A flag should be about pride. About unity. About celebrating who we are.That’s not what’s happening right now. These England flags going up everywhere?That’s not patriotism. That’s marking territory. That’s sending a message.And the message is ugly: “This is ours. You don’t belong here.”That isn’t pride. That’s fear. That’s exclusion. That’s racism dressed up as tradition.Real patriotism doesn’t slam the door in someone’s face. Real patriotism says: we are strong enough, proud enough, confident enough to welcome others in. To share our values — values of fairness, decency, tolerance — the values that have always made Britain worth being proud of.When you turn the flag into a weapon, you betray it. You betray our history. You betray the very idea of Britain.Because the truth is this: our flag should say we belong together. Not you stay out.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 05 Sep 2025, 16:33
by Mike Oxsaw
Has anyone actually felt threatened by a host nation's flag when they were living and/or working outside the UK?
BRANDED wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025, 13:27
Flags have been a virtue signal of choice for lefties for ever. For most people they represent their home culture.
It's a bit rich for Labour to stop us flying St George's and Union flags. Their own fucking theme song is all about a flag.
A song and flying flag a aren't the same thing you retard.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 05 Sep 2025, 13:48
by BRANDED
Quite. They love a hammer a sickle, red, rainbow, Ukraine and Palestinian to name a few.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 05 Sep 2025, 13:46
by SurfaceAgentX2Zero
BRANDED wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025, 13:27
Flags have been a virtue signal of choice for lefties for ever. For most people they represent their home culture.
It's a bit rich for Labour to stop us flying St George's and Union flags. Their own fucking theme song is all about a flag.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 16:14
by XKhammer
On a sensible note if you want this government out keep up the demos,vote them out on every by-election
Unfortunately they have such a large majority that in reality we are stuck with them for 4 more years
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025, 13:43
There is not an honest person here that would defend Starmer and his Gov’t.
What is going on is beyond belief. Not much longer now before it really starts to get ugly. At what point does this Gov’t fall? What will it take, a national strike?
This can’t go on for another 4 years, surely.
For once I agree with you; they have been an utter shambles so far.
I think they will cling on to the bitter end though with that massive parliamentary majority.
Want them out?
Quickest way is to fuck their cash flow. Move off PAYE and onto annual self-assessment, Get the petrol tanker drivers out on strike again, claim back VAT on anything and everything - overwhelm them with demands on the services they're legally obliged to deliver.
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025, 13:43
There is not an honest person here that would defend Starmer and his Gov’t.
What is going on is beyond belief. Not much longer now before it really starts to get ugly. At what point does this Gov’t fall? What will it take, a national strike?
This can’t go on for another 4 years, surely.
For once I agree with you; they have been an utter shambles so far.
I think they will cling on to the bitter end though with that massive parliamentary majority.
Want them out?
Quickest way is to fuck their cash flow. Move off PAYE and onto annual self-assessment, Get the petrol tanker drivers out on strike again, claim back VAT on anything and everything - overwhelm them with demands on the services they're legally obliged to deliver.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 14:56
by zebthecat
Nutsin wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025, 13:43
There is not an honest person here that would defend Starmer and his Gov’t.
What is going on is beyond belief. Not much longer now before it really starts to get ugly. At what point does this Gov’t fall? What will it take, a national strike?
This can’t go on for another 4 years, surely.
For once I agree with you; they have been an utter shambles so far.
I think they will cling on to the bitter end though with that massive parliamentary majority.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 13:43
by Nutsin
There is not an honest person here that would defend Starmer and his Gov’t.
What is going on is beyond belief. Not much longer now before it really starts to get ugly. At what point does this Gov’t fall? What will it take, a national strike?
This can’t go on for another 4 years, surely.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 13:30
by Mike Oxsaw
BRANDED wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025, 13:27
Flags have been a virtue signal of choice for lefties for ever. For most people they represent their home culture.
...as have a football club's colours.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 13:27
by BRANDED
Flags have been a virtue signal of choice for lefties for ever. For most people they represent their home culture.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 13:16
by Westside
Tomshardware wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025, 12:01
Seen some roundabouts with red crosses in my neck of the woods. All a bit sad really if you've got time to go around doing that sort of thing.
Almost as sad as local authorities, using tax payers money, to paint zebra crossings, in rainbow colours.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 12:01
by Tomshardware
Seen some roundabouts with red crosses in my neck of the woods. All a bit sad really if you've got time to go around doing that sort of thing.
Yeah those places like Venice, Florence and Rome with all their renaissance 14th and 15th century art is rubbish as are those horrible Alps and beaches. Don't get me started on that shit music by Puccini and Vivaldi or the crap food. They have nothing to compare with us.
And also of course those slim but voluptuous raven haired olive skinned woman. Give me a pasty fat ginger English bird any day.
My wife is Italian (Ravello) and ginger....
My ex-wife is Irish and ginger although she swears to this day that her hair is strawberry blonde.
Yeah those places like Venice, Florence and Rome with all their renaissance 14th and 15th century art is rubbish as are those horrible Alps and beaches. Don't get me started on that shit music by Puccini and Vivaldi or the crap food. They have nothing to compare with us.
And also of course those slim but voluptuous raven haired olive skinned woman. Give me a pasty fat ginger English bird any day.
My wife is Italian (Ravello) and ginger....
Probably has origins from Celtic slaves brought by the Romans.
Yeah those places like Venice, Florence and Rome with all their renaissance 14th and 15th century art is rubbish as are those horrible Alps and beaches. Don't get me started on that shit music by Puccini and Vivaldi or the crap food. They have nothing to compare with us.
And also of course those slim but voluptuous raven haired olive skinned woman. Give me a pasty fat ginger English bird any day.
goose wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025, 17:02
they are passing that up for the offer of loads of free shit.
they come to the place that offers the most and has the best chance of granting asylum.
Or maybe the Eyetie women are rotten
joyo i've seen your fat mess of a wife, you're on thin ice son. ironically if she was on thin ice she'd have no chance.
best you stick to disabled cambodian girls.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 10:26
by XKhammer
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑03 Sep 2025, 10:07
regarding Whoa Tommy Tommy, he has more patriotism for Israel than England. like man of the people, Nigel, he's just another paid agitator that will solve fuck all but get plenty of people in bother. the whole fucking system is corrupt. left, right, centre. all scum
Do you always look on the bright side of life?
Can l buy you a half empty pint of misery?
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 10:20
by XKhammer
goose wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025, 17:02
they are passing that up for the offer of loads of free shit.
they come to the place that offers the most and has the best chance of granting asylum.
Or maybe the Eyetie women are rotten
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 10:07
by Takashi Miike
regarding Whoa Tommy Tommy, he has more patriotism for Israel than England. like man of the people, Nigel, he's just another paid agitator that will solve fuck all but get plenty of people in bother. the whole fucking system is corrupt. left, right, centre. all scum
only1billybonds wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025, 17:36
I actually agree with Swiss on this point. The politicians are more to blame than those seeking free stuff and an easy ride. If the government (and those before it) made it less appealing to be here then less of them would come.
And that is just it
You can see the reason for the influx and the solution the same as most other people with a brain so why cant successive governments ?
And then implement the changes to make it less attractive ?
Putting illegals in repurposed military barracks and detention centres rather than four star hotels in Canary wharf might be a start.
Exactly that. I have known people who work for companies that set up illegal immigrant set ups and do security. One of them said that in one case the immigrants came in and were demanding phones and money. They said what about some food and warmth first. They weren't interested. One bloke said they housing they set provided is "quite extravangant" for illegal immigrants.
Its fucking ridiculous.
My solution would be off shore facilities. If the illegals knew they would be spending most of their time on a boat with basic facilities.
As you say, putting illegal immigrants in posh hotels and in hotels within residential communities is a fucking disgrace. Surely the government knew there would be a backlash.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 07:51
by Gary Strodders shank
only1billybonds wrote: ↑02 Sep 2025, 17:36
I actually agree with Swiss on this point. The politicians are more to blame than those seeking free stuff and an easy ride. If the government (and those before it) made it less appealing to be here then less of them would come.
And that is just it
You can see the reason for the influx and the solution the same as most other people with a brain so why cant successive governments ?
And then implement the changes to make it less attractive ?
Putting illegals in repurposed military barracks and detention centres rather than four star hotels in Canary wharf might be a start.
Re: Patriotism
Posted: 03 Sep 2025, 07:49
by Russ of the BML
Jusr got back from Spain and we stayed in a villa in a mostly Spanish residential area where there are also apartments that Spanish use to holiday. Virtually every single community or set up had a Spanish flag up. We spoke to a barman about what is going on in UK and he said the Spanish flag is very commonly flown all across the country for no other reason than its Spain. He couldn't see the issue with it.
Problem is, for years we have had to dilute our patriotism because the left fascists call it racism. Hopefully this is a sway back to normality where our flag is commonly seen.
