"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 21 Nov 2024, 15:46
by Takashi Miike
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 18:31
by southbankbornnbred
FWIW, Joe Douglas wasn't the worst GM around and neither was he a good GM. Bang average. We've had worse.
With the exception of the now-infamous Zach Wilson pick, he drafted reasonably well. People keep saying there is talent on the roster. Well, that was the GM's job.
But people keep saying that talent is woefully coached. And they're also saying that the skills position talent is fine - but asking where are the hard mo-fos who dominate in the trenches? And that failure is on the GM, too.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 18:26
by southbankbornnbred
The Jets have just fired GM Joe Douglas, btw.
There'll be nobody left in the building soon! Maybe Rodgers is next.
Maybe this is an elaborate experiment, Belgium-style, without any form of leadership?! It can't be any worse than what we had.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 17:48
by southbankbornnbred
The field goal fumble against Seattle is a great Romo/Dallas moment.
Don't get me wrong: while I thought he did well for an undrafted free agent, I still wanted Dallas to lose every game they played with him as QB. It's the Jerry Jones factor!
In fact, when Jones later threw that six-year $100m contract at Romo, I felt Jones' mentalism had reached its zenith. Then along came Dak Prescott.
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑19 Nov 2024, 14:38
For me he was lauded far far beyond his actual abilities purely because of the team he played for and that he almost always had a stacked offense to work with- particularly a top top O line. No way was he worth the hype. Looks like s stupid grinning shaved monkey as well. He's only got his commentating gig because of who he played for and he cannot help shilling for them every single time. It is true to say that he did a better job than a number of joke players they had in the role prior to him.
Dak Precott is exactly the same. Pretty much bang average but ridiculously talked up because he's a cowboy.
This is my fondest memory of Tony Romo.
Scorch - I’ve said this before on this very thread. That was my first ever NFL game live and I was surrounded by all the Cowboys fans I worked with that we’d flown up with, confirmed me as a Seahawk for life. Bought my, now framed, Walter Jones shirt on the way out
That, sir is a wonderful story! I love it.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 15:17
by Joe C
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑19 Nov 2024, 14:38
For me he was lauded far far beyond his actual abilities purely because of the team he played for and that he almost always had a stacked offense to work with- particularly a top top O line. No way was he worth the hype. Looks like s stupid grinning shaved monkey as well. He's only got his commentating gig because of who he played for and he cannot help shilling for them every single time. It is true to say that he did a better job than a number of joke players they had in the role prior to him.
Dak Precott is exactly the same. Pretty much bang average but ridiculously talked up because he's a cowboy.
This is my fondest memory of Tony Romo.
Scorch - I’ve said this before on this very thread. That was my first ever NFL game live and I was surrounded by all the Cowboys fans I worked with that we’d flown up with, confirmed me as a Seahawk for life. Bought my, now framed, Walter Jones shirt on the way out
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 14:38
by El Scorchio
For me he was lauded far far beyond his actual abilities purely because of the team he played for and that he almost always had a stacked offense to work with- particularly a top top O line. No way was he worth the hype. Looks like s stupid grinning shaved monkey as well. He's only got his commentating gig because of who he played for and he cannot help shilling for them every single time. It is true to say that he did a better job than a number of joke players they had in the role prior to him.
Dak Precott is exactly the same. Pretty much bang average but ridiculously talked up because he's a cowboy.
This is my fondest memory of Tony Romo.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 14:09
by southbankbornnbred
I had to whisper it, but I liked Romo purely as a QB.
It was based entirely on the fact that he was an undrafted free agent who had a long and relatively impressive NFL career. Which, let's face it, is quite unusual for a QB these days.
I enjoyed it all the more because the Girls had tried in vain to spend big money on QBs and needless draft picks after Aikman (Bledsoe, Carter, Hutchison, Henson, Testaverde etc) - and the only relatively reliable guy they found was an undrafted bloke who had the luxury of spending a couple of years on the sidelines, in obscurity, learning the playbook etc. In that respect, he's the antithesis of a Jerry Jones player.
Don't get me wrong, he's turned into an enormous jock. And he was never a top-notch QB - always falling short when it mattered. I just liked the fact that Jones tried and failed to buy in another Aikman repeatedly (usually by going after QBs more suited to baseball), and then got shown how to do it by some untried bloke.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 13:55
by southbankbornnbred
El Scorchio" wrote: ↑19 Nov 2024, 13:25
Jerry Jones' ego is the problem for them and the blessing for everyone else. Bloke wants the be the centre of attention all the time- weekly appearances on the radio station he owns etc. His ego couldn't handle Jimmy Johnson being the hero and he's never recovered from that act of hubris.
I love that they believe their own hype year after year and it always ends in failure.
No moment sweeter than in 2008 when out of arrogance he left the 2 NFC championship game tickets in each of his players lockers prior to the game before, when they thought they were a cert to beat the Giants at home in the divisional round. He admitted he cried after the game.
Also TO crying in his press conference afterwards when before the game he'd said 'get your popcorn ready', and Wade Phillips not even learning his lesson by saying in the following offseason 'get your ring fingers ready' before they missed the playoffs.
They are the gift that keeps on giving.
Oh and Tony Romo was a cսnt and is still a fucking nauseating homer cսnt on commentary
All this and more.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 13:25
by El Scorchio
Jerry Jones' ego is the problem for them and the blessing for everyone else. Bloke wants the be the centre of attention all the time- weekly appearances on the radio station he owns etc. His ego couldn't handle Jimmy Johnson being the hero and he's never recovered from that act of hubris.
I love that they believe their own hype year after year and it always ends in failure.
No moment sweeter than in 2008 when out of arrogance he left the 2 NFC championship game tickets in each of his players lockers prior to the game before, when they thought they were a cert to beat the Giants at home in the divisional round. He admitted he cried after the game.
Also TO crying in his press conference afterwards when before the game he'd said 'get your popcorn ready', and Wade Phillips not even learning his lesson by saying in the following offseason 'get your ring fingers ready' before they missed the playoffs.
They are the gift that keeps on giving.
Oh and Tony Romo was a cսnt and is still a fucking nauseating homer cսnt on commentary
The guy is the most toxic owner in the NFL. Not the worst - that's now the reserve of our genuinely clueless lot - but certainly the most toxic.
Browns fans will tell you they have both. Admittedly you need to find one
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 11:30
by Takashi Miike
that recent story about Ceedee Lamb not being able to see the ball because of the stadium design letting in light, I noticed that years ago. It's a circus
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 11:28
by RBshorty
Everybody loves Jones. The owners do. Because he show them how too fleece the fanbase for as much as possible. The media love him. Because he guaranteed to get eyes on screen's. And his own fans love him because it's all Razzle, Dazzle. Long may he rein.!
Go G Men.!
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 11:20
by Far Cough UKunt
I really liked Tom Landry when he was there, proper old school coach, with a titfer.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 10:46
by southbankbornnbred
Takashi Miike" wrote: ↑19 Nov 2024, 10:26
his son or daughter takes over if and when he goes, so nothing changes for a long time yet. I just don't see any other league GM/Owner behaving this way, constantly wanting to be the centre of attention, then handing over $60m a year to that QB
Haha! The Prescott contract was astonishing for a QB who is so bang-average.
That's what I love about the Girls under Jones: they massively overspend on underachievers. Keeps them down!
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 10:26
by Takashi Miike
his son or daughter takes over if and when he goes, so nothing changes for a long time yet. I just don't see any other league GM/Owner behaving this way, constantly wanting to be the centre of attention, then handing over $60m a year to that QB
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 10:18
by southbankbornnbred
This is the guy who, through pure unadulterated ego and nothing else, got rid of an excellent head coach, Jimmy Johnson, who'd turned the Cowboys from perennial 1980s failures into a dominant force.
We don't want that again.
Let Jones keep going. I'm going to write to him to say how great he is...and that I hope he finds the fountain of youth...
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 10:12
by southbankbornnbred
I genuinely don't want Jerry Jones to stop doing what he does.
The guy is the most toxic owner in the NFL. Not the worst - that's now the reserve of our genuinely clueless lot - but certainly the most toxic.
Just let him keep over-interfering: it ensures the 'Girls remain woeful!
"Keep going, Jerry: you're doing great..."
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 10:06
by Takashi Miike
the strangest thing is Jones still doing post game interviews in the corridor, it's bizarre how someone with so much wealth just can't get out of the way and let more knowledgeable people do the job (eh, Sullivan?)
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 09:23
by El Scorchio
zebthecat wrote: ↑19 Nov 2024, 08:41
The Cowboys - Oh deary me.
Wonderful stuff. LOVE seeing them lose. It never gets tired. Every season they are bigged up to win it all as if they have any sort of pedigree- truly the Man U or spurs of the NFL.
I’m glad no one has to pretend to like that complete cսnt franchise now that guys brother isn’t coaching for them any more.
Yeah but you’ve won a Super Bowl even if it was decades ago, and none of them have.
You’re bad but you’re not the worst team in the league.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 19 Nov 2024, 08:41
by zebthecat
The Cowboys - Oh deary me.
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 18 Nov 2024, 23:25
by southbankbornnbred
So, the Jets were founded in 1959 and have had 14 seasons in which they qualified for the playoffs (and they have played 25 playoff games). The Jaguars, a much younger franchise founded in 1995, have been to the playoffs 8 times (and played 16 playoff games).
On average, the Jaguars get to the playoffs every 3.75 seasons.
The Jets get to the playoffs every 4.64 seasons.
That's how shit we have become. And the stats have been skewed even more recently, because we haven't been to the playoffs for 14 years!
Thankfully, Detroit were abysmal for a very long time. They're 90 years old - one of the oldest franchises - and have had just 19 playoff years. So they're even worse than the Jets and get to the playoffs every 4.74 years. Although that will change when they qualify for the playoffs this year. The Jets' record will be worse at that point.
I would argue (probably with bias) that having a Super Bowl, even if it was the third one, puts the Jets on slightly better footing that say the Jaguars, who have never been to one.
Consider that your lot won a championshiop since the Toronto Maple Leafs did. (bwahahaha - inside Western Canada joke).
All true, IoC.
Although, embarrassingly, the Jets are almost 40 years older than the Jaguars - so we've had a LOT longer to win stuff (and mostly failed miserably). We do have Broadway Joe's SB to show for it, though, and nobody can take it away from us!
Re: NFL (since 2016)
Posted: 18 Nov 2024, 20:06
by RBshorty
Bullocks to that load of old shit. The Giants finally bench Jones. Who needs the Playoffs and the Super Bowl. It’s the Combine and Draft that matter.!
