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Champions league here we come ! ?üòâ

funny how no-one had a problem that west ham spoke to Moyes weeks before he took over from Pellegrini. or with Glasner & Palace doing a deal while Woy was on his death bed.

Old tarmac reckons the same. https://www.givemesport.com/sneaky-weasel-richard-keys-blasts-tim-steidten/ (this report did make me laugh)

…..Moyes would never walk so he says anything to keep his job…..this bloke has proven he doesn’t have to…..

"West Ham United agree terms with Julen Lopetegui over succeeding David Moyes By David Ornstein May 6, 2024 178 West Ham United have agreed terms with Julen Lopetegui to succeed David Moyes as manager. A deal is yet to be signed, but Lopetegui has emerged as the club’s top managerial choice and West Ham are close to landing him. West Ham’s technical director Tim Steidten was tasked with leading the recruitment process in case the club needed to make a managerial change and terms were discussed with multiple candidates. That reads to me like Steidten is driving this appointment as mnuch as anyone."

"I'm not saying I wont give him a chance. But he's not our manager yet (although a few are defending him as though he already is). I think the criticism/concern is fair. I also remember reading Moyes took inspiration from Red Bull, only to do the exact opposite of what they do!"

Good to know what Steiden wanted. What else has been happening behind the scenes?

The bloke is Spanish and managed at their highest levels and done pretty well in an era where they keep churning out 'football people'. He's taken inspiration from working with Johan Cruyff who as a player implemented total football. I'll give a chance Trunds on this basis.....of being a 'football person'

"""If that is the case then I expect Stiedten to walk instead Trunds."" It wouldn't surprise me. I really wanted the football people to win here and have their choice in manager. It does appear as though Salthouse and Sullivan have got their way though."

If that is the case then I expect Stiedten to walk instead Trunds. Whatever reason he left Wolves he basically wanted things put in place to be judged on football matters if they are not in place he walks.....I....as in me alone...like this about him....if his stipulations are in place and the types of player he want are got in then he is willing to fall on his sword if it goes tits up......but the fact he wants it to be for football reasons makes me like him already......

"Yeah, you two are the only ones to have spotted it. Thanks for informing everyone else what might happen. Let's unlock the Lopetegui out thread."

"Glad I'm not the only one to spot that elephant in the room, nychammer."

He left Wolves because of 'Broken Promises' how on earth has he ended up working for the poster child of 'Broken Promises' - has be bought the 'Next Level' Hype? This may get interesting!

https://www.instagram.com/willsalthouse/ There's a gallery for our shortlist of players for next season. No wonder Cresswell is pictured there and was linked to Lopetegui last season.

"We'll have what players Salthouse tells Sullivan to buy for Lopetegui, who he's also bringing to the club."

"That's because Wolves fans backed the owners, at West Ham we already know what Sullivan is like and he can't go down the route he has in the past. If Sullivan hasn't supplied this manager with the playing staff he wants in place.....then we are fucked anyways with the squad we currently have...."

"my two wishes for lopetegui: 1) make it all work out and deliver the football ambrosia we all crave or failing that 2) make sure that if it all goes tits up, it's during a brief window that david moyes is employed at another club."

"I don't remember it having much effect on the owners of Wolves when he did it there. I'm not sure I'd learn anything I didn't already know about Sullivan if Lopetegui did leave just days before the season starts. It'll be shit for the club if we're having to look around for a a manager days before the season starts, though."

"To me it is Trunds, as this is a manager who clearly wants financial backing if the club is serious about stepping it up. Sullivan has always got the crowd to just turn on the manger in the past, and the media just let him get away with it. I want club owners to be exposed and held accountable more for their decisions as these clubs mean a lot more and are in some cases a big part of their community to just have them be some ego's toy........"

"""I personally like the fact he has shown he will easily call out Sullivans antics if need be and in the best way to expose him......"" Is that a good thing? I'm not sure Sullivan needs exposing to anything we don't already know. And there's always the threat of Lopetegu leaving days before the season starts again. That isn't a good thing."

Good / balanced assessment at this juncture Side. Lets hope we are surprised ( pleasantly of course ) :-)

Because we are now having to rebuild a squad this was never going to be a managerial appointment we could all agree on. Until we see the type of players he or Steitden gets in (after their chats) or if they could do a 'Winston Reid' type transformation on some of our current defenders then we have to just wait and see. The only thing I'd say about this bloke is he's managed at all levels at the top of the chain and been deemed competent in most of those jobs or enough of them to say he must be able to do something with West Ham if he is backed in the transfer market. I personally like the fact he has shown he will easily call out Sullivans antics if need be and in the best way to expose him......

Because we are now having to rebuild a squad this was never going to be a managerial appointment we could all agree on. Until we see the type of players he or Steitden gets in (after their chats) or if they could do a 'Winston Reid' type transformation on some of our current defenders then we have to just wait and see. The only thing I'd say about this bloke is he's managed at all levels at the top of the chain and been deemed competent in most of those jobs or enough of them to say he must be able to do something with West Ham if he is backed in the transfer market. I personally like the fact he has shown he will easily call out Sullivans antics if need be and in the best way to expose him......

"We’re all making educated ( and uneducated :-) ) guesses about the future. Looking at stats fir his past clubs etc. im another who did not get excited but in truth does anyone have a clue in how successful or unsuccessful this Loptegui bloke will be? We dont know all the circumstances in play at Seville, Porto, Spain, Madrid. Yes some things are known but still not enough imo to be able to predict how things will go. Steidten’s influence and how he works with new and existing players etc. unless someone has been stalking him for the last 10-20 years , thet are working with an incomplete data set. The soft skills like managing the psychological side of different players and relationships etc are often critical. Like I say, we will only know if this is a good or bad or indifferent appoinment after at least half a season and sometimes longer. For now Im just hoping his early appointment will give us a headstart on a huge turjiver and transfer effort with most business completed by start of pre season. We can make a prediction about him which will be speculative at best but probably just “a shot in the dark” ( cue for a song ) . Danger with nailing the colours early is that for the weak minded, insecure types they are not willing to be wrong, let alone being assured or confident enough to admit it. Hence we are now prrhaps seeing the battle lines for the next 3 years of “oneupmanship” being drawn by those who “need” to elevate themselves above other posters. And often then resorting to insults and name calling to try and belittle others if they are really insecure. I didnt want him particularly based on little knowledge but willwait and see now. If he’s a success in will be great and in spite of the likes of me :-)"

"You're nuts if you think I'm playing any game here, and if you think I'm desperate for him to be shit, all because I'm not buying into him as much as you."

"Your hero? Excited? That's just being disengenous. Saying that, I said you were giving off the impression you want it to go tits up. I should've said you're absolutely desperate for him to be shit, just to play the game and all that."