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Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 12:49
by camel-with-3-humps
In light of the horrific display at Wolves, is Max Kilman the worst centre back we've had? There is probably worse, but I can't remember.
Gary Breen was pretty bad. He didn't make as many mistakes as Kilman, but he was weak - like a road cone easily bypassed.
Views?
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 14:16
by Ron Eff
Fauxstralian wrote: ↑06 Jan 2026, 14:09
Malky Mackay & Andy Melville were poor but only played 40 games between them & cost nothing rather than £40m
I’d have both over Kilman and his perma dazed look only concentrated on ensuring the ball doesn’t hit his gormless head.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 14:15
by Fauxstralian
Didn’t see it but believe Gary O’Neil was on MNF one night & said he had to kick him up the arse regularly as he continually switched off in games
Would have been nice to hear that before we signed him
Lopetegui also managed him but insisted he wanted him
Maybe someone should have asked Craig Dawson who carried him at Wolves
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 14:14
by OK_Guy
Tommy Taylor... could be a great defender on his day but fuck my, was he a utter calamity waiting to happen.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 14:11
by Alfs
I know one! There was this really fat kid in my school who'd lost his leg below the knee to sepsis but we picked him to play out of sympa...actually, he could head the ball so scrap that.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 14:09
by Fauxstralian
Malky Mackay & Andy Melville were poor but only played 40 games between them & cost nothing rather than £40m
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 14:00
by claypole
It's got to the point where I feel pity for him. Yes he is earning big money but as a man he must be aware of how far out of his depth he is on that pitch. His pride must take a hammering every game.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:54
by theaxeman
I've seen worse technically, Hilton, Strodder to name a couple, but none with so little heart.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:46
by Sir Alf
Not the worst if you leave transfer fee out of it but once factoring that in he wins by a country mile.
He may not be guilty of this but he looks like someone who doesnt want to get hurt ? What we need now is the opposite of that. Stavros was guilty of that too for the 3rd goal against Wolves. These geezers should be busting a gut and thowing their bodies to make blocks. Although I suppose that might he dangerous with Kilman as he’ll be 5 mins late and give away even more pens.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:27
by Takashi Miike
some I couldn't stand - breen, dailly, r.song, upson but all better compared to this gutless fucker
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:27
by Jaan Kenbrovin
Yes he is. Which is what I said before he joined too.
A defender who doesn’t read the game, and hasn’t got any specific quality in any area.
He will be just as bad in the Championship.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:21
by Far Cough UKunt
and to think Ukraine wanted him to play for them?
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:19
by Eerie Decent
Breen was awful, but he played about 10 games for us, after signing on a free.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:18
by camel-with-3-humps
Eerie Decent" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2026, 13:10
Definitely as a long term, first choice.
You can see by his expressionless face, he hasn't got a clue. Has the physical attributes, but fuck me, there's not 2 football braincells to rub together in that noggin. ZERO defensive nous.
Centre backs, in particular, need to take a lot of responsibility on themselves, this lad is appalling in that regard. I don't want to do a COYI, but I said in the summer he was going to be our biggest problem this season for a variety of reasons, doesn't seem to be the bravest call now, but at the time there was a bit of pushback to the comment.
The moment I knew categorically that there was no hope with him, was when we played Liverpool away last season, Ollie Scarles was at LWB having an absolute mare against Salah, Kilman was at LCB, and completely left the kid to burn. No talking to him, no pushing up to get closer to him to protect him, just stayed in his position, silent as always, and watched the disaster unfold with the rest of us.
Now goes down, easily, as the worst signing in our history. It's not even close.
That Scarles anecdote is quite telling. He lacks character obviously.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:12
by Far Cough UKunt
I'd like to run on the pitch and kick him right up the arse, be worth a ban just for that alone.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:12
by onsideman
Breen and Kilman are on a par, I'd say
However Breen didn't cost £40m and wasn't on a 7 year contract so that has to be taken into consideration.
I remember Breen being described as backing away from the ball like a dog backs away from a vacuum cleaner. Couldn't have put it better
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:10
by GBHammer63
Kilman is an enigma, got most requirements on paper but you can’t coach bottle. Fed up of him walking around meekly looking at his feet. Doesn’t seem like there’s any desire from him to improve from what he is, Bentley driving cowardly big time Charlie. Could be our biggest ever loss maker if some fucking idiot club came in for him.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:10
by Eerie Decent
Definitely as a long term, first choice.
You can see by his expressionless face, he hasn't got a clue. Has the physical attributes, but fuck me, there's not 2 football braincells to rub together in that noggin. ZERO defensive nous.
Centre backs, in particular, need to take a lot of responsibility on themselves, this lad is appalling in that regard. I don't want to do a COYI, but I said in the summer he was going to be our biggest problem this season for a variety of reasons, doesn't seem to be the bravest call now, but at the time there was a bit of pushback to the comment.
The moment I knew categorically that there was no hope with him, was when we played Liverpool away last season, Ollie Scarles was at LWB having an absolute mare against Salah, Kilman was at LCB, and completely left the kid to burn. No talking to him, no pushing up to get closer to him to protect him, just stayed in his position, silent as always, and watched the disaster unfold with the rest of us.
Now goes down, easily, as the worst signing in our history. It's not even close.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:08
by SurfaceAgentX2Zero
Todibo, Mav, Igor.
And Javier Margas.
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:02
by Mad Ferret
Tomas Repka
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 13:00
by Mr Kenzo
Gary BREEN
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 12:56
by David LE
Ron Eff" wrote: ↑06 Jan 2026, 12:50
He is as bad a centre half as Roberto was a keeper. Does that answer the question?
Not really tbh. Cheers
Re: Is Max Kilman the worst centre back in your memory - name worse?
Posted: 06 Jan 2026, 12:50
by Ron Eff
He is as bad a centre half as Roberto was a keeper. Does that answer the question?