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Manchester Airport incident
"We're gonna have a British George Floyd now innit. The BLM mob are gonna be all over this. Expect a load of shoe shops to be looted as a ""protest"". This country's gone to the fucking dogs."
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Leonard Hatred 3:19 Wed Aug 7 Really. He must have BROKEN THE LAW. What did he do?
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"""I'm popping over to Walthamstow this evening to have a few beers"". Not just the country going to the dogs, then."
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"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/08/06/pro-palestine-activists-storm-israeli-arms-companys-uk-hq/ What's the betting this gets the ""Softly, Softly"" justice treatment?"
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"Leonard Hatred 3:19 Wed Aug 7 The plan is clearly an attempt to scare these people into submission through incarceration. Trouble is, it's well documented that there already wasn't enough prison space to accommodate those convicted before the events that followed Southport, so where are they planning to put the extra tranche of criminals about to be created over the next couple of weeks?"
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The first rioter conviction; Derek Drummond from Southport has been sentenced to THREE YEARS in chokey. FMOB
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"Stewie, I have stated previously on this thread that many fundamentalist Muslims have no desire to integrate. Their ultimate aim is to overthrow Western, secular/ Christian nations and turn all of Europe into a caliphate of Islam. This is the existential threat facing all of Europe and the rest of the 'global North'."
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"Fauxstralian 1:31 Wed Aug 7 Re: Manchester Airport incident Its not a Tory or Labour thing. It's a globalist thing. Johnson and Truss were off message, so they were never going to last long. Corbyn likewise as Labour leader. All have been ousted for a variety of mostly trumped up reasons invented by the media that endorses the WEF agenda. Blair, Cameron, Sunak, Starmer ""ì identical. No difference between any of them. To your broader commentary ""ì I think it's a huge mistake to talk in terms of immigration, and fuels the likes of Farage in the narrative they want to spin. It's about integration far more than its about immigration. I don't think there's too many ""ì even the ""òfar right' rioters ""ì who particularly give a shit about the Chinese, Japanese, most Europeans, even LOLstralians and countless others. There are vast swathes of the country where there has been no trouble at all. Are there no immigrants in these places? There's plenty, but they're integrated immigrants that are part of a singular local community. What's happened in other places ""ì places where there are problems - is more Jim Crow than anything progressive. You've had massive numbers of people ""ì many with belief systems that are wholly incompatible with our way of life ""ì dumped into areas and allowed to create a sub-community with dividing lines drawn between them and those that live there. Its almost unbelievably backwards and should never have been allowed to happen. Who would have thought that segregation along racial/ethnic/religious/cultural lines might end badly? Its not like there's 100s of years of history to prove how shit it is. But, they key point there is this, there ARE pieces of cultures and belief systems that are completely incompatible. Multiculturalism is an abject failure, by any measure. It always has been, since the dawn of time."
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"Come On You Irons 2:03 Wed Aug 7 I doubt if it's even that complex. The elite have watched as wealth has flowed out of where it belongs (their bank accounts and their bank accounts only) and into the ownership/control of the irresponsible lower classes/castes. This may simply be seen as another opportunity (like COVID before) to redress the balance and reverse the flow. A population ignorant of the last 2,000 years that shaped Western societies is much, much easier to control, too. And if anyone on here believes that they are one of those elites, then their head needs a damn good wobble. only1billybonds 1:40 Wed Aug 7 In mainland Europe, migration was a natural (normal) process as borders only really appeared when European nations were created, and even then, so long as the migrants contributed to society wherever they were, were more readily accepted. Migration to the UK required the deliberate extra effort of crossing a less than friendly body of open water. In many cases, it apparently still does. The USA, Australia and Canada are basically nations built on immigration (on account of them decimating the indigenous populations in their respective lands)."
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It is quite clearly a globalist 'colour blind' agenda to destroy the ethnic homogeneity of all white majority nations. It simply cannot be denied. The soft immigration policies to all white majority nations is clearly designed to turn them all into 'rainbow nations'. The globalist elites probably justify this to themselves as a 'pay back' for the white European imperialism from previous centuries.
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"COYI It isn't just here, much of mainland Europe, Canada and parts of Australia have seen a massive influx of 'newcomers' the past 15 years or so. I'm no conspiracy theorist but this can't be a coincidence, you have to start to wonder if all this is part of agenda 2030?"
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It is inescapable that the levels of legal and especially illegal immigration to this country are too high after 14 years of the Tories Labours manifesto promised to decrease both As said earlier the illegals are a difficult problem to solve Its telling that Starmer is being abused for not sorting it in a month He should be held to and challenged on that commitment Where were all these handwringers and brick throwers over the last 14 years? Voting Tory and cheering when 4 people got sent to Rwanda at a cost of £700m.
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"""The white British population is in demographic decline. They are not having enough children, while immigrants and ethnic minorities have lots of children. Combined with mass immigration of 600,000-700,000 a year, most British cities now look unrecognisable. White Britons are already a minority in London and other major cities and will become a minority in the country itself within our lifetimes. It's important to understand that Britain isn't like America. Until very, very recently (2001) white British people made up nearly 90% of the population. Britain is not and has never been a ""nation of immigrants"". But it will be soon. Despite the fact that the British people voted against this at every opportunity. They voted against it in 2010, 2015, 2016 (Brexit), 2017 and 2019 when the people they elected promised to stop mass immigration and end illegal immigration. At the last election, they gave up on voting for the Conservatives and either voted for Nigel Farage's anti-immigration Reform Party or didn't vote at all, hence the lowest turnout for a century. This is one of the reasons you see increasing levels of censorship and thought policing in the UK. As people begin to express dissent against what is happening, maintaining this state of affairs requires more and more suppression. This is one of the reasons they are going after @elonmusk - he has created a platform where we can see that the Emperor is naked with our own eyes."" __ Well put stewie. I would also add that many white British working/ middle class folk have been put off from having children due to the conditions caused by 27 years and counting on mass, uncontrolled immigration policies. That is, policies that ramp up the population (a population explosion that Farage talks about and cannot be denied) without the sufficient investment in housing stock and infrastructure to go with it, meaning house prices have increased massively as demand outstrips supply, and wages has been suppressed as cheap foreign labour suppresses natural wage growth. Meanwhile, immigrants from certain backgrounds (South Asian Muslim, sub-saharan African) exploit the system, live in social housing and have multiple children usually paid for by the taxes of taxpayers (which Labour will soon be ramping up to even higher levels). Is it any wonder many white Brits have given up on the idea of home ownership and raising families. And is it any wonder folk are left to believe 27 years and counting of mass, uncontrolled immigration policies is a deliberate, globalist agenda to change the demographics of the UK forever. It is truly a travesty and a tragedy what the 'elites' are inflicting on the country."
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"See Thickle making his usual excuses for the sickening behaviour of the grooming gangs,just as bad as goose with the peado priests of the Vatican"
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"Watch this Guy drove from Harlow to Middlesbrough because of the blacks and browns, fantastically taken down by Tom Swarbrick https://youtu.be/0q_2VNTUjbk?si=_pbiihY0MFlVd_Ya"
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"Mike, the vast majority of people causing these riots are ignorant thugs that have zero clue about anything. Thick idiots that get caught up in the moment"
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"I've been a long time reader/listener to both Murray and KK for a few years now and Griff is right, they, especially Murray predicted years ago that we would get to where we are today, and beyond. Thing is, if these two saw it coming then plenty of government ministers,senior civil servants and cabinet members must also have known where we were heading. What's gone on in the past couple of decades is a betrayal of the British people, especially the working class. We are where we are, there is no desire to address and improve things from either of the main parties and all we'll see is more of the recent disturbances and the difference in how people are policed according to their ethnicity."
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stewie griffin 11:51 Wed Aug 7 Not sure if I should be worried about what Kisin has said; my post of 11:55 had been sat on my computer for about 2/3 days on account of the site's comms issues. Won't be long before some twat tries to label me as far-right for having the audacity to consider/suggest a different approach to the problem or that what is being presented as the problem is not even close to the true problem..
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"The UK public - at least those who could be arsed to vote on their concerns - have clearly expressed those concerns over 3 general elections based on what was published in party manifestos and after each of those 3 votes (4 if you roll in the EU referendum) the concerns have simply been ""back-burnered"" or even publicly ignored/sneered at. How many more times does this need to happen before the penny drops and you realise the route through the ballot box is clearly not the route to the changes being sought? I don't condone this violence mainly because, it seems to me, the demonstrators are attacking the immigrants here that are actually making an effort to be a positive contribution to the UK - for that alone they rightly deserve being labelled ""Thick"", whatever ""wing"" people need them to belong to. I actually don't condone the use of any violence in modern society to achieve change, to be honest - that is the quickest path to a ""Survival of the Thickest"" society. So, what is the solution? Seems that the democracy we have offers no alternative...except that those empowered with the stewardship of the - MY - country actually fully take on board and resolve the fundamental concern issues that got them into power. If THEY steadfastly and repeatedly refuse - or are not allowed - to do that, then they, themselves are inviting the public to seek out a more dramatic path to getting those concerns addressed."
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"I answered your initial calm and reasoned question. You then got hysterical and quoted a string of examples that your chosen media sources have fed you. But, you asked, and you shall receive - see below Kisin's most recent thoughts. As ever, pretty calm and measured. Let me know when you're done reading - as I have some questions for you. The right wing cope for what's happening in Britain is to go on about Keir Starmer. The left wing cope for what's happening is to blame the ""far right"". The reality is much, much worse. This has nothing to do with the current government and a few racist idiots kicking off are the least of our worries. Yes, the violent criminals should be prosecuted and given harsh sentences. And yes, Starmer and senior police officers have handled this badly. But the fundamentals of this situation are inescapable. Britain has a stagnant economy that relies on cheap foreign labour and a population that is utterly fed up of mass immigration. We have an open border. No that's not an exaggeration. When I came to Britain in 1996, net *legal* immigration was around 55k a year. That's the number of people who come here *illegally* every year now. We have a Muslim population, which like any large group is made up of all sorts of people. Most of them are decent and law abiding. But as a population the Muslim community has not integrated: more British Muslims joined ISIS and Al Nusra than the British army, per the Guardian and the New York Times. Google it. The Equalities Act introduced ""protected characteristics"" which effectively made members of certain racial, ethnic and religious groups entitled to special treatment. Partly as a result of this and partly due to the broader introduction of the idea of ""diversity and inclusion"", the police, social workers and all manner of government officials turned a blind eye to crimes committed by particular racial and ethnic groups. A good example would be so-called ""grooming gangs"" which are groups comprised of predominantly Pakistani and Bangladeshi men who targeted white and Sikh girls for gang rape. According to estimates there were several hundred thousand victims. These crimes have gone on for over 40 and continue to happen today. The white British population is in demographic decline. They are not having enough children, while immigrants and ethnic minorities have lots of children. Combined with mass immigration of 600,000-700,000 a year, most British cities now look unrecognisable. White Britons are already a minority in London and other major cities and will become a minority in the country itself within our lifetimes. It's important to understand that Britain isn't like America. Until very, very recently (2001) white British people made up nearly 90% of the population. Britain is not and has never been a ""nation of immigrants"". But it will be soon. Despite the fact that the British people voted against this at every opportunity. They voted against it in 2010, 2015, 2016 (Brexit), 2017 and 2019 when the people they elected promised to stop mass immigration and end illegal immigration. At the last election, they gave up on voting for the Conservatives and either voted for Nigel Farage's anti-immigration Reform Party or didn't vote at all, hence the lowest turnout for a century. This is one of the reasons you see increasing levels of censorship and thought policing in the UK. As people begin to express dissent against what is happening, maintaining this state of affairs requires more and more suppression. This is one of the reasons they are going after @elonmusk - he has created a platform where we can see that the Emperor is naked with our own eyes. The riots you are seeing have many underlying causes. Many of the people who are burning things down and looting shops are just violent thugs looking for a cheap thrill. The authorities will throw the book at them which they have to do. But what they won't do is address the cause of the tensions which are bubbling away under the surface. They will give the can another big kick down the road. I hope this particular flare up of violence can be calmed but you're kidding yourself if you think that will be the end of it."
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"Yeah he's got some neck preaching to us as to where to put or not to put the dinghy people where his so called adopted country, routinely plants their dinghy people on Christmas Island or some such island."
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"that's a very strange pivot to go from this: ""Any valid points that the protestors have are being lost in the maelsrom of attacks on mosques (that is an attack on ALL Muslims ) , attacking police and property, looting shops and trying to burn down an occupied hotel Have said before there is no voice explaining the issues .... just cunts like WEIRD Elon Musk yapping from the other side of the world"" to that post. Are you mentally unhinged?"
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"Perhaps you can quote one of your voices on why mosques are being attacked, shops looted and occupied hotels set on fire Or an intellectual justification for Nazi salutes in Whitehall"