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Dispatches tonight could be about him so he has jumped in first dismissing claims and rumours and saying anything he did in past was consensual. No doubt it will be said that this is The Matrix coming after him due to his opposition to mainstream media.

Met Police received fresh allegation refering to 2003 a different year from those so far reported So someone aware of the documentary which was from 2006 has come forward. Could be pretty serious now.

"BRANDED 5:35 Mon Sep 18 I've had - but not in the biblical sense many posters would want to be the point-scoring case - 3 daughters who have all turned 16 whilst in my care/my responsibility. By that age I would hope that they knew enough to be aware of the dangers they would encounter entering the adult world. I could only take them so far on the journey from childhood to adulthood and at no time did I ever feel that I ""owned"" them, that they were ""my property"" - YOU may feel otherwise (but don't try to feel me). That being said, were they to ask my opinion on any relationship they were in/considering entering, I would freely offer that advice - but it would still be their choice; there has to be a point in everybody's life where they get that self-same freedom. I've had them (all) come back to me after ""failed"" relationships and we've sat and talked it through, adult to adult as well as father to daughter (the two are not mutually exclusive). They've all turned out well - youngest has just got her Masters degree."

stewie griffin 5:09 Mon Sep 18 I mean I’m FLABBERGASTED! How could it happen?

"When Tom Daley was a teenager getting prodded by a man 20 years older, the MSM thought it was wonderful"

Our Victorian Protestant morals are generally all over the place in terms of sex.

"""Female stand-ups have set up WhatsApp group to warn one another about at least FIVE more sexual predators"""

"""If you had a 16 year old daughter, and she was getting fucked"" I think you might want to stop there for most fathers? That said I know all manner of parents who are pretty progressive in their thinking on this and merely look for safety, caring and love for their daughters. At some point most daughters are going to be fucked."

"i just don't buy that people actually believe most of what they're writing here. If you had a 16 year old daughter, and she was getting fucked by a 30-year old (who, incidentally in this case was named shagger of the year three times), I'm pretty sure you'd have a problem with it. Of course, there's a reasonable discussion as to whether its actually newsworthy, or whether he's being targeted because of his views - but the need for some kind of binary position on this is just weird. Its possible he's both a wrong 'un AND subject to a fit-up. Its also possible that neither are true."

"And what about that footballer (Sunderland) who got cancelled on account of his relationship with an under-age girl, or that teacher who fucked off to France with one of his pupils? Strange, in this age of equality, that those are the only sort of relationships that hit the headlines (for us to remember later). If the feminine side of humanity want true equality, that shortfall in reporting ""unsavoury"" older woman/younger man relationships needs to be addressed and reported with equal vim/vigour/spin."

PwoperNaughtyButNot ... Sol Campbell and Theo Walcott....

PwoperNaughtyButNot ... Sol Campbell and Theo Walcott....

"what does that mean, pickle son?"

"""Alice"" has admitted she had a few ""sleezy"" relationships after Brand. The easy thing would be to blame Brand for that happening to her, I suppose."

Or when 31 year old John Taylor started dating 16 year old Amanda De Cadenet Or when 42 year old Sam Taylor started dating 18 year old Aaron Johnson (whom she had known as a family friend for years and was directing him and in a position of power) The media are going to have to start answering a lot of questions about themselves and how they react to those they like and those they don’t. Where is Huw Edwards btw?

"These things always remind me of when the sunday sport were advertising Lindsey dawn Mckenzie 15 at the time , as they put it getting them out on her Birthday . The world has definitely changed imagine that now , wow."

If “No”. Means “No” Then Brand should have listened to Bill Burr. Because he hit the nail on the head with that argument.!

OMG - what the fuck is Lauren Harries?

"There's an addition thing to consider with the Andrew allegations. Whilst the ago of consent in Florida is 18, he isn't alleged to have shagged her in Florida. He's alleged to have shagged her in the UK and the Caribbean when she was 17. That's legal. Clearly, he is still a scum-bag. But also, maybe she's a well-briefed whore."

"As others have said, one was trafficked and paid for prostitution and had no say in who she fucked and the other one fucked RB willingly, almost certainly stalked HIM and went back to him repeatedly over the course of months. Are you really that dim?"

"I think the issue is that Andrew's girl(s) were trafficked and knew they were there to do a job. I doubt that any of them were asked to produce an ID verifying their age. I suppose Andrew could have cut her head off and counted the rings in her neck to make sure it was OK before moving onto the foreplay. It appears that Brand's girls he simply pulled and they had every opportunity to make ""No!"" mean ""No!"" by leaving before it ""got too far"". People need to cut out the ""innocent little girl"" shit here. Can't nail Brand for the fact that they chose to stay to let what happened, happen."

"The difference is, so far, the 17 year old cost around £12 mill. Of course in this new case it could be a lot worse."

"Pretty straightforward, really, Hermit - as you know full well. It's about what is legal in a particular state or country at any one point in time. Some states/countries it is 16 and others it is 17 etc. People can wang on about what should, or shouldn't, be the age of consent. That's fine, that's a debate. It's often a circular debate, but it's a debate. But it is not unusual for the law in one country to be different to the law in another country. The point, surely, is to act within the law wherever you are? Andrew is alleged to have slept with Guiffre when she was 17, which is below the legal age of consent in Florida. I have no idea whether he did or did not. He denies it, obviously. Brand is alleged to have slept with ""Alice"" when she was 16 - above the age of consent in the UK, and therefore not illegal. Creepy, given Brand's age - but not illegal. It's really not a difficult concept to follow, but you do know this..."

"I cannot work out the mindset that is ok with one man shagging a 16 yr old because you like him (RB), and another being a pedo for shagging a 17 yr old because you don't like him (Andrew). People are fucking weird. Not as weird and noncey as grown men having sex with schoolgirls though regardless of what the law says"

"...but, as my old man used to say, some of them DO think that they sit on a gold mine"

Mike Oxsaw 2:17 Mon Sep 18 Re: Russell Brand and his best (but very gay) mate was the sound engineer falls off chair