"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 03 Dec 2024, 17:45
by southbankbornnbred
Far Cough UKunt" wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 15:03
Vikings are winning ugly but I guess that's all that counts, innit?
I'd take a win by bribery at this stage! The Jets' season must rank as one of the worst of all time, considering the expectations others had for the team (although, have to say, I always thought it would be a disappointment: never wanted Rodgers, never really rated Saleh as a HC and our o-line was put together on the back of a fag packet).
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 03 Dec 2024, 15:03
by Far Cough UKunt
Vikings are winning ugly but I guess that's all that counts, innit?
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 03 Dec 2024, 14:15
by Joe C
southbankbornnbred wrote: ↑03 Dec 2024, 14:11
Just four or five games to go in the regular season now. Looking like many of the same contenders again this year: Chiefs, Eagles, Lions, Bills, possibly the Ravens if they can get their act together on pass defense. Steelers, Chargers, Washington and Vikes looking to gatecrash the party.
Biggest disappointment (beyond the ever-present-in-that-category Jets) looks like San Francisco.
Good
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 03 Dec 2024, 14:11
by southbankbornnbred
Just four or five games to go in the regular season now. Looking like many of the same contenders again this year: Chiefs, Eagles, Lions, Bills, possibly the Ravens if they can get their act together on pass defense. Steelers, Chargers, Washington and Vikes looking to gatecrash the party.
Biggest disappointment (beyond the ever-present-in-that-category Jets) looks like San Francisco.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 01 Dec 2024, 21:59
by southbankbornnbred
Honestly, Joe, you couldn’t make it up.
The Jets entire coaching staff needs ripping up and starting from scratch.
Genuinely, I’m not sure if keep a single one of the coaching staff.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 01 Dec 2024, 21:56
by southbankbornnbred
That Al-Shaair hit on Lawrence was disgraceful, btw.
It was a late slide by Lawrence, and he should have gone down with his head much lower - to protect himself. But all the same: the defender knew exactly what he was doing. Head-to-head contact, plus two forearms, while the QB was that upright. And he looked straight at the ref after doing it: knew exactly what he’d done.
The Jets just find new, innovative ways to lose. Every week. Today was ridiculous. How many times did we have Seattle at “4th and…” and then give away STUPID penalties - like having a returner (and 12th man) on the field?!
Seriously, it’s a good job Yank sports fans are not like our (WHU) lot: we’d have instigated an intervention by now.
Yet another losing season now guaranteed. And this was, according to some, supposed to be our run at the play-offs. Yeah, right! It’s criminal.
We had seven (SEVEN) attempts at 4th & 1 in one drive and fucked them all up - yet still won! Yeah, you bad
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 01 Dec 2024, 21:48
by southbankbornnbred
Almost lost for words.
The Jets just find new, innovative ways to lose. Every week. Today was ridiculous. How many times did we have Seattle at “4th and…” and then give away STUPID penalties - like having a returner (and 12th man) on the field?!
Seriously, it’s a good job Yank sports fans are not like our (WHU) lot: we’d have instigated an intervention by now.
Yet another losing season now guaranteed. And this was, according to some, supposed to be our run at the play-offs. Yeah, right! It’s criminal.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 01 Dec 2024, 21:11
by Joe C
Thank fuck for that. An ugly win, but a win nonetheless
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 01 Dec 2024, 19:24
by zebthecat
That hit was horrible.
Even Vontaze Burfict would think twice about it.
To rub salt into.the wounds one of the Jags was ejected as well.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 01 Dec 2024, 19:11
by lowlife
Horrendous cheap shot on Lawrence just now. In the slide position and the guy launches shoulder and forearm first into his head. What a wanker.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 01 Dec 2024, 18:37
by Joe C
Be really good if we could stop making the Jets look great now
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 29 Nov 2024, 08:31
by Takashi Miike
no, you were right. its not been every year but we have played the cunts eleven times on thanksgiving since 1966
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 29 Nov 2024, 08:23
by Far Cough UKunt
I've just looked it up, it's the Cowboys and the Lions v practically any team. Don't know why I had in my mind that it was Cowboys and Redskins and I lived in America for twenty years so I should know.
Anyway, the Lions and the Chiefs look likely Superbowl winners based solely on current form.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 29 Nov 2024, 07:37
by Far Cough UKunt
I always thought in the past the Thanksgiving game was Cowboys and Redskins, for obvious reasons?
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 29 Nov 2024, 07:32
by RBshorty
Lions and Cowgirls have always been the Thanksgiving games. Going all the way back to the 50’s. Lions because they were a new franchise back then. And needed to strum up the interest. And the Cowboys because of the Texas viewing figures. Anyhow no surprise’s. And the Giants are still doing the business for that draft spot.Happy Holidays.!
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑28 Nov 2024, 09:10
the thing about The Diesel is the Jets had him playing fullback before he joined us (probably because of his size), but the man had a background in sprinting in college which made him so hard to tackle
Yeah, but the Jets never really used him as a blocking full-back. They used a brutal twin-backs system. He ran the ball - a lot - in tandem with Emerson Boozer (what a name!). I think they both ran for more than 150 yards each in one game. Riggins ate up
yards for the Jets in just four seasons, before sprinting off to Washington on a huge deal.
Because we’ve only really had three high-quality QBs in our history (Namath, O’Brien and pre-injury Pennington), “Jets Football” has always been about running the ball and battering opponents.
So we love a running back. We’d probably have taken Barkley at #2 in 2018, if we’d had the pick. He was arguably the best player coming out of college that year. I get what RB Shorty’s saying, but I think you’ve still got to have a good running back, or two, to keep defenses honest.
Jets even went to back-to-back championship games with a shit QB (Sanchez) and two iron-clad RBs: Jones and Greene. Next year, we picked up Tomlinson.
one of our best ever cornerbacks died recently, Pat Fischer, and I posted a video on this thread from years ago where some of his opponents paid tribute to him. during the footage you see a young Riggo (in Jets gear) getting tackled by Pat, as well as Pat also dealing with a massive lineman trying to run block . none of this sounds strange until you realise Pat was just 5ft 9 & 170 lbs. during the video, there's also footage of him trying to deal with 6ft 8 Harold Carmichael, and Pat describing how he planned to tackle the giant. It's a great clip and worth watching
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 28 Nov 2024, 20:43
by southbankbornnbred
As well as the tactical stuff around the passing game, the issue around RBs has become longevity. With players getting bigger and stronger, the wear and tear on RBs getting hit all of the time is phenomenal. So they don’t last as long in the league these days. Hence, their value has declined further.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 28 Nov 2024, 20:39
by southbankbornnbred
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑28 Nov 2024, 09:10
the thing about The Diesel is the Jets had him playing fullback before he joined us (probably because of his size), but the man had a background in sprinting in college which made him so hard to tackle
Yeah, but the Jets never really used him as a blocking full-back. They used a brutal twin-backs system. He ran the ball - a lot - in tandem with Emerson Boozer (what a name!). I think they both ran for more than 150 yards each in one game. Riggins ate up
yards for the Jets in just four seasons, before sprinting off to Washington on a huge deal.
Because we’ve only really had three high-quality QBs in our history (Namath, O’Brien and pre-injury Pennington), “Jets Football” has always been about running the ball and battering opponents.
So we love a running back. We’d probably have taken Barkley at #2 in 2018, if we’d had the pick. He was arguably the best player coming out of college that year. I get what RB Shorty’s saying, but I think you’ve still got to have a good running back, or two, to keep defenses honest.
Jets even went to back-to-back championship games with a shit QB (Sanchez) and two iron-clad RBs: Jones and Greene. Next year, we picked up Tomlinson.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 28 Nov 2024, 20:09
by Takashi Miike
gaffer, it's treated as a pooled league where teams get allocated a set amount for wages (goes up each year, this year about $225m), and they're all given a certain amount of the profits made by the NFL (I think this year $402m each), via tv companies/sponsors/etc. obviously some teams take the piss, and mis manage their finances and operate over the cap. these teams can be fined by the NFL, and lose draft picks depending on the severity of the figure. most just trade away a valuable asset/s to balance the books. individual sponsorship isn't really needed as the league is so cash rich
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 28 Nov 2024, 19:38
by Gaffer58
Why don’t any of the teams have sponsorship on their shirts, as the premiership, surely there’s additional millions available to the clubs?
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 28 Nov 2024, 09:51
by RBshorty
I apologise using the term “Luxury player.” You don’t build a great offence on a RB alone. Bill Walsh and Paul Brown did the most to get rid of that philosophy. Even run heavy offences finally get found out.(Looks over at the Ravens.) I absolutely adore Barry Sanders. And imagine if you had placed him in that Cowgirls side at the time.? But the game has moved on so much now. And the QB’s and variations on the West Coast Offence rule the roost. That taking a RB 2nd overall in the draft. Is a luxury at best. Lunacy.(Which it was.) At worse. And a contributing factor to where the Giants find themselves.
. none of this sounds strange until you realise Pat was just 5ft 9 & 170 lbs. during the video, there's also footage of him trying to deal with 6ft 8 Harold Carmichael, and Pat describing how he planned to tackle the giant. It's a great clip and worth watching