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Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 11:28
by stubbo
https://www.whufc.com/news/graham-potte ... head-coach

​​​​​​In the past he's favoured a 3-4-3 formation...hard to see how we can do that currently with only 3 senior CBs, one of whom is injured. He's also played wingers (Solly March as an example) in the wing back roles.

Typically when a 3-4-3 gets announced on a match day the manager is immediately described as being too negative, too cautious etc. I guess it depends on the composition of the 4.

He's given young players chances...hopefully that continues at West Ham.

Welcome Graham.
 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 18:20
by Jasnik
Are the bookies open? SWT. 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 18:13
by stubbo-admin
Press Conference scheduled for 9am tomorrow morning.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 18:11
by Jean-Luc Paul Goddard
That's not stats, that's League standings. 
Of course league position is a statistic. Probably the most important one, although you shouldn't make too much of it when talking about someone in charge for only some of the season. Tuchel may have left them in 6th place, but they had a piss easy start to the season in those first 6 league games he was in charge of and yet somehow lost to Southampton and Leeds (who finished bottom 2). As I said, there's a reason Tuchel was sacked, and they definitely weren't riding on a high like you're making out.
 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:59
by XKhammer
Takashi Miike" wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:24
XKhammer wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:22 Be careful what you wish for lol 😆 
here he is, Moyes biggest fan and cambodia's most treasured tourist
 
 
Fishing is one of my favourite pastimes and occasionally l get a bite off trappy trout 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:46
by Massive Attack
Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:41

That's some fucking good spin that, that even Shane Warne would have been proud of. 😂

Chelsea were in good nick before Potter arrived having finished the previous season in 3rd, as well as winning the Champions League, Tuchel was sacked leaving Chelsea in 6th, he left them in 11th and the following seasons they have finished in 6th now currently 4th with much of the same Billion Pound Squad. 
 
Well, that's the thing with stats - you can look at them in multiple ways. You've chosen to look at it very simplistically, completely ignoring what happened in the months before (there's a reason Tuchel was sacked mid-season you know) and what happened in the months after.

The reality is that they had 22 months of poor/mediocre results in the league and Potter was there for 7 months in the middle of that.
That's not stats, that's League standings. 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:41
by Mr Anon
THUNDERCLINT wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 16:05 Should have gone for Fonseca. Hope nonce beard realises he's just whored himself until Sullivan can get Alegri in the summer.
 
 
living up to your name

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:41
by Jean-Luc Paul Goddard

That's some fucking good spin that, that even Shane Warne would have been proud of. 😂

Chelsea were in good nick before Potter arrived having finished the previous season in 3rd, as well as winning the Champions League, Tuchel was sacked leaving Chelsea in 6th, he left them in 11th and the following seasons they have finished in 6th now currently 4th with much of the same Billion Pound Squad. 
 
 
Well, that's the thing with stats - you can look at them in multiple ways. You've chosen to look at it very simplistically, completely ignoring what happened in the months before (there's a reason Tuchel was sacked mid-season you know) and what happened in the months after.

The reality is that they had 22 months of poor/mediocre results in the league and Potter was there for 7 months in the middle of that.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:32
by Metroplex
I couldn't give a toss about his tenure at Chelsea, to be honest, it's a farce club when it comes to its endless manager merry-go-round.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:31
by Massive Attack
Jean-Luc Paul Goddard" wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:24
nychammer wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:00 Question i’d have of him is what went so wrong for him at Chelsea ? 
 
Haven't seen the video, but if you look at what happened to the club before and after, the results don't look as bad as if you view it in isolation.

Tuchel had won 7 of his last 16 league games in charge, playing an awful brand of football. Potter came in and didn't do any better, although did win 5 of 6 Champions League games, which included 4 games vs Milan and Dortmund.

Things then got massively worse after he was sacked and Lampard came in (one win in their last 10 games). The following season under Pochettini, despite having a full pre-season in charge and not having any European football to contend with, it took them until mid Feb to reach the heady heights of 9th place and start regularly winning games.

Basically he had the misfortune to join a badly run club that didn't do their managers any favours. Unlike...oh.
That's some fucking good spin that even Shane Warne would have been proud of. 😂

Chelsea were in good nick before Potter arrived having finished the previous season in 3rd, as well as winning the Champions League the season before that under Tuchel who was then sacked at Chelsea after leaving them in 6th. Potter then left them in 11th and the following seasons since that they have finished in 6th and now currently 4th with much of the same Billion Pound Squad. 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:24
by Takashi Miike
XKhammer wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:22 Be careful what you wish for lol 😆 
here he is, Moyes biggest fan and cambodia's most treasured tourist

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:24
by Jean-Luc Paul Goddard
nychammer wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:00 Question i’d have of him is what went so wrong for him at Chelsea ? 
 
Haven't seen the video, but if you look at what happened to the club before and after, the results don't look as bad as if you view it in isolation.

Tuchel had won 7 of his last 16 league games in charge, playing an awful brand of football. Potter came in and didn't do any better, although did win 5 of 6 Champions League games, which included 4 games vs Milan and Dortmund.

Things then got massively worse after he was sacked and Lampard came in (one win in their last 10 games). The following season under Pochettini, despite having a full pre-season in charge and not having any European football to contend with, it took them until mid Feb to reach the heady heights of 9th place and start regularly winning games.

Basically he had the misfortune to join a badly run club that didn't do their managers any favours. Unlike...oh.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:22
by XKhammer
Be careful what you wish for lol 😆 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:16
by Jasnik
Also even now I could not see what loppy was trying to do. So that was my biggest problem. 
 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:14
by Jasnik
Massive Attack" wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:12
nychammer wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 16:49 We really do have to give him time, we’ve made our bed here so no more knee jerk calls for his head when we aren’t beating all comers straight away. There is no quick fix personnel wise but he can tweak how we play and get more of a tune out of this lot. Hopefully he’s sat with Steidten and reached an understanding on how players will be signed. Timing is good and we can get one or two  useful additions still in Jan but oh do we drag things out when it comes to managerial it’s and outs. 
How does that work when the last manager wasn't afforded the same luxury? I agree by the way, any manager needs plenty of time to sort all our shit out and no not just half a season either, be it Potter or anyone else.
Think it should be if we see things going in the right direction... unlike with Loppy. 
If we see things are improving then you give the manager more time, even if the results are not. 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:12
by Massive Attack
nychammer wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 16:49 We really do have to give him time, we’ve made our bed here so no more knee jerk calls for his head when we aren’t beating all comers straight away. There is no quick fix personnel wise but he can tweak how we play and get more of a tune out of this lot. Hopefully he’s sat with Steidten and reached an understanding on how players will be signed. Timing is good and we can get one or two  useful additions still in Jan but oh do we drag things out when it comes to managerial it’s and outs. 
How does that work when the last manager wasn't afforded the same luxury? I agree by the way, any manager needs plenty of time to sort all our shit out and no not after just half a season either, be it Potter or anyone else.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:05
by Ladysmith
nychammer wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:00 Question i’d have of him is what went so wrong for him at Chelsea ? 
He was generally a substandard manager

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:03
by Takashi Miike
nychammer wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 17:00 Question i’d have of him is what went so wrong for him at Chelsea ? 
Watch the video I posted, he goes in to detail about what happened

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 17:00
by nychammer
Question i’d have of him is what went so wrong for him at Chelsea ? 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 16:55
by goose
Will be interesting to see how long it takes him to have a visible impact on the team.

From what I remember of his Brighton team, they were hard to play against because they counter press as soon as they lose the ball. I wanna see a west ham team that give everything and show some positive approach no matter who they play against.

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 16:54
by stubbo
Wants to bring in a recruitment analyst he worked with at Brighton and Chelsea....Kyle Macaulay....apparently, who is still currently at Chelsea.

Interesting to see what that does for Steidten, who is on the ropes anyway.

Apparently Ashworth doesn't do player identification but build Club supporting infrastructure...can't see that happening while Sullivan is alive and in post.

 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 16:53
by Texas Iron
Why didn’t they hire him last summer…???

Sullivan skunked millions on Lopetegui…
 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 16:51
by nychammer
twoleftfeet wrote: 08 Jan 2025, 16:46 I’m going to give him until 5 minutes after his first training session before I cսnt him off and call for his head. 
Knowing Sullivan he’s signed Matthew Corbett by mistaken identity and We’ll have sooty snd sweep doing interviews. 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 16:49
by nychammer
We really do have to give him time, we’ve made our bed here so no more knee jerk calls for his head when we aren’t beating all comers straight away. There is no quick fix personnel wise but he can tweak how we play and get more of a tune out of this lot. Hopefully he’s sat with Steidten and reached an understanding on how players will be signed. Timing is good and we can get one or two  useful additions still in Jan but oh do we drag things out when it comes to managerial it’s and outs. 

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 16:49
by Come On You Irons
Potter has a Premier League win percentage of 28.87% and a points per game ratio of 1.27 from 142 games in charge of Brighton and Chelsea. Not great, is it!

Re: Graham Potter

Posted: 08 Jan 2025, 16:46
by twoleftfeet
I’m going to give him until 5 minutes after his first training session before I cսnt him off and call for his head.