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Dispatches tonight could be about him so he has jumped in first dismissing claims and rumours and saying anything he did in past was consensual. No doubt it will be said that this is The Matrix coming after him due to his opposition to mainstream media.

"Jaan, Yeah, maybe I should have stuck to that, but if I’m being picked up on something and someone is saying I’m talking shit, I’m going to respond. You don’t seem to be reading what I’m posting. I’m not mentioning Musk, Tate, Alex Jones etc to provide support that Brand is a rapist. Innocent til proven guilty. I’m using those people to support that he is a part of the right wing. Which he is, no matter how many times he tells you he likes Bernie Sanders. As for Biden, you keep going back to that and I don’t know why. But again, I’ll respond. So everything Hunter did was way before Trump, yet he’s being investigated now? And that’s not fishy? Righto. Again, if he or anyone in the Biden family is proven to have done something wrong, you won’t see me saying that they didn’t. We believe in the law, right? Lock her up and all that. But no. We only believe in the law until it applies to MAGA weirdos. Suddenly, then the law is corrupt and unjust. Despite multiple accusations, then charges, then indictments, then being a court finding you guilty of rape, and then and then… Anyway, as for Brand Who knows if he raped anyone. You’d think he could get any girl he wanted. But then if it comes easy, people want what they can’t have. It will be interesting to see if the domino falls and more people come out: Also, going back to most of my posts, If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck. If you promote right wing conspiracy theories and right wing poster boys such Andrew Tate, Tucker Carlson, and Alex Jones are defending you of rape, you’re a right winger."

Is Hunter Biden white?

As for the indictments against Hunter - how many middle class white men you think get indicted for technical gun law violations where there is no aggravating circumstances like a more serious crime committed with the weapon involved?

"Slops - not sure why you're trying to bring hunter Biden in here at all, but the trouble with it is, despite having Hunter Biden's communications, despite having gone through his tax receipts, despite having accounts of phone calls, there is zero, and I mean ZERO EVIDENCE, of any wrongdoing on the part of Joe Biden. Yes you have anecdotal evidence or Hunter Biden trying to leverage his father's position to get business deals, but no evidence, none, of Joe Biden's involvement. In fact everything that's come out so far suggests the opposite - like the calls - where no business deals were ever talked about and they chatted about the weather. The only thing you can criticize Joe for is perhaps remaining too close to his son - which given his loss of two other children is probably understandable. The GOP hope is to blow as much smoke that mugs like you fall for it. Seems to be working doesn't it. As for the left and right thing - it's mainly the right wing audience that falls for this stuff - as is demonstrated by the nonsense twats like you post on here, but there are some on the left that work the anti-establishment stuff too. People like Rogen and Brand like to say they supported Bernie mainly to try to establish their credentials as ""independent thinkers"" - but then you get to their actual views and that's at the heart of modern populism which is pretty much all right wing."

For the record Brand has not been accused by any government official of any crime. Until he is you’re being salacious.

For the record Brand has not been accused by any government official of any crime. Until he is you’re being salacious.

"deanjcrawford 11:23 Mon Sep 18 'I initially said the police will decide if he’s guilty or not.' Should have just stuck at that. 'As for Hunter Biden, yes, I do think it’s a witch hunt' Hunter Biden's alleged crimes were way before Trump got indicted. His laptop was long held by the FBI before the election. Which was suppressed by the MSM and on SM, and had former intelligence agents stating it was Russian disinformation. Not sure what the Police have on Brand? But somehow Elon Musk, Andrew Tate and Alex Jones support is worth considering for you."

"The thing that broke the dam on this stuff was the Saville died and so then couldn't sue for defamation. Yes there were whispers, but were they more than that? It's an easy thing to slag the BBC off for, but it was his case that made everyone more aware of this kind of crap and led directly to Rolf Harris getting convicted. We seem to want to both criticize the media, which covers too much as a term anyway, for both failing to do enough with Saville and Rolf Harris, and now not doing enough with Brand. If there were rumors of Brand crossing the line and you get a specific allegation against him, do they ignore it? I haven't seen dispatches, but wasn't the rape allegation supposed to have taken place in LA? So it wouldn't be something for the Met to investigate anyway. They seem to have taken time, four years, to stand these allegations up and the rape one in particular with the texts would see to have something to it. But then we can't decide if we hate the media more for exposing it than we do him for apparently doing it?"

"Capitol Man 11:45 Mon Sep 18 Re: Russell Brand So only Puritanical media outlets can cover this sort of thing? I take your point, but there's always something slightly unedifying about these things. C4 running an expose about someone who they knew was poorly behaved but did nothing about... everyone at ITV knowing about schofield for years and doing nothing... countless people at the BBC knowing about Savile and then doing a panorama program about it... its a little off"

"Chim Loving your work here but you are missing one point. Everybody is trying to earn a living. Alt media offers people like Brand a great opportunity. He no longer has corporate cunts between him and his fans. To be successful in a corporate world you need the blessing from above. That obviously makes them all guilty by association but its the way of corporate life. These social media channels offer direct access to fans. Mainstream media hate this. OR feed off it. So here, they’re feeding off him and it. So. Brand is earning a living from his talents as directly to fans as you can. All corporate employees have to adhere to the monster that is the corporate money system. Those employees are bitter as fuck. I know a few. Fucking incensed they are less important and less influential. They have to earn off the back of your Brands by taking them down. How else will they do it? Bigging up wats and viruses?"

"It’s like Fleetwood Mac - I don’t like them, but I know all of their greatest hits. Yes, whenever Russell Brand popped up, I took an interest. Why? Because even though I wasn’t his biggest fan, I liked the fact that he was working class, from Essex, and a West Ham fan so I didn’t begrudge him his success. But taking the claret and blue specs off, over the last few years, I don’t like 99% of what I see from him."

"So only Puritanical media outlets can cover this sort of thing? I'm not sure the dispatches team have to be held to account for everything else that's ever appeared on Channel 4. The Murdoch rags are something else, but the Times wasn't the same editorial team as the Sun and their waiting for Sam Fox to reach 16 stuff. The question about Brand is that none of this is about him putting it about, it's whether any of that crossed a line. If the rape allegation is true then it clearly did."

"""The whole thing fucking stinks and I am amazed even more people can't see past his haircut and flouncing ways."" There's one woman (that we know of) that went to a rape clinic the following day, and has shared the text messages he sent her begging for forgiveness. To be clear, trial by media is never right, and the timing is at best suspect, but there's enough there to warrant investigation."

"You seem to know more about his 'content' than anyone I've ever known, dean. Seems like his audience goes beyond outraged right wingers"

Lee Trundle 11:16 Mon Sep 18 Abso-fucking-lutely

"I think some of you (for a fucking change) are getting too mixed up in this stupid 'is he left wing or is he right' when he's neither of them. I think of him as an anarchist, saying what he thinks is right and unfortunately blas?© about his Facebook trial. If you have had a problem with RB go to the police, not Channel 4 or The Times. Desperate women who felt they were important for 5 minutes aren't really going to be the most reliable witnesses when they see a chance to launch themselves into the limelight. The whole thing fucking stinks and I am amazed even more people can't see past his haircut and flouncing ways. Some people would make great concentration camp guards."

"Eerie, I’m not going back through YouTube or going to search again for every specific line he has ever said because that isn’t my point. My point is his headlines are right wing talking points. He could go on to say he loves Biden in the video, but he gets the click because that’s the grift. You make more money from outraged right wingers then the looney left. He was recently on The Critical Drinkers film podcast. A conservative critic that calls everything woke and how women in films are shit. It’s Brand trying to expand and reach even more of the right. Chim, I watched the video, and Brand still panders to the right. I’m not changing my position on that. Trundle, The link you posted says that he DID ask why weren’t vaccines and lockdown being considered as a cause of heart attacks. The old “I’m just asking questions” technique. The review section on that link even says that his video “aimed to implicitly suggest the heart attacked were due to covid 19 vaccination.” Jaan, I initially said the police will decide if he’s guilty or not. The point you are all arguing with me is if he is right wing or not. I’ve not said his defenders are an admission of guilt, I have said that they are also all right wingers. Or ultra right wing in the instance of Alex Jones. As for Hunter Biden, yes, I do think it’s a witch hunt. If Trump wasn’t impeached, twice, or indicted, I don’t think MAGA republicans would be going after him. But if he’s guilty, lock him up. That’s how the law is supposed to work, right?"

onsideman 11:10 Mon Sep 18 Don't forget Channel 4's The Word and their I'd do anything to be in TV section. I remember once they made a bloke eat a sandwich of pubes just to get on TV.

"Any more come out the woodwork with accusations against Brand yet? While we're on about Hunter Biden though, can we also point out that a court found trump to be a rapist."

There was no word salad about Hunter Biden. He is the son of a current president that gained positions in foreign companies through his father when VP. He has more than a wealth of scandal and cannection to politics than Brand. Yet you keep pretending like that is some right wing conspiracy witch hunt? Sloppy as ever slops.

"'I'm sure many of his actions are inexcusable, but trial by media never sits well. Police and courts involved then fine, but news international (who it should be remembered had to fold News Of The World due to hacking Millie Dowlers voicemails) and Channel 4 who brought us Big Brother and Naked fucking Attraction are never going to be high on my list of paragons of virtue"

"deanjcrawford 10:59 Mon Sep 18 'When your most vocal defenders after you’ve been accused of rape, are Andrew Tate, Alex Jones, Elon Musk, Ian Miles Cheong, Tucker Carlson, and a host of GB News, I think you can put your left wing membership on hold.' So as I said. He's not left wing enough and politics ultimately does matter to you as you keep bringing it up. I've no idea who has been most vocal in defending him nor do I think that would mean an admission of guilt either. There was no word salad about Hunter Biden. He is the son of a current president that gained positions in foreign companies through his father when VP. He has more than a wealth of scandal and cannection to politics than Brand. Yet you keep pretending like that is some right wing conspiracy witch hunt?"

"I think you could describe most of this stuff as the power an influence of BIG Government and BIG corporate/ scientific influence, generally in cahoots for power, money and influence gain. Social media allow certain people with charisma and a brain to not be whores to either of the above. Not to say they are not whores to an alternative, obvs."

"""he also claimed the vaccine is causing a rise in heart attack"" No he didn't. He actually ""steered clear of explicitly claiming that COVID-19 vaccines are responsible for the rise in heart attacks"". https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/scientific-evidence-shows-covid19-vaccines-dont-increase-risk-heart-attacks-russell-brand/ You, yourself, are a conspiracy theorist, deanjcrawford."

"Jaan, What are you on about, son? You don’t think he’s right wing. I think he is. I’d even be willing to concede that maybe Brand doesn’t call himself right wing, but you’re an idiot if you think he isn’t onto a grift where he makes money by pandering to the right. When your most vocal defenders after you’ve been accused of rape, are Andrew Tate, Alex Jones, Elon Musk, Ian Miles Cheong, Tucker Carlson, and a host of GB News, I think you can put your left wing membership on hold. As for that word salad about Biden…again, why the obsession with a private citizen? It’s a hit job by the right to get Biden back for Trump. If he’s guilty, he’ll go to jail. If Biden is guilty of anything, he’ll go to jail. I’m not an idiot that thinks “because he’s on my side he should be devoid of consequence.” Unlike the right who just stick their head in the sand and blindly defend and repeat whatever their leader says. It’s the same reason Brand has so much support online."