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Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 07 Oct 2023, 13:24
by claret on my shirt
"Or should i say they are attacking to get THEIR land back. Good luck to them. The World will watch and do nothing to help them as they always do, shame on us."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 13:00
by The Fonz
"Rumford - agreed. But Hamas and all of the other Palestinian leaders going back to their first one in Arafat have rejected offers for a two state solution. There has been multiple offers on the table and the Palestinian leaders have rejected it or not given an answer every single time. This rejection of two states didn't start with Hamas. It may be because the Palestinian leadership and possibly majority of people reject Israels right to exist, which is what i believe and the Hamas leader says in the clip i copied and pasted below. This means this problem will not go away in the near future."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 12:32
by rumford
Ithink most observers are of the opinion that a two state solution is the answer despite what Netanyahu says but he won't be around forever. The other problem is that Hamas don't seem interested in that solution either irrespective of some Palistinians.
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 12:28
by Hammer and Pickle
*far-right nutjob
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 12:21
by Hammer and Pickle
"I think the far light nutjob Putin will continue to sign bullshit decrees to posture as a defender of the Russian people while the nutjob Trump will carry on being his grotesque little poodle. Don’t tell me what you think, Twundle. There really is no point."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 12:21
by Hammer and Pickle
"I think the far light nutjob Putin will continue to sign bullshit decrees to posture as a defender of the Russian people while the nutjob Trump will carry on being his grotesque little poodle. Don’t tell me what you think, Twundle. There really is no point."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 12:03
by Lee Trundle
"When can we expect Russia to take over Alaska which you suggested would happen, Hamas & Pickled? I just want to pop the date in the diary."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 11:58
by The Fonz
Yep... just stupid
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 11:51
by Hammer and Pickle
"And I worded my post very carefully as well. Despite that, the latest far-right nutjob prick is now attacking a straw man, insinuating I had made the mistake of claiming the ICJ had denied Israel the right to defend itself. When all the ICJ has done is told the nutjobs in power in Tel Aviv to stop fucking killing innocent civilians as they pursue this war. Amazing."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 11:47
by The Fonz
I don't think your mental like Solid or Texas... just stupid.
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 11:39
by The Fonz
The ICJ did not order Israel to stop the war because an order of that kind would not have been effective. Didn't stop them telling Russia to stop in Ukraine did it? But no Hamas and Pickle knows exactly what they meant! Agagagag It ordered Israel to prevent a genocide not stop one. You fucking cretin.
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 11:35
by RootsRadical
"Made up nonsense Pickle. The ICJ worded it's statement very carefully to avoid any confusion or deliberate misinterpretation from people like you. It has not accused Israel of Genocide, it has reminded of it's responsibility to prevent it and given one month for Israel to show its evidence that it has been, which wont be an issue for Israel. They did not order a ceasefire because they recognised Israeli's right to defend itself."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 11:06
by Hammer and Pickle
"The ICJ did not order Israel to stop the war because an order of that kind would not have been effective. Neither did it do so because the ICJ did not believe Israel was committing genocide in Gaza. The ICJ was not wasting its time either and wasn’t letting itself get distracted by what the other bad guy was doing or what the other bad guy says it wants to do. No, the ICJ has ordered Israel to stop the genocide and Netanyahu has thrown a fit about it, further casting a shadow of infamy over the whole country. You’ve got to be stupid and mental not to get these simple things and yes, there are a few on here who are exactly that - stupid and mental."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 10:52
by Mike Oxsaw
"I'm surprised that Disney hasn't been commissioned to terraform a part of the American desert into a new version of Israel. Seems win-win to me. The New Promised Land will be surrounded on all sides by it's best mate and they can ship over all the sacred and important bits from the existing Israel during the build, leaving the original area exactly as it was pre-1948. The people can then move over in the same manner that was used to populate the New Towns/Garden Cities in the UK after World War 2."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 10:27
by Texas Iron
ICJ… Plausible genocide by Israel… Warned to behave in Gaza … re Genocide statute… Indeed…
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 09:50
by The Fonz
"Solid and Texas Thanks for clarifying Hamas's intentions on the 7 October. If Israel was committing a genocide the ICJ would have ordered the war to stop. As for a two state solution, Netanyahu said he doesn't support one at this point in time but before 7 October he did support this (look at the deal that was presented and rejected by the palestinian leadership under Trumps administration). Whereas the leader of your freedom fighters has said they always reject it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULjTL9IYwkQ"
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 02:54
by solidbond
Genocide : The deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. The baby butcher doesn’t want a two state solution which is basically him wanting a Palestinian free Gaza which in turn is calling for the deaths of all Palestinians.
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 02:47
by rumford
*destablized
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 02:13
by Texas Iron
"Article II of the Convention defines genocide as: ... any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group"
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 01:49
by The Fonz
"According to Tex 'Israel has full modern state of art High Tech War Machine…Air…Land…Sea,,,' So Israel is very high tech but clearly terrible at the genocide Tex accuses it of given the population growth and amount of civilians who have died compared to Hamas operatives so far in this conflict. Also Israel can't even kill 1 palestinian for every bomb they have dropped in Gaza so far... quite a feat given it is a very dense area of the world and the civilians are used as human sheilds Israel also had 75 years to get the genocide they are accused of right at some point. It's like they are trying their best to not kill civilians? Roots radical - spot on"
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 00:51
by rumford
*distablised
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 28 Jan 2024, 00:46
by rumford
Egypt don't trust Hamas nor do Jordan and whilst Syria have ties with them they haven't forgotten that Hamas backed the opposition in the Syrian civil war. They've distabled the region for years.
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 27 Jan 2024, 22:41
by RootsRadical
"The Palestinian population has grown x 10 since 1948 which is an abnormally high growth rate. The ICJ did not order a ceasefire or accuse Israel of genocide, it asked them to prevent genocide not to stop it. Of the 25k reportedly killed by the Hamas Health ministry, nobody is considering how many of those killed are Hamas operatives, and that Hamas classifies it's youth members (16 & 17 year olds) as ""children"" Hamas also bases itself amongst civilians and has been encouraging them, sometimes forcibly to stay, as it wants a high civilian death toll. There are reports of civilians leaving being fired at and shot. Israel claimed about a month ago that it had killed 9k Hamas. Israel has also warned civilians of attacks and asked them to leave, there is plenty of evidence of this freely available."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 27 Jan 2024, 21:57
by Texas Iron
Blame Balfour... Most Jews left ...then Zionists were appeased by setting up Israel...kicking out Palestinians...
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 27 Jan 2024, 21:48
by riosleftsock
"""israel has been committing ""plausible genocide in Palestine for 75 years"" (sic). What happened to the population size in Gaza and WB in the last 75 years? This must provide absolute concrete evidence."
Re: Hamas attack Israel
Posted: 27 Jan 2024, 21:40
by Mike Oxsaw
"Texas Iron 8:55 Sat Jan 27 Any of that down to the fact that Israel's next-door-neighbours and a few other states have vowed to wipe Israel and every single Jew off the face of the planet? Ever considered by dropping that stance, places like Gaza and the West Bank might be able to help themselves prosper - with Israel's help?"