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"Free agency started last night and was pretty crazy some huge money being spent. Osweiler getting £18m a year for the Texans, leaving the Broncos without a QB, Giants have spent a fortune on good but not great players, Oliver Vernon has more guaranteed money than JJ Watt. lots more deals but cant be bothered to list them all."

"Guess its treated similar to when a QB slides, once he's giving himself up his forward progress is stopped and the play is dead. I do remember seeing Larry Fitzgerald catching a pass and sliding forward while giving the time out signal but generally the Head coach will probably be stood right in an official's ear to scream time out as soon as he's down."

"Ok, I didn't realise they could do that. Does he have to signal it or do the officials just guess based on the game situation?"

"Hermit They had the timeout so once Ginn put himself down, the play could be ended."

"He essentially fell down and gave himself up ending the play as soon as possible so the saints could quickly call the last time out, he wasnt going to get up"

"That New Orleans game was incredible. Here's what I don't understand though. In the second to last play where the receiver makes the catch, why did the defender touch him when he was down? Wouldn't he have been better off letting him get up and using 2 seconds before touching him?"

"Promised myself I would get some work done and then far forward through the recording I did of Saints Texans game. Great last moments are probably on the internet somewhere. Watson has certainly improved since the last time I saw him and so far the Saints secondary has not, I worry about Brees more than most apparently but absolute masterclass in taking exactly what they gave and clock management on the last mini drive. (The soft zone on the second last play was huge mistake for the Texans though, with Lutz's leg) Can't wait for Rankins to get back and those not so kids in the secondary to find their first season form. Still love Taysom Hill."

"I dont think Gordon is a typical ""cսnt"" he's had some pretty serious substance abuse issues and maybe mental health problems but i think he seems to be a pretty decent guy when he's got his head right, seems to be why Goodell and the league keep giving him so many chances"

"Josh Gordon may be a cսnt, playing for a team of cunts, coached and owned by cunts, but he was 14/1 for 1st TD last night which I ripped skybet arms off for, as before brown starts playing and with Brady always liking a quick early strike with a receiver, just seemed obvious. Shame I'll have given half of it back after tonight's games!! Thomas for the saints at 8/1 and Sanders for the Broncos at 10/1."

"I presume that this thread is conducted in Yankglish, but it's mostly fucking gibberish to my ears. Can't someone block this septic garbage?"

"They dont really have a tightend of note currently, ben watson will be back in week 5 after he got popped taking a PED after he'd already announced his retirement Although i wouldnt be surprised if they persuade Gronk to come back later on in the season if he starts getting the itch to play again. Antonio Brown, Josh Gordon, Edelman, Gronk and james white out of the backfield is insane. Dorsett who scored twice last night will hardly see the field"

Just imagine if they get Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon as twin deep threats and Edelman and White carving up the middle. Their new TE has barely got a sniff yet either.

Just seen on witter the opening spread for the Patriots @ dolphins (-26.5) is the highest spread since 1970

"Looking already like its setting up for a Chiefs Patriots rematch as the class of the AFC, although the child beater disloacated his shoulder i believe and will miss about a month."

southbankbornnbred 4:21 Mon Sep 9 It could be a cricket score against the Dolphins.

"Crystal - I thought that Patriots defense looked ominously good at the weekend. Yet another well-organised, suffocating Belichick defense. Everybody in the AFC East is going to have to up their game, or hope that Brady gets a knock, to put a stop to the run of divisional wins. Unfortunately!"

"Cough - yep, Tom Tupa. I remember it well. Opening day of the season, great head coach (Parcells), brilliant young DC (Belichick), two great wide receivers (Johnson and Chrebet) and a veteran, reliable QB who had improved with age (Vinny). We all thought: this is it, we're going to the superbowl. First or second quarter (can't remember which) of the opening game. We're ahead. Vinny snaps his achilles or calf - some kind of bad injury. So he's out for the season. We only had one back up QB, who was rubbish and a part-time punter who used to be a QB at high school. The part-time punter threw two touchdowns! Tom Tupa. New York Jets legend without ever having achieved much. Bit like Jack Leach in English cricket! Btw - the Jets were typical Jets yesterday. After all the hype of pre-season, all the planning, all the changes etc. They blow a 16-0 lead to lose 17-16 to the fucking Bills. Same old same old."

"I know i was excitred about the Patriot's defence this year but not even i was expecting a performance as dominant as that! completely shut the Steelers down all game barring one big play down the sideline. Josh Gordon looks better than i was expecting, Edelman showing no ill effects after breaking his hand not long ago, Antonio Brown to be added next week, pray for the Dolphins in week 2"

"I'm happy with the result, but not happy with the amount of times I watched the us getting the Bucs to 3rd down only for them to chuck it away with a penalty."

"Very happy with Niners result, defence and second half generally. Was nervous for injuries, but now expecting 2-0. Disappointed Hawks scraped over the line by a point, Rams by just three and Cards somehow got a tie, but you can't have everything."

"Here's one for southbank, do you remember when Vinny got injured and your punter had to go on as QB?"

"I know it happens and I haven't watched the video yet, but I'd hazard a guess that the worst of it will be in the championship game against the Seahawks, where the officials were frankly a disgrace and didn't even hide their bias. Especially when Bowman intercepted and done his knee in. That was grim!"

Decent win for the Vikes

......and in that video you see continual evidence of cheating by officials

"Cheers TK, he was a legend."

"grumps, decent video here about the harbaugh era at the niners, well worth a look https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MffCiJrPjgQ"