bad. 

From Tevez fiasco, to Onmoyinmi, Bonds scheme, Burnley protest, Roeder collapsing from a brain aneurysm, Berkovic almost getting his block knocked off by Hartson, Bagpuss bungs, Carroll at gun point with an attempted mugging in car chase, Chocolate fucking Flethcers missus behind his back, Moore and Greeves in trouble after going on the lash before Blackpool FA Cup game, Moore bogota bracelet scandal, Etherington owing vilian loan sharks for his gambling, Avram Grant dodgy massage parlours, dramatic Cup Finals, Davenport almost losing his legs to a vicious knife attack, Newton coke controversy, McAvennie and Carroll on the party scene, the list is endless and defy any other Club to have the non stop dramas we generally seem to have.

The highs and lows both on and off the pitch are next level at this Club and wouldn't have it any other way. 

And of course I wouldn't really want those nosey wankers snooping on it all just for viewing kicks, I'm glad we refuse to do something like that. Just saying it wouldn't half be an entertaining watch if it was. 

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 02:05
by Monsieur merde de cheval
 
I rather saw JLo out the door and Todibo staying.
 And I'd like to saw your ears off 

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 02:03
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Keep dreaming" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 22:50 I rather saw JLo out the door and Todibo staying.
I'd like to saw your ears off  
 

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 01:59
by Manuel
Massive Attack" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 11:23
I bet those nosey weirdo's over at Amazon Prime are kicking themselves to never set one of those shit documentaries up at our Stadium. It would be a ratings smash hit following our fucked up Club.
Why do you come out of with this cringey bollocks like we're some special case. We ain't. There are many clubs more 'fucked up' than us. One season outside the top flight in recent history, top 6 finishes, and a European trophy, yea really fucked up. Give it a rest you mong.

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 07 Dec 2024, 01:54
by Monsieur merde de cheval
Council Scum" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 09:16
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 06:07
Council Scum" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 19:47
He chinned Lop at half time 
I'd want somebody with that much passion for the game to be the first name on the team sheet.
Not sure what's gonna happen now, but from what I was told, he definitely smacked him at half time. 
If that's true then he needs booting out asap... preferably to CFC   TOTTENHAM or WALL

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 23:03
by Massive Attack
Leavemyarcelona wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 22:23
Massive Attack" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 22:19
Leavemyarcelona wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 17:14 Fuck him off and bring casey in
Thought had crossed my mind to play Casey anyway and he has been on the bench and few times now this season, the last being up at Leciester. 
We need some sort of identity back, we are suppose to be academy of football
The way I see it this season, I think he's wanted to do that but the way the season has panned out, he's been reluctant to chuck them in due to too much pressure. I've noticed quite a few times now he's had Academy players on the bench but probably thinks the pressure is too intense to rely on just yet and doesnt want to damage them.

Casey
Scarles
Mayers

I think especially Casey and Scarles they are very close to playing soon when the situation calms down a bit. All 3 Defenders, too..

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 22:50
by Keep dreaming
I rather saw JLo out the door and Todibo staying.

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 22:23
by Leavemyarcelona
Massive Attack" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 22:19
Leavemyarcelona wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 17:14 Fuck him off and bring casey in
Thought had crossed my mind to play Casey anyway and he has been on the bench and few times now this season, the last being up at Leciester. 
We need some sort of identity back, we are suppose to be academy of football

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 22:19
by Massive Attack
Leavemyarcelona wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 17:14 Fuck him off and bring casey in
Thought had crossed my mind to play Casey anyway and he has been on the bench and few times now this season, the last being up at Leciester. 

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 17:14
by Leavemyarcelona
Fuck him off and bring casey in

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 14:47
by Sir Alf
Todibo has the necessary physical attributes to be a top player but needs to now show his psychology is up to it.  He never seems to get fully fit which may be the adjustment to the intensity in the Premiership which happens for some foreign players.  I just hope we see the best of him and he’s not another Demba Ba who then does well elsewhere.  The fact that Steidten brought him in might be a good thing longer term as Steidten is obviously in the “Loppy Out” camp.

Players usually get upset if singled put for criticism which is what might have happened vs Arsenal.  All I know is we need him to play ahead of Stavros whenever possible.

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 11:23
by Massive Attack
It would be such a West Ham thing for our Manager and Defender to have a proper tear up in the dressing room in front of everyone, only for us to then go on to having a half decent season. Now that really would be The West Ham Way.. 

I bet those nosey weirdo's over at Amazon Prime are kicking themselves to never set one of those shit documentaries up at our Stadium. It would be a ratings smash hit following our fucked up Club.

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 10:45
by Far Cough UKunt
I think even Sir Alex would have had some respect if say Roy Keane had lumped him at half time, because they disagreed on something.

Yeah, no?

Re: Jean Clair Todibo...

Posted: 06 Dec 2024, 09:56
by Massive Attack
Council Scum" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 09:16
Mike Oxsaw" wrote: 06 Dec 2024, 06:07
Council Scum" wrote: 05 Dec 2024, 19:47
He chinned Lop at half time 
I'd want somebody with that much passion for the game to be the first name on the team sheet.
Not sure what's gonna happen now, but from what I was told, he definitely smacked him at half time. 
We'll see how good his management really is, if he can manage to turn this situation around. If he's clever he could use it to his advantage by not giving him too much of a hard time, heat of the moment thing and just shows how much he cares kinda guff. 

Something made Todibo go out 2nd half to help the Team not concede by keeping a clean sheet straight after in a game that had already gone, so he was professional enough to pull it together enough to do that. We were then told he missed Leicester due to his persistent groin injury and would rather let that recover than make him play twice in quick succession. Now that might just be bollocks to cover for his conduct lumping him, or it might just be the truth and we may see him play on Monday or the near future again. 

Never a dull moment following our Club. Ever. 😆

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